Granderson to the Yankees

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Granderson to the Yankees 

Post#1 » by TyCobb » Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:13 pm

Yanks: Granderson,
Dbacks: I Kennedy, E. Jackson
Tigers: Scherzer, Schlereth, A Jax., Coke.
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Re: Granderson to the Yankees 

Post#2 » by Wade2k6 » Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:16 pm

I like it for New York. They give up a bit to get Granderson, but they get a upgrade in Centerfield.
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Post#3 » by Celtics_Champs » Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:07 pm

Hmm. It's good for the yankees, but I feel they gave up too much.

Then again, I don't have a good grasp on the yankees prospects.
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Post#4 » by slaterbug » Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:23 pm

Good deal for the Yankees & Tigers I feel. I don't think the D'Backs did so good.
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Post#5 » by Schad » Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:38 pm

Great deal for Detroit, and a solid deal for the Yankees, but Arizona is going to regret this, IMO.
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Post#6 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Dec 8, 2009 9:20 pm

Think the Yankees gave up too much
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Post#7 » by Liqourish » Tue Dec 8, 2009 9:33 pm

There are heartbroken Tigers fans all over Detroit right now. What the Tigers are getting back is okay, but none of them have anything on Grandy.

This is what happens when you pay Magglio Ordonez $18 million, Jeremy Bonderman $12.5 million, Dontrelle Willis and Carlos Guillen $10 million a piece and Nate Robertson $7 million.
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Post#8 » by SportsWorld » Tue Dec 8, 2009 9:34 pm

Arizona got robbed.

Great deal for Detroit.
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Post#9 » by cold5 » Tue Dec 8, 2009 9:57 pm

Yeah tigers got a hell of lot for those two. Yankees could get some production out of Granderson but I don't get why they couldn't wait for Jackson. Jackson, Coke, and Kennedy's a bit much for Granderson. Real hit or miss for D-Backs
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Re: Granderson to the Yankees 

Post#10 » by Schad » Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:06 pm

Liqourish wrote:There are heartbroken Tigers fans all over Detroit right now. What the Tigers are getting back is okay, but none of them have anything on Grandy.


I dunno. Your bullpen was a major failing, and Coke/Schlereth will be very solid 7th/8th inning guys for years to come. Scherzer's home runs will drop in Comerica, and he's should be a fine #3, at worst. And I'm not as high on Jackson as many are, but he'll be a fine leadoff bat for the next six years. I don't think that you could have realistically done any better.
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Post#11 » by Liqourish » Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:09 pm

It's not so much that we didn't get good value for Edwin/Curtis. The problem is, Dombrowski had to move them because of the inflated contracts he gave to other players who are severely underperforming. It's heartbreaking really.
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Re: Granderson to the Yankees 

Post#12 » by Schad » Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:18 pm

Liqourish wrote:It's not so much that we didn't get good value for Edwin/Curtis. The problem is, Dombrowski had to move them because of the inflated contracts he gave to other players who are severely underperforming. It's heartbreaking really.


Yeah, but I think that the Tigers are a better -- and cheaper -- team after this trade. Edwin Jackson is likely to implode, and while Granderson is good, I don't think that he's irreplaceable.
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Post#13 » by Celtics_Champs » Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:21 pm

Sooo are the sox gonna retaliate here? Oh wait, they got marco scutaro. :(
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Re: Granderson to the Yankees 

Post#14 » by Schad » Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:24 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:Sooo are the sox gonna retaliate here? Oh wait, they got marco scutaro. :(


You need to counter with a bold move for a center fielder who, like Granderson, can both hit home runs and steal bases. That's right: you need to trade for Vernon Wells.
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Post#15 » by VinnyTheMick » Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:41 pm

I don't like giving up all of that for Curtis but the more I think about it I like it. If Slade Heathcott ends up being what the Yankees think he will be then losing AJax won't matter. Girardi lost trust in Coke & IPK wasn't going to be in an AL East rotation.

That being said, I'm a little worried because the Yankees could have used some of the players traded in a bigger trade (Halladay). I like it though, first legit center fielder since my favorite player of all time, Bernie Williams.
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Post#16 » by HCYanks » Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:48 pm

Trying to spread your contract herpes isn't very nice, Schad.

I like this deal for the Yanks, so long as they have the expectation that Grandy will still play CF and won't let Damon and Matsui both walk over this. Gardner doesn't have much of a major league sample size going but it seems like he can hit lefties alright so either start him against LHP or find a backup who can hit lefties.

Personally I have no expectation that Jackson will ever be as good as Granderson but he should be a solid leadoff guy so long as they let him stay in the minors a little longer and work out his strikeout problems. And beyond that Scherzer is awesome and D'Backs are retards for being so eager to pull the trigger on this. Edwin Jackson is just as likely to fall to pieces as he is to put it all together.
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Re: Granderson to the Yankees 

Post#17 » by HeroicKennedy » Tue Dec 8, 2009 11:53 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Liqourish wrote:It's not so much that we didn't get good value for Edwin/Curtis. The problem is, Dombrowski had to move them because of the inflated contracts he gave to other players who are severely underperforming. It's heartbreaking really.


Yeah, but I think that the Tigers are a better -- and cheaper -- team after this trade. Edwin Jackson is likely to implode, and while Granderson is good, I don't think that he's irreplaceable.

He is, however, a huge fan favorite and a lot of regular Tiger fans are reacting negatively to this. This is going to drop ticket sales significantly, as Granderson is one of the most popular Tigers ever.
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Re: Granderson to the Yankees 

Post#18 » by Schad » Wed Dec 9, 2009 3:35 am

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Schadenfreude wrote:
Liqourish wrote:It's not so much that we didn't get good value for Edwin/Curtis. The problem is, Dombrowski had to move them because of the inflated contracts he gave to other players who are severely underperforming. It's heartbreaking really.


Yeah, but I think that the Tigers are a better -- and cheaper -- team after this trade. Edwin Jackson is likely to implode, and while Granderson is good, I don't think that he's irreplaceable.

He is, however, a huge fan favorite and a lot of regular Tiger fans are reacting negatively to this. This is going to drop ticket sales significantly, as Granderson is one of the most popular Tigers ever.


Fan reaction rarely lasts past late-May, luckily...if you're fighting for a playoff spot for the duration of the year (and I'd say that you have an excellent chance of winning the AL Central, even after this trade), you'll draw crowds.
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Re: Granderson to the Yankees 

Post#19 » by HeroicKennedy » Wed Dec 9, 2009 10:37 am

Schadenfreude wrote:Fan reaction rarely lasts past late-May, luckily...if you're fighting for a playoff spot for the duration of the year (and I'd say that you have an excellent chance of winning the AL Central, even after this trade), you'll draw crowds.

We were doing that this year, and we still have lower attendance than the previous year (when we went 74-88). Detroit needs a draw, and Granderson was their biggest one. It's no different than the drop in attendance when Ben Wallace left. The team still competed at a high level, yet you could tell it wasn't selling out games like before.
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Post#20 » by sunshinekids99 » Wed Dec 9, 2009 10:57 am

I'm not a huge fan of the deal for the Yankees. I'm not a big Granderson fan at all, I think he's quite overrated. Defensively of course the Yankees get a big upgrade just by not having to use Damon in left field. Of course in that park Granderson might hit 40 homeruns next year making this all moot.

I like the deal for Detroit. They moved a lot of money, it is too bad they couldn't have included someone like Nate Robinson to get a bit more money off the books. They improved their shaking pen, got a quality starter, and a centerfielder for the future.

As for the Dbacks I have no clue what they are thinking. I think it's a horrible move for them and I thought I read that they were the team really pushing for this deal to happen.
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