Lakers H/A to start the season last 5 years

bigal534 · Post #1 » by **bigal534** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:19 pm

were all taking about how bad the schedule the NBA has made seemingly every year to be in the lakers favor. Here's a quick look at what the situation has been over the last 5 years:

LA
09/10: 21 games: 17 home 4 away
08/09: 44 games: 27 home 17 away
07/08: 43 ganes: 24 home 19 away
06/07: 20 games: 15 home 5 away
05/06: 30 games: 14 home 16 away
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Total: 158 games: 97 home 61 away

BOSTON
09/10: 21 games: 11 home 10 away
08/09: 44 games: 23 home 21 away
07/08: 43 games: 23 home 20 away
06/07: 20 games: 11 home 9 away
05/06: 30 games: 15 home 15 away
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Total: 158 games: 83 home 75 away

Has it seemed drastic? yea... especially this year, but the Lakers dont make their schedule (we dont think :wink:

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bigal534 · Post #2 » by **bigal534** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:24 pm

my only other comment would be that everything evens out after 82 games, but having a team get comfortable and in a rhythm to start the season at home is something the Lakers seem to get a chance to do more than not.

EJay33 · Post #3 » by **EJay33** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:32 pm

All this griping about LA having too many home games to start the season has to stop. At the end of the season, if LA wins the championship is anyone really going to say "Gee, if only Boston had 17 of their first 21 games at home to get in sync then this year would've ended differently."

LA is a good team and they'll finish with the #1 seed out West and probably the #1 seed overall. They'll win at home and on the road. It will take a lot to beat them. If we're worried about then NBA schedule and not the Lakers, Cavs, Magic, Spurs, and Hawks then we've got problems.

6and33areGOD · Post #4 » by **6and33areGOD** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:34 pm

It does even out over the course of the season, and honestly I think I'd rather finish the season with a ton of home games in order to mount a playoff run rather than start off with a bunch of home games then have to fight for playoff position on the road.

Also, bear in mind that the Lakers and Clippers share a building, so setting the schedule for those 2 teams is probably a lot more difficult than the rest of the NBA. I'd be interested to see what the splits are for the Clippers as well.

TonyMontana · Post #5 » by **TonyMontana** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:38 pm

bigal534 wrote:were all taking about how bad the schedule the NBA has made seemingly every year to be in the lakers favor. Here's a quick look at what the situation has been over the last 5 years:

Has it seemed drastic? yea... especially this year, but the Lakers dont make their schedule (we dont think )

There is already a thread in response to this same accusation, and I didnt know teams can make their own schedule but okay if you say so.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=965349

Godmoney wrote:All this griping about LA having too many home games to start the season has to stop. At the end of the season, if LA wins the championship is anyone really going to say "Gee, if only Boston had 17 of their first 21 games at home to get in sync then this year would've ended differently.

Whats funny is certain Cs fans are complaining about the Lakers early season home cooking, when in fact we well over 85% of our games both in March and April are away but the Cs are at home. So if your going to complain or grip and you disagree and your going to compare schedules then make sure to take a look at yours come the end of the season since like I said before it does even out and If I wanted my team to have the H.C cooking I prefer it happening at the end of the season not in the beginning of the season.

lojowo · Post #6 » by **lojowo** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:30 pm

Hey Tony,

Any big non basketball events rolling through LA later this season? Usually when a venue is booked for other reasons, schedulers create these unbalance schedules.

TonyMontana · Post #7 » by **TonyMontana** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:34 pm

lojowo wrote:Hey Tony,

Any big non basketball events rolling through LA later this season? Usually when a venue is booked for other reasons, schedulers create these unbalance schedules.

Thank you for sharing that with us. I didnt even realize to mention that.

GoGoCeltics · Post #8 » by **GoGoCeltics** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:53 pm

The Lakers play a lot of road games in March and April, but that is when a lot of teams are tanking. It is definitely an advantage to play a lot of home games early. You get in a rhythm and boost morale with a high record. Then you play teams on the road the second half of the season when a good chunk of teams have just given up and are tanking, some of which have already traded away any of their assets for draft picks/youth at the trade deadline. It is a slight advantage, but I believe it is an advantage nonetheless.

That said, I don't blame the Lakers, nor do I think there is some conspiracy against the Celtics.

Kefa461 · Post #9 » by **Kefa461** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:33 pm

Godmoney wrote:All this griping about LA having too many home games to start the season has to stop. At the end of the season, if LA wins the championship is anyone really going to say "Gee, if only Boston had 17 of their first 21 games at home to get in sync then this year would've ended differently."

LA is a good team and they'll finish with the #1 seed out West and probably the #1 seed overall. They'll win at home and on the road. It will take a lot to beat them. If we're worried about then NBA schedule and not the Lakers, Cavs, Magic, Spurs, and Hawks then we've got problems.

Just asking a question.......When did what we discuss here determine the outcome of games? What problems will we have...by discussing the schedules?

8-)

EJay33 · Post #10 » by **EJay33** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:13 pm

Kefa,

Why don't you go back and read the OP, where Bigal534 clearly states that the NBA makes the schedule in the Lakers favor. Which is an absolutely false statement, because at the end of the year each team has 41 home games and 41 away games.

This morning I opened up at least half of the threads on page 1 and couldn't believe how many people were claiming that LA has an advantage over Boston because of the schedule. People are saying it's better to have more home games early, because later in the season some teams will have "given up". One guy even claims that the Celtics have more back to backs than other teams, whereas LA often gets "3-4 days off between games" - another absolutely untrue statement.

Basically, if I were a Lakers fan and came here and read all these threads where people are in so many words blaming the schedule for why Boston hasn't looked as good as LA I'd be laughing at RealGM Celtics. The fact that people here are blaming the schedule for anything is outrageous, and it should be stopped. Boston ought to worry about themselves, their health, and their opponents. Worrying about the schedule is pointless because it all evens out. Personally, I'm more concerned about why Rondo can't do anything against Orlando and why Pierce can't hit a clutch FT than I am about how many road games the Lakers have played by Dec. 12.

It should be noted that LA has had an advantage SO FAR by having played so many home games, but this isn't favoritism for the Lakers, a conspiracy, or even an advantage for LA. It all evens out in the end. Unless you guys are going to be talking about who had the best record at Christmas 2009 ten years from now, it's a moot point.

Kefa461 · Post #11 » by **Kefa461** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:21 pm

Godmoney wrote:Kefa,

Why don't you go back and read the OP, where Bigal534 clearly states that the NBA makes the schedule in the Lakers favor. Which is an absolutely false statement, because at the end of the year each team has 41 home games and 41 away games.

This morning I opened up at least half of the threads on page 1 and couldn't believe how many people were claiming that LA has an advantage over Boston because of the schedule. People are saying it's better to have more home games early, because later in the season some teams will have "given up". One guy even claims that the Celtics have more back to backs than other teams, whereas LA often gets "3-4 days off between games" - another absolutely untrue statement.

Basically, if I were a Lakers fan and came here and read all these threads where people are in so many words blaming the schedule for why Boston hasn't looked as good as LA I'd be laughing at RealGM Celtics. The fact that people here are blaming the schedule for anything is outrageous, and it should be stopped. Boston ought to worry about themselves, their health, and their opponents. Worrying about the schedule is pointless because it all evens out. Personally, I'm more concerned about why Rondo can't do anything against Orlando and why Pierce can't hit a clutch FT than I am about how many road games the Lakers have played by Dec. 12.

It should be noted that LA has had an advantage SO FAR by having played so many home games, but this isn't favoritism for the Lakers, a conspiracy, or even an advantage for LA. It all evens out in the end. Unless you guys are going to be talking about who had the best record at Christmas 2009 ten years from now, it's a moot point.

Riddle me this.....when is a road game not a road game........ :lol:

When I play it at home and call it a road game......... :wink:

Jellybeans8 · Post #12 » by **Jellybeans8** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:14 pm

Lakers have to shares Staples with the Clippers and they hosts a bunch of concerts and award shows and all that other crap

Roscoe Sheed · Post #13 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:47 pm

Never thought about the tanking in March and April. Good point- there is a slight advantage to playing more road games at the end of the season

Mindflayer · Post #14 » by **Mindflayer** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:24 am

The Lakers have 2 more back-to-backs than the Celtics (15 vs. 13), half as many opponents on a back-to-back (7 vs. 14), have one 4 games in 5 nights to the Celtics 0, and face no opponents on the final game of a 4 games in 5 days trip vs. 3 for the Celtics. Other than the 17 home games in the first 21 to start the season, one could argue that the schedule makers have favored the Celtics more than the Lakers.

Kefa461 · Post #15 » by **Kefa461** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:25 am

Mindflayer wrote:The Lakers have 2 more back-to-backs than the Celtics (15 vs. 13), half as many opponents on a back-to-back (7 vs. 14), have one 4 games in 5 nights to the Celtics 0, and face no opponents on the final game of a 4 games in 5 days trip vs. 3 for the Celtics. Other than the 17 home games in the first 21 to start the season, one could argue that the schedule makers have favored the Celtics more than the Lakers.

That's a big "other than"....a quarter of the season........

8-)

GreenMachine · Post #16 » by **GreenMachine** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:41 am

Mindflayer wrote:The Lakers have 2 more back-to-backs than the Celtics (15 vs. 13), half as many opponents on a back-to-back (7 vs. 14), have one 4 games in 5 nights to the Celtics 0, and face no opponents on the final game of a 4 games in 5 days trip vs. 3 for the Celtics. Other than the 17 home games in the first 21 to start the season, one could argue that the schedule makers have favored the Celtics more than the Lakers.

But it works the other way too people. If at the end of the year your favorite team is fighting for playoff seeding, you would enjoy a nice stretch of Home Games.

DEEP3CL · Post #17 » by **DEEP3CL** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:45 am

lojowo wrote:Hey Tony,

Any big non basketball events rolling through LA later this season? Usually when a venue is booked for other reasons, schedulers create these unbalance schedules.

I know you asked Tony this, but you just hit the nail square on the head. Yes there are some events that take place in Staples, and recently they just put in a 20 mil bid to host the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight. And people have to remember it's 2 NBA teams and 1 hockey team in the same building. The info the OP listed is some pretty good data.....and if you look closely the Laker schedule started getting out of whack the older Staples has gotten because more events have been booked.

I mean this isn't the Laker franchise fault, look at it this way....if the front office of the people who run Staples( the Lakers don't run the arena) wanted to help the Lakers don't you think they'd book a lot of events early leaving the Lakers the back end of the schedule with a lot of home games late in the season?

I mean if that's the advantage that people are looking for that seems to make the most sense right?

Bottom line is this, if any of you guys get to LA soon take a tour of the downtown area around Staples. The whole area has been upgraded in the last 3 years to accommodate people looking for entertainment there......when just in a matter of 15 years ago that area was a grave yard as far as entertainment.

Believe me I'm not trying to make any excuse for the way the schedule came out, being old school I liked the more balanced schedules from back in the day myself.

sam_I_am · Post #18 » by **sam_I_am** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:45 pm

I personally think this schedule is a disadvantage to the Lakers. Right now they are rolling and the schedule has made it too easy. If they didn't have a Yankees like payroll and great talent advantage over the rest of the Western conference, their upcoming road schedule would knock then down a peg. As it is, it will take a major effort for them to keep pace with the Celtics and that could actually hurt them.

A fast start for a defending champion with great chemistry is a given. Lakers would have been better off getting 17 road games out of the way. As it is, they are a marked team and now they play a ton of games on the road. They could still maintain this great record but I think they had it too easy to start the season and it is more likely that will come back to bite them.

NBAWestFan · Post #19 » by **NBAWestFan** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:22 pm

Pretty funny post complaining about the schedule.

I guess because it will come down to the 4 games of the

Lakers At Boston

or

Boston at Lakers

I feel that Boston will get past Orlando and Cleveland if faced to win the east
and I think the Lakers will edge past Denver rather than the Spurs and Dallas.

Homecourt again like 2 yrs back will be HUGE.

from the 80's I know homecourt is key.

DorfonCeltics · Post #20 » by **DorfonCeltics** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:52 pm

I wasn't going to post in this thread but I just couldn't resist. What is with all the complaining going on around here? Talking about the Lakers' schedule is such a little bitch move. We have the best record in the NBA. We are on a 10 game winning streak. How about we just all sit back and enjoy the season rather than complain about things we have no control over.