Trade Idea Thread

[Det the Threat]

so trade away thorn AND camby for an underperforming, oft injured butler? AND losing a top pick?


No.

What would you do with Camby then?

Just trade him for youth/picks?
Trade for something else(then what?)?

I mean, he's gone next summer and almost everyone should know that.

[PerkinsFor3]

you can get better than that without losing a pick.

[PerkinsFor3]

with gs shopping randolph id like this:

randolph + biedrins (should get healthy, no?)

for

kaman + thornton

we'd save a few million, we'd get a c for when camby leaves/gets traded and we get a huge prospect who could play alongside griffin

[Det the Threat]

you can get better than that without losing a pick.

Alright, then what so you think a Camby + Thornton package(without a pick) could net us?

with gs shopping randolph id like this:

randolph + biedrins (should get healthy, no?)

for

kaman + thornton

we'd save a few million, we'd get a c for when camby leaves/gets traded and we get a huge prospect who could play alongside griffin

I'm not that sure about Biedrins back(now and in the future), but that's a Kaman deal i could live with.

[jflipclip]

Trading within the division scares me. A lot. Especially if haunts us in the long run. That is why I'm a bit weary of trading for Randolph.

[TheNewEra]

^^^ To this we lower the scare by trading Camby and fillers like (Smith, Skinner, orR.Davis), and our 2010 1st for AR and Maggs. We eat Maggs cap we won't have to give up any needed talent for AR the Warriors get expiring and a pick plus Camby makes up for AR.

[Forte IV]

If Corey was an expiring Id say yea, minus the 1st

[Det the Threat]

How about Ricky Rubio for the Wolves first round pick?

Or McGrady, Brooks for Davis, Camby?

BTW: There's no way i'd trade for Maggette and his crappy contract, even if it meant trading Baron and his contract.

[ClipperEric]

How about Ricky Rubio for the Wolves first round pick?

Or McGrady, Brooks for Davis, Camby?

BTW: There's no way i'd trade for Maggette and his crappy contract, even if it meant trading Baron and his contract.

Yes to both deals.

[donemilio21]

Could we trade Ricky Davis or Collins for Nate Robinson if we use one of our trade exception?
Since Knicks are over the luxury tax limit that would double their savings

[jgustav1]

How about Ricky Rubio for the Wolves first round pick?

Or McGrady, Brooks for Davis, Camby?

BTW: There's no way i'd trade for Maggette and his crappy contract, even if it meant trading Baron and his contract.

A definite no to the Rubio trade, the Minny pick has more value at this point. The pick should be at least where Rubio was selected in the draft and the Clippers can add a player without all the contract issues associated with Rubio.

I'd consider the second one, although I doubt the Rockets would be willing to do it.

[jgustav1]

with gs shopping randolph id like this:

randolph + biedrins (should get healthy, no?)

for

kaman + thornton

we'd save a few million, we'd get a c for when camby leaves/gets traded and we get a huge prospect who could play alongside griffin

I'd make the trade if Biedrins comes back and averages a double/double like he did last year.

[Det the Threat]

A definite no to the Rubio trade, the Minny pick has more value at this point. The pick should be at least where Rubio was selected in the draft and the Clippers can add a player without all the contract issues associated with Rubio.

That Minny pick is still top 10 protected for the next two years and could easily be a late lottery - late teens pick by 2012.
You know, teams that draft really high tend to get better over time and i don't think they'll have another top 5 pick in 2012. Late lotto maybe, but not a high lottery pick.

Also, i consider Rubio as a real good prospect and think he would be a great addition in 2011. I mean, there's a reason why most people had ranked him at #2 before last years draft.

[jgustav1]

A definite no to the Rubio trade, the Minny pick has more value at this point. The pick should be at least where Rubio was selected in the draft and the Clippers can add a player without all the contract issues associated with Rubio.

That Minny pick is still top 10 protected for the next two years and could easily be a late lottery - late teens pick by 2012.
You know, teams that draft really high tend to get better over time and i don't think they'll have another top 5 pick in 2012. Late lotto maybe, but not a high lottery pick.

Also, i consider Rubio as a real good prospect and think he would be a great addition in 2011. I mean, there's a reason why most people had ranked him at #2 before last years draft.

I disagree on the value of that pick, sure it could be late lottery if the Wolves select John Wall and/or Harrison Barnes and they can trade Rubio or Flynn for wing players, but if they end up with a top 3 or 4 prospect in each of the next two drafts, they could more likely still be a bottom 5 team. They may have some good prospects, but it could take a couple of seasons for them to develop. They have cap space in this offseason, but I don't see an impact player going there, particularly with all the other more successful franchises also having a lot of cap space.

Too many teams have passed them in the Western conference such as the Thunder, Grizzlies, Kings, Clippers, etc. that they would need to draft a superstar such as Wall or Harrison Barnes to make a big jump ahead of these teams. I also think Rubio could come over in 2012 or later to avoid have a rookie slotted contract by staying out of the league an extra season.

[Det the Threat]

Well, i just don't think that the Wolves will suck for the next 3 years straight.
If not, which is more realistic to me, then we'll either receive a late lotto pick in 2011 or 2012.

And even if it would be the #5 pick in 2012, i'm just not so sure that the guy available then will be as good as Rubio.

[jgustav1]

Well, i just don't think that the Wolves will suck for the next 3 years straight.
If not, which is more realistic to me, then we'll either receive a late lotto pick in 2011 or 2012.

And even if it would be the #5 pick in 2012, i'm just not so sure that the guy available then will be as good as Rubio.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this one, Wolves have 2 possible future #1 picks this year from other teams but nothing in the high lottery besides their own pick. I just think their roster has too many holes such as interior defense, lack of decent wing players and depth to improve much in 2 seasons.

[Det the Threat]

Well, i just don't think that the Wolves will suck for the next 3 years straight.
If not, which is more realistic to me, then we'll either receive a late lotto pick in 2011 or 2012.

And even if it would be the #5 pick in 2012, i'm just not so sure that the guy available then will be as good as Rubio.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this one, Wolves have 2 possible future #1 picks this year from other teams but nothing in the high lottery besides their own pick. I just think their roster has too many holes such as interior defense, lack of decent wing players and depth to improve much in 2 seasons.

They could easily draft and/or sign for those perimeter scorer and center with all those picks and cap space they've got.
They supposedly very interested and willing to pay Rudy Gay.

Still, no one knows what kind of pick we'll get back.

[TheNewEra]

We need moves if Dunleavy is the coach we might as well keep throwing out new players so he can still suck

[jgustav1]

Well, i just don't think that the Wolves will suck for the next 3 years straight.
If not, which is more realistic to me, then we'll either receive a late lotto pick in 2011 or 2012.

And even if it would be the #5 pick in 2012, i'm just not so sure that the guy available then will be as good as Rubio.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this one, Wolves have 2 possible future #1 picks this year from other teams but nothing in the high lottery besides their own pick. I just think their roster has too many holes such as interior defense, lack of decent wing players and depth to improve much in 2 seasons.

They could easily draft and/or sign for those perimeter scorer and center with all those picks and cap space they've got.
They supposedly very interested and willing to pay Rudy Gay.

Still, no one knows what kind of pick we'll get back.

Gay is a RFA, they won't get him without overpaying, unlikely considering the Wolves lost 19 million last year and are losing money again this season. Even if they make good picks in the lottery over the next two years, it will take them some time to develop, look at what OKC's record was with Durant as a rookie.

[old rem]

with gs shopping randolph id like this:

randolph + biedrins (should get healthy, no?)

for

kaman + thornton

we'd save a few million, we'd get a c for when camby leaves/gets traded and we get a huge prospect who could play alongside griffin

I'd make the trade if Biedrins comes back and averages a double/double like he did last year.

Would make no sense at all for GSW. Kaman isn't right for the Warrior tempo and GSW badly needs Biedrins + Randolph for rebounds and D. Thornton would wind up behind Azubuike and Maggette,meaning GSW would soon be trading him off anyhow.

Biedrins incidently, came back tonight,a bit rusty. Randolph matched KG rebounding and outscored him by 2. There's no substance to any rumor that suggests Randolph gets traded at a discount.
Last month similar alleged "insiders" said Ellis wants out. He's said very specifically that's a lie.
More of the same with Randolph.