TLC Tonight

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #1 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:59 pm

Thoughts?, perdctions?

Post #2 » by **Stanford** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:24 am

Superman is dead!

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #3 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:05 am

sheamus vs john cena was a very good and trust me im happy cena lost the belt , hopefully they can make sheamus in to a true superstar heel

drew vs John Morrison was a darn good match

kofi vs orton another good match

whole show was good tonight besides the dvia match at the opner

the Ladder match was botched to much, i give them credit for trying new things but still not the best match

Post #4 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:16 am

You're bs'ing me right now. Please tell me cena didn't lose the belt to that irish goofball.

CapeCrusader · Post #5 » by **CapeCrusader** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:31 am

lol yep hes the new champ. I don't mind him as the champ as long as he doesn't give it up at the next ppv. World titles have to stop changing hands so often, they need to be champ for at least 3-4 months i say, with a surprise win here and there.

Post #6 » by **Stanford** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:43 am

The end of Cena-Sheamus looked really weird, almost as if it were botched. I got a weird feeling from the look on Cena's face, the commentators comments and just the time they spent on Cena crawling out of the ring, as if they weren't ready for the next segment backstage.

skbucks1985 · Post #7 » by **skbucks1985** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:52 pm

You almost have to have Sheamus win. You build him up as this unstoppable monster and then have him lose his first big time match kills his momentum. They did the same thing with Umaga although they built him up more thoroughly but when he lost the feud to Cena his momentum was gone.

Dunthreevy · Post #8 » by **Dunthreevy** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:24 pm

The end of Cena/Sheamus definitely looked botched, then again the entire match did. I've come around to the idea of Sheamus getting a push (although I still think there are others they should've pushed), but the match was just ugly. Not impressive at all in my opinion.

Other than that match and the divas match, I think the entire PPV was really good. Shelton Benjamin really needs more of a push. The guy puts on a freaking show any time he's given the opportunity. Highly entertaining! His match with Christian was the best of the night in my opinion.

Celtsfan1980 · Post #9 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:35 pm

Wrestlers like Benoit and Michaels had to wait years before winning the Championship, so this is a bit ridiculous. I think it's time Vince should retire.

CapeCrusader · Post #10 » by **CapeCrusader** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:18 pm

Dunthreevy wrote:The end of Cena/Sheamus definitely looked botched, then again the entire match did. I've come around to the idea of Sheamus getting a push (although I still think there are others they should've pushed), but the match was just ugly. Not impressive at all in my opinion.

Other than that match and the divas match, I think the entire PPV was really good. Shelton Benjamin really needs more of a push. The guy puts on a freaking show any time he's given the opportunity. Highly entertaining! His match with Christian was the best of the night in my opinion.

I totally agree with Shelton....they gave him a push early on when he kept beating Triple H and then they gave him nothing....he could of easily been a world champ.

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #11 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:45 am

thre is nothing wrong with shemaus being champion as long as it is booked right, i know there are more guys deserveing but he is makeing a new star

its a very good idea

Dunthreevy · Post #12 » by **Dunthreevy** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:46 pm

CapeCrusader wrote:
Dunthreevy wrote:The end of Cena/Sheamus definitely looked botched, then again the entire match did. I've come around to the idea of Sheamus getting a push (although I still think there are others they should've pushed), but the match was just ugly. Not impressive at all in my opinion.

Other than that match and the divas match, I think the entire PPV was really good. Shelton Benjamin really needs more of a push. The guy puts on a freaking show any time he's given the opportunity. Highly entertaining! His match with Christian was the best of the night in my opinion.

I totally agree with Shelton....they gave him a push early on when he kept beating Triple H and then they gave him nothing....he could of easily been a world champ.

When Shelton first came to the WWE was during the 3 years or so that I stopped watching. I really wish they would bring him over to Raw so I could see more of his matches because the guy is a highlight waiting to happen. He should have some hardware around his waist. When they showed all the guys in DX gear last night, I thought back to my comment amount making DX a stable again and I think Benjamin would fit in quite well. He's young, extremely talented and gets a reaction from the crowd. Adding him, a couple of the young stars, and another established star to DX would be awesome.

El Hardee · Post #13 » by **El Hardee** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:36 pm

Got to agree woth Dun3vy, Shelton is amazing. He has got to be one of the most gifted athletes in the WWE. He so needs a push, I would like to see him as a heel, maybe he could be a militant blk dude who is anti American, and feud with Cena. He really needs a creative angle to him to get a real push.

SpReEfOrAlL · Post #14 » by **SpReEfOrAlL** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:31 am

I am a little late on this. But putting that belt on Sheamus is just stupid. Just unreal. Tell me what this clown does better than Kane outside of being Irish? Or any other dude with size? Nothing. Worst push in a long long long time.

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #15 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:54 am

What hes done is show chrisam and he is a good worker for a man of his size, hes young and hes a fresh face in a very stale main event scene

and honselty alot of you are falling for what WWE wants shemaus is the heel and his goal is to make you not like him and not want him to have the belt so his mission is acomplished

wwe is not as dumb as alot of the "smart marks think" they play cena to the "smart marks" perfectly, all the internet fans hate him and want him to lose and alot iwll pay to see cena in a ppv main event because they want to finaly see him get his ass beat and lose his belt, basicly cena at the momment is a face and a heel at the same time,
heel to the "smart marks" and a face to the kids and women and other marks
WWE i useing the "smart marks" perfeclty /rant

Post #16 » by **Stanford** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:02 pm

jeffhardyfan52 wrote:wwe is not as dumb as alot of the "smart marks think" they play cena to the "smart marks" perfectly, all the internet fans hate him and want him to lose and alot iwll pay to see cena in a ppv main event because they want to finaly see him get his ass beat and lose his belt, basicly cena at the momment is a face and a heel at the same time,
heel to the "smart marks" and a face to the kids and women and other marks
WWE i useing the "smart marks" perfeclty /rant

I've heard that one a lot, and I disagree. The reason I hate Cena is because he elicits zero emotion from me. His matches and bland are usually take away from a PPV. You can't just say "Oh, well you find him boring and bland, so because you hate him so much, the WWE must be booking him right!". Well, no. The point of a match is to have the viewer show some emotional interest in it. I have no emotional interest in a Cena match.

Dunthreevy · Post #17 » by **Dunthreevy** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:46 pm

El Hardee wrote:Got to agree woth Dun3vy, Shelton is amazing. He has got to be one of the most gifted athletes in the WWE. He so needs a push, I would like to see him as a heel, maybe he could be a militant blk dude who is anti American, and feud with Cena. He really needs a creative angle to him to get a real push.

Nation of Domination Pt. 2 maybe?

skbucks1985 · Post #18 » by **skbucks1985** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:48 pm

El Hardee wrote:Got to agree woth Dun3vy, Shelton is amazing. He has got to be one of the most gifted athletes in the WWE. He so needs a push, I would like to see him as a heel, maybe he could be a militant blk dude who is anti American, and feud with Cena. He really needs a creative angle to him to get a real push.

Two problems with that. WWE doesn't have the balls to do an angle like that anymore. That was Attitude Era stuff. The other problem is that Shelton doesn't have the mic skills to pull of an angle like that. Although they could stick someone like Abraham Washington on him to fix that,

Dunthreevy · Post #19 » by **Dunthreevy** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:01 pm

safi wrote:
El Hardee wrote:Got to agree woth Dun3vy, Shelton is amazing. He has got to be one of the most gifted athletes in the WWE. He so needs a push, I would like to see him as a heel, maybe he could be a militant blk dude who is anti American, and feud with Cena. He really needs a creative angle to him to get a real push.

Two problems with that. WWE doesn't have the balls to do an angle like that anymore. That was Attitude Era stuff. The other problem is that Shelton doesn't have the mic skills to pull of an angle like that. Although they could stick someone like Abraham Washington on him to fix that,

That would actually be a really good idea. They could have Washington be the mouthpiece for Shelton and just have Shelton go in the ring and wow the crowd as usual. I noticed last night on ECW (one of the few times that I've actually watched it) that Shelton really didn't seem to be comfortable with a mic in his hand at all.

skbucks1985 · Post #20 » by **skbucks1985** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:48 pm

Dunthreevy wrote:
safi wrote:
El Hardee wrote:Got to agree woth Dun3vy, Shelton is amazing. He has got to be one of the most gifted athletes in the WWE. He so needs a push, I would like to see him as a heel, maybe he could be a militant blk dude who is anti American, and feud with Cena. He really needs a creative angle to him to get a real push.

Two problems with that. WWE doesn't have the balls to do an angle like that anymore. That was Attitude Era stuff. The other problem is that Shelton doesn't have the mic skills to pull of an angle like that. Although they could stick someone like Abraham Washington on him to fix that,

That would actually be a really good idea. They could have Washington be the mouthpiece for Shelton and just have Shelton go in the ring and wow the crowd as usual. I noticed last night on ECW (one of the few times that I've actually watched it) that Shelton really didn't seem to be comfortable with a mic in his hand at all.

Its really kind of puzzling how a guy can be so comftorable wrestling but so uncomftorable talking. Obviously he's never gonna be HBK or Jericho on the stick. But, for a guy who's been with the company for 7 years you'd expect him to be at least adequate on the mic after all this time.