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Post#361 » by Casperkid23 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:09 pm

PeeDee wrote:I have WJ above Aldrich and Henry for sure. Wes is definitely more of an athlete than Henry is. Plus he's shown a lot more on the defensive end too. 23 is a fine age for someone thats ready for the NBA right now. It's not like he'll be slowing down any time soon.

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*if Favors can't be traded for a worthwhile package, I'd have no problems taking Turner @ 2.

There's more to show on the defensive end than blocks and steals. Wes is awful at containing his man, even if it's within a zone. Way too much gambling going on with him, you are overrating his defense by quite a bit with a statement like that.
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Post#362 » by Esohny » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:39 pm

I think people are overlooking Henry's defense a bit. He's pretty good at staying in front of his man and knows where to be, despite being so young.

I've been saying for a while that a Turner and Henry draft would be great for us (of course, I originally thought Henry would be available in the teens; now it sure looks like we'd have to trade up for him).
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Post#363 » by PeeDee » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:45 pm

It's well known that Syracuse uses an extensive zone and that can hardly show what WJ is capable of man to man. What he has shown is good defensive awareness and the physical tools to guard more than one position. Gambling is common in college; he's hardly a liability here.
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Post#364 » by PeeDee » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:49 pm

I will add that if both players (Henry and Johnson) keep balling like they have been, I'll be more than happy to welcome either (or both!) of them onto our squad next year.
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Post#365 » by john2jer » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:09 pm

When all is said and done, I strongly believe Xavier Henry is a top 6 pick. We'd have to do some serious moving up to get Turner and Henry, but I'd be VERY in favor of it. Is it too greedy to trade Sessions, Gomes, Brewer, plus Utah/Char for an established player and #6 in the draft? Probably. Maybe there's a team in desperate need of a PG, that also needs to clear salary, and has a good veteran they want to dump. Unfortunately most of the good veterans that interest me are wings.

I hate him probably more than anybody, but maybe Philly completely falls apart this year and wants to dump Dally? Dally and #6? Yeah, that's probably asking way too much. But if anyone can, the Kahn-man can.

For the record, I'm not saying I hate Wes Johnson, or think he'd be a bad pick. I'm just saying I'd take Wall, Turner, Favors, Henry, and Aldrich over him. I think that's a testament to how deep this draft is looking to be, and it's still early.
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Post#366 » by PeeDee » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:42 pm

You're right, it is still early. Who knows if someone is going to rise up as it gets later like Flynn... or sink down as it gets later.

I admit I need to see more of Henry. If he is athletic enough and keeps playing like he has, he could very well be our first pick. I also admit I am biased against him because of the dumb way he pronounces his name.
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Post#367 » by TheProdigy » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:04 pm

john2jer wrote:When all is said and done, I strongly believe Xavier Henry is a top 6 pick. We'd have to do some serious moving up to get Turner and Henry, but I'd be VERY in favor of it. Is it too greedy to trade Sessions, Gomes, Brewer, plus Utah/Char for an established player and #6 in the draft? Probably. Maybe there's a team in desperate need of a PG, that also needs to clear salary, and has a good veteran they want to dump. Unfortunately most of the good veterans that interest me are wings.

I hate him probably more than anybody, but maybe Philly completely falls apart this year and wants to dump Dally? Dally and #6? Yeah, that's probably asking way too much. But if anyone can, the Kahn-man can.


If we could acquire 2 of Johnson-Turner-Henry in the draft without losing any of our core players, I'd be ecstatic. We have enough attractive assets for other teams that we shouldn't have to include Jefferson, Love, Flynn, or Rubio(not going to sell low on him). The question we have to ask ourselves is whether we'd rather have money in the offseason to sign a high priced free agent or if we'd rather build through the draft. Any team that deals a top 5 or 10 pick is going to be asking for a lot in return, so we'd probably have to deal away our expirings.

I like that Philly trade for Dalembert. Yes he's way overpaid, but he's a big man that can D up so he fits a position of need. Plus we get a draft pick so what's not to like? There's no guarantee that the money we'd save for the offseason would go to good use anyways. We'd probably have to over-pay any free agent to sign with us.

Wouldn't it be something if Kahn was able to acquire 2 top 10 picks in consecutive years?
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Post#368 » by TheProdigy » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:13 pm

PeeDee wrote: I also admit I am biased against him because of the dumb way he pronounces his name.


If he pronounced his name the other way(the right way), he could have had a great nickname- Professor Xavier. I can see it now...

Tom Hanneman: "Xavier Henry with yet another 3, he's on fire!"

Jim Peterson: "Professor Xavier is clearly getting into the heads of the opposition."
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Post#369 » by john2jer » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:26 pm

While Dally definitely isn't worth $13mil next year, I'd argue that him and Henry combined is worth $16mil. We'd likely be left with a little 2010 cap space, but we'd still have a ton in 2011.
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Post#370 » by Zeitgeister » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:29 am

john2jer wrote:When all is said and done, I strongly believe Xavier Henry is a top 6 pick. We'd have to do some serious moving up to get Turner and Henry, but I'd be VERY in favor of it. Is it too greedy to trade Sessions, Gomes, Brewer, plus Utah/Char for an established player and #6 in the draft? Probably. Maybe there's a team in desperate need of a PG, that also needs to clear salary, and has a good veteran they want to dump. Unfortunately most of the good veterans that interest me are wings.

I hate him probably more than anybody, but maybe Philly completely falls apart this year and wants to dump Dally? Dally and #6? Yeah, that's probably asking way too much. But if anyone can, the Kahn-man can.

For the record, I'm not saying I hate Wes Johnson, or think he'd be a bad pick. I'm just saying I'd take Wall, Turner, Favors, Henry, and Aldrich over him. I think that's a testament to how deep this draft is looking to be, and it's still early.


I would be in favor of moving those guys for those two draft picks. Turner/Henry/Flynn is a hell of a back court to go with Al/Love in the front court. I'm in.
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Post#371 » by Foye » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:22 pm

I'd be looking to keep AL, Love, Flynn.

Everyone else and Utah/Charlotte picks can be traded to move up in the draft although I'd like to keep Brewer because of the energy he brings to the floor. :)
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Post#372 » by john2jer » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:40 pm

Ideally Brewer will bring a lot of energy to the end of the bench after the 2010 draft.
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Post#373 » by dunkonu21 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:35 pm

Too bad Avery Bradley isn't a couple inches taller. My god he is a greeeeeat player.

Also, does anyone think Ed Davis could play 3 for the wolves? I think he'd look good on our team.
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Post#374 » by Esohny » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:01 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:Too bad Avery Bradley isn't a couple inches taller. My god he is a greeeeeat player.

Also, does anyone think Ed Davis could play 3 for the wolves? I think he'd look good on our team.

Nah, he's a straight up PF. Good player, but a PF.
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Post#375 » by the_bruce » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:05 am

I will settle for 2 of these sets of players.

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Post#376 » by Krapinsky » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:28 am

dunkonu21 wrote:Too bad Avery Bradley isn't a couple inches taller. My god he is a greeeeeat player.

Also, does anyone think Ed Davis could play 3 for the wolves? I think he'd look good on our team.


Maybe the 5, not the 3.
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Post#377 » by big3_8_19_21 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:39 am

What about Jeremy Lin in the 2nd?
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Post#378 » by revprodeji » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:43 pm

John Henson is the 3 prospect to look at, but I doubt he comes out this year.

aldrich has been struggling, I wonder if he could slip? I see him as an Okafor type and the strong 3rd big we need. If we get a Turner-type with our pick, and an Aldrich with the Char pick I would be happy.
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Post#379 » by revprodeji » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:49 pm

John Henson is the 3 prospect to look at, but I doubt he comes out this year.

aldrich has been struggling, I wonder if he could slip? I see him as an Okafor type and the strong 3rd big we need. If we get a Turner-type with our pick, and an Aldrich with the Char pick I would be happy.
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Post#380 » by Esohny » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:52 pm

revprodeji wrote:John Henson is the 3 prospect to look at, but I doubt he comes out this year.

aldrich has been struggling, I wonder if he could slip? I see him as an Okafor type and the strong 3rd big we need. If we get a Turner-type with our pick, and an Aldrich with the Char pick I would be happy.


Alabi is available near the Charlotte pick in a lot of mocks. I'm not in love with him, but he's a fairly athletic shotblocking 7 footer. It seems like we'd get him with our 2nd pick more easily than Aldrich.
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