Wizards vs Suns 12/19 @ 9 EST

Post #2 » by **montestewart** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:27 am

OK, so maybe you have the touch. It would figure that the person who finally turns the Wizards around is the undrafted free agent that makes the lucky game threads.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #3 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:51 am

Last night the Wizards were almost as hot as Eva Longoria in that picture Astonished. It must be the game thread.

Phoenix is a good team for Washington to be facing tonight.

--Their style of play is right in the Wizards wheelhouse. Phoenix is a terrific scoring team, but they'll let teams back in the game if the team pounds them inside. Washington's going to score inside.

--Gil's 45 last night is the most he had since scoring 54 on Phoenix three years ago, with Nash playing uptempo. The Suns beat them easily before in DC, so they probably won't be expecting a battle.

--Jamison didn't play the last time the teams met. His shot was off last night and I don't expect him to have two off nights in a row. Also, his 4 steals showed some effort defensively.

--Caron was playing poorly last time the teams met, but has found his game. Hill badly outplayed him in DC but I doubt he does again tonight. Butler's had a couple 5 steal games. He's posting up better. His midrange game is on now.

--Washington's been playing competitively the last 7 games, and FINALLY won one. I think they'll be loose and confident tonight.

Phoenix might win on execution and go perimeter shooting, but I think this is a game where Flip demonstrates his coaching ability. Frye got them by taking Brenda outside last time. I wonder what Flip will play him this time?

Phoenix is a very talented, dangerous team, but I think Washington can take this one, too. They tend to play up to the competition. I think the Suns will be over confident, and can see them putting up 110 and possibly still losing to the Wiz.

closg00 · Post #4 » by **closg00** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:59 pm

I have this pegged for a loss.

*We are on a b2b
*Gilbert won't have two nights in-a-row like last night
*AJ's shoulder is tender
*Flips rotations

Hoopalotta · Post #5 » by **Hoopalotta** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:05 pm

Unless we play tight D here, we're going to loose this one.

Sorry, sorry. After the random thoughts thread, I just.....

CCJ's points are good as far as our theoretical matchups, but tired legs after all of the big 3 ran at about 40 minutes is going to be tough. I don't mean to be a downer but I think they're going to doink us dirty in this one.

I mean, sweet maple syrup, can that Canadian calibrator Mountie a mighty bombast of bounce passes or what? When I heard Channing Frye was going to be their Center I had them pegged to miss the playoffs entirely, but now....

Yup, a dirty doinking most likely. Sorry.

I just pray for good health.

dlts20 · Post #6 » by **dlts20** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:02 pm

I rewatched the game and I like what Im seeing from Gil but Im still sad. He’s right arm likes great, his left arm looks great, his right leg looks great, but his left leg looks still dead and it probably wont ever come 100% back. Maybe not even 90%. I remember I use to be happy that if he had to hurt his knee, Im glad its the left because all righties want to keep there right side strong. Then you watch the games and realize that 90% of the time as a righty, you are going to leap & explode off your left leg, not the right.

Thats Gil’s problem right now. Even last night he made a ton of great shots in the lane but he shot every single one of them from ground level. I still have his 54 & 60pt games on tape and he was never MJ or Wade but Gil use to explode to the rim and finish high. Now he lets the ball go from the floor basically and thats always going to suck. He could get better as the season goes on and most guys feel alot better in there 2nd year back but like I said, he always feels an extra boost against GS so if he couldnt get off the ground against them then he probably wont get off the ground against anyone.

Thats the only thing that saddens me. Still, we all saw an old MJ do well even without being able to jump. Gil is like that. He still has mad handles and knows how to position his body. He also still has unlimited range and good vision so he will produce numbers. The question is wether he’s good enough to throw up monster games against the big 3 or 4 in the East because the old Gil could. IDK if this guy can consistently without that lift and that burst at times but he’s getting there.

The good thing is that just like GS, the other team he kills on the road is the Suns. He doesnt kill them like GS but he still lights them up. Im worried because he looked tired last night and its a back to back but I could see him going for 40 again tonight against Nash and his boy Richardson. Who is going to stop him in the lane? Frye? Yeah right

AceDegenerate · Post #7 » by **AceDegenerate** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:30 pm

Phoenix has kinda been up & down as of late, so this is totally a winnable game. If Gil can bring the same energy/effort again, I like our chances. But you have to wonder how he will respond to the 2nd of a back to back on that knee. We need him playing 40+ minutes right now if we are going to win games, when he goes to the bench we just lose way too much our +/- #'s with Gil out are atrocious.

EnisDonKing · Post #8 » by **EnisDonKing** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:46 pm

Is Jamison going to play tonight? On some sites he is listed inactive with shoulder injury.

Post #9 » by **nate33** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:19 pm

We will lose. We don't defend the three pointer well, we don't get back on D, and we refuse to take advantage in the post when we have a size advantage.

I'm as happy as the rest of you that we got the monkey off our back with the win last night, but I was still pretty unimpressed. If Golden State hits some free throws down the stretch and avoids throwing the ball away, we could have lost that one too.

Halcyon · Post #10 » by **Halcyon** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:26 pm

I just want to see how Arenas looks after a lot of work last night. If we win that's a bonus, imo.

closg00 · Post #11 » by **closg00** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:36 pm

nate33 wrote:We will lose. We don't defend the three pointer well, we don't get back on D, and Flip refuses to take advantage in the post when we have a size advantage.

I'm as happy as the rest of you that we got the monkey off our back with the win last night, but I was still pretty unimpressed. If Golden State hits some free throws down the stretch and avoids throwing the ball away, we could have lost that one too.

Fixed

Your other comments were spot-on Nate, we were lucky to have the benefit of a hot hibachi last night, otherwise we most-likely would have lost. Not impressed, the upside is that this game will Gil more confidence.

DaRealHibachi · Post #12 » by **DaRealHibachi** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:45 pm

Halcyon wrote:I just want to see how Arenas looks after a lot of work last night. If we win that's a bonus, imo.

Exactly...

I don't really care about the outcome, just rooting for great performances from Gil, Young, Blatche and Wood... Anyone know the ETA on Milli's return btw...???

DaRealHibachi · Post #13 » by **DaRealHibachi** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:49 pm

closg00 wrote:
nate33 wrote:We will lose. We don't defend the three pointer well, we don't get back on D, and Flip refuses to take advantage in the post when we have a size advantage.

I'm as happy as the rest of you that we got the monkey off our back with the win last night, but I was still pretty unimpressed. If Golden State hits some free throws down the stretch and avoids throwing the ball away, we could have lost that one too.

Fixed Your other comments were spot-on Nate, we were lucky to have the benefit of a hot hibachi last night, otherwise we most-likely would have lost. Not impressed, the upside is that this game will Gil more confidence.

I dunno if that needed any fixing... If you want to win, you play to your strengths... AJ knows his strength is that flipshot he does under the basket, not the shotjacking he usually does... Blatche has some good moves he can use under the basket...

Flip isn't a babysitter who needs to tell them how to play a game they're getting paid millions to play... If that's the case, we really need to get some other players on this team...

Post #14 » by **LyricalRico** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:00 pm

DaRealHibachi wrote:Flip isn't a babysitter who needs to tell them how to play a game they're getting paid millions to play... If that's the case, we really need to get some other players on this team...

GhostsOfGil · Post #15 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:35 pm

to much hate on flip imo. did u see the article today via wt about him having to yell at his players for taking bad shots? this is what many of us have echoed during close games. its not flip its the players. carons ill advised late game face ups, jamisons 3 point attempts with 20 on the shot clock, the shots are bad and its not what flip wants. his rotations have been questionable at times but count me in as one of the few strong flip saunders supporters on this wiz board.

Post #16 » by **montestewart** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:42 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:I mean, sweet maple syrup, can that Canadian calibrator Mountie a mighty bombast of bounce passes or what?

Fantastic phrasing; compare that to the average basketball announcer: " He's a big strong guy" . . .

You should be a basketball color commentator or poet or both (if you're not already)

dandridge 10 · Post #17 » by **dandridge 10** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:05 pm

nate33 wrote:We will lose. We don't defend the three pointer well, we don't get back on D, and we refuse to take advantage in the post when we have a size advantage.

I'm as happy as the rest of you that we got the monkey off our back with the win last night, but I was still pretty unimpressed. If Golden State hits some free throws down the stretch and avoids throwing the ball away, we could have lost that one too.

dandridge 10 · Post #18 » by **dandridge 10** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:11 pm

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:to much hate on flip imo. did u see the article today via wt about him having to yell at his players for taking bad shots? this is what many of us have echoed during close games. its not flip its the players. carons ill advised late game face ups, jamisons 3 point attempts with 20 on the shot clock, the shots are bad and its not what flip wants. his rotations have been questionable at times but count me in as one of the few strong flip saunders supporters on this wiz board.

Exactly...Couldn't have said it better. Count me also as one of the strong Flip Saunders supporters.

dandridge 10 · Post #19 » by **dandridge 10** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:13 pm

dandridge 10 wrote:
zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:to much hate on flip imo. did u see the article today via wt about him having to yell at his players for taking bad shots? this is what many of us have echoed during close games. its not flip its the players. carons ill advised late game face ups, jamisons 3 point attempts with 20 on the shot clock, the shots are bad and its not what flip wants. his rotations have been questionable at times but count me in as one of the few strong flip saunders supporters on this wiz board.

Exactly...Couldn't have said it better. Count me also as one of the strong Flip Saunders supporters.

. When you see the same players playing the same way under three different coaches, its about time to blame the players and not the coach.

dandridge 10 · Post #20 » by **dandridge 10** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:13 pm

dandridge 10 wrote:
zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:to much hate on flip imo. did u see the article today via wt about him having to yell at his players for taking bad shots? this is what many of us have echoed during close games. its not flip its the players. carons ill advised late game face ups, jamisons 3 point attempts with 20 on the shot clock, the shots are bad and its not what flip wants. his rotations have been questionable at times but count me in as one of the few strong flip saunders supporters on this wiz board.

Exactly...Couldn't have said it better. Count me also as one of the strong Flip Saunders supporters.

. When you see the same players playing the same way under three different coaches, its about time to blame the players and not the coach.

Who will win this game?