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MN/Det/Utah 

Post#1 » by post0115 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:12 am

MN gets Kirilenko, NYK 1st
MN gives D. Wilkins, Blount, Gomes, our 3 2nd round picks

Utah gets: Rip Hamilton, Gomes
Utah gives: Kirilenko, NYK 1st

Det gets: D. Wilkins, Blount (expirings), Twolves 3 2nd round picks
Det gives: Rip Hamilton

MN: gets another top 10 pick unprotected
Utah: gets rid of Kirlenko's contract, starting 5 of D. Williams, Rip Hamilton, R. Brewer, Boozer, and Okur
Det: Gets rid of Hamilton's contract and lets them be a bigger player in 2010 free agency.
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Re: MN/Det/Utah 

Post#2 » by Esohny » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:20 am

We only have 1 2nd rounder. The others belong to NOH.
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Post#3 » by Krapinsky » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:08 am

I thought there was a rule that limited a team to giving up two picks per trade?
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Post#4 » by shrink » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:11 am

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:I thought there was a rule that limited a team to giving up two picks per trade?


It sounded reasonable, but I couldn't find anything in Larry's FAQ (#71) on the issue.
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Re: MN/Det/Utah 

Post#5 » by Krapinsky » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:35 am

shrink wrote:
Dr.Krapinsky wrote:I thought there was a rule that limited a team to giving up two picks per trade?


It sounded reasonable, but I couldn't find anything in Larry's FAQ (#71) on the issue.


I can't either. I'm not sure where I came up with that, but I can't think of an example where more than two picks were traded from a team.

Pau, Garnett, Kidd -- all only included two picks.
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Post#6 » by Foye » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:32 pm

Ouch. Kirilenko has stopped playing basketball once he signed that contract. It hurts but I would do it if the pick is likely top 8. Otherwise, not.
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Post#7 » by Biff Cooper » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:35 pm

The Penny Hardaway / Chris Webber trade involved three future firsts, but may have been under previous CBA.
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Post#8 » by Krapinsky » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:23 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:The Penny Hardaway / Chris Webber trade involved three future firsts, but may have been under previous CBA.


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Post#9 » by Worm Guts » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:27 pm

The Webber/ Gugliotta trade also involved 3 first round picks
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Post#10 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:33 pm

Kenyon Martin trade too
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Re: MN/Det/Utah 

Post#11 » by Tirion » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:34 pm

right, and the Pistons do this because... they just want to get rid of the Hamilton? not gonna work.
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Post#12 » by shrink » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:04 pm

Tirion wrote:right, and the Pistons do this because... they just want to get rid of the Hamilton? not gonna work.


Maybe. New revenue numbers are out for this season

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/m ... 3/18850386

ken berger wrote: The hardest-hit franchise so far is the Detroit Pistons, whose net average gate receipts are down a staggering 42.8 percent year-over-year, according to the figures reported by teams to the league office. The Pistons made an average of $537,263 per game on ticket sales through their first eight home games, down from $938,833 at the same point last season. The Pistons, located in the epicenter of joblessness, have seen paid attendance slip 22 percent, to 14,821 from 18,993 in the first month of 2008-09.

The other teams suffering the most at the gate are the Sacramento Kings (average gate receipts down 36.2 percent), Minnesota Timberwolves (down 24.4 percent) ...


MIN was poor in this last year, so a drop is disconcerting. However, MIN's not at the bottom of attendance, which probably means they are boosting their early attendance with cheap tickets.
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Re: MN/Det/Utah 

Post#13 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:41 pm

thats only 22 million bucks, hope their concessions are off the charts for Detroit's sake
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Re: MN/Det/Utah 

Post#14 » by post0115 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:38 pm

How about this version

MN gets: A. Kirilenko, NYK 1st
MN gives: D. Wilkins, R. Gomes, Blount, Pavlovic

Det gets: C. Boozer, R. Gomes, R. Brewer, D. Wilkins
Det gives: T. Prince, R. Hamilton

Utah gets: T. Prince, R. Hamilton, Blount, Pavlovic
Utah gives: Kirilenko, Boozer, R. Brewer, NYK 1st

MN: similar to 1st trade
Det: get low post presence in Boozer. Brewer is younger than Rip for their rebuild. Gomes and Wilkins provide good depth on the wings. I would bet they resign both Boozer and Brewer given their bird rights, but if not they will have a ton of cap room.
Utah: D. Williams, R. Hamilton, T. Prince, Millsap, Okur. They don't intend to resign Boozer, Kirilenko is a bad contract, and Sloan doesn't like R. Brewer.

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