OT - All-Star Weekend: USA vs. The World

Post #1 » by **Mr. E** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:03 am

This is an imaginary thread...

If you're like me then the All-Star Game is a boring waste of time. Granted, David Stern - for all of his faults - has not done anything dumb like having the outcome of the game decide Home Court Advantage in the Finals (looking at you, Selig!), but the game itself is pretty lame.

So....let's steal a page from Hockey!

Wait - I can see that some of you are lost. Let me explain this quickly: "Hockey" is a sport played by cold people in snowy places where players lose teeth like they were Carl Landry in the paint.

back to the topic: Let's take a page from Hockey's playbook and change the format of the All-Star Game to be a "USA vs. the World" format. This could be a great way to showcase the influx of incredible foreign talent in the NBA while perhaps goading the guys who grew up on Sportscenter Highlights to step up to the challenge!

My question to all of you is who starts for each squad and who is on the bench?

USA

PG -
SG -
SF -
PF -
C -

Bench (6 players, any position)

Not-USA

PG -
SG -
SF -
PF -
C -

Bench (6 players, any position)

Who plays what, when, where and why?

rocketsfan1 · Post #2 » by **rocketsfan1** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:19 am

USA

PG - chris paul
SG - kobe bryant
SF - carmelo anthony
PF - lebron james
C - dwight howard
dwayne wade
kevin durant
brandon roy
deron williams
amare stoudamire
joe johnson
Bench (6 players, any position)

Not-USA

PG - steve nash
SG - ben gordon
SF - dirk nowitzki
PF - pau gasol
C - tim duncan
andrew bogut
manu ginobli
tony parker
luol deng
al horford
carlos boozer
Bench (6 players, any position)
ps: i know duncan boozer etc play for usa in the olympics but all the players listed are from out of usa for example boozer-germany, ben gordon-england, and tim duncan-virgin islands

rocketsfan1 · Post #3 » by **rocketsfan1** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:22 am

i can't really explain the usa team i would just prefer kobe at the 2 carmelo at the 3 and wade off the bench...what do any body elses lineups look like?
i would prefer yao also at the 5 if he wasn't injured

VC_Fan · Post #4 » by **VC_Fan** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:02 am

Tim Duncan is from the United States Virgin Islands.

rocketsfan1 · Post #5 » by **rocketsfan1** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:21 am

which isn't a state. like puerto rico is not a state virgin islands isn't

rocketsfan1 · Post #6 » by **rocketsfan1** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:27 am

rocketsfan1 wrote:which isn't a state. like puerto rico is not a state virgin islands isn't

they are an "organized unincorporated us territory, they can't vote in presidential elections...not tryin to argue just stating facts.... all olympians from us virgin islands represent us virgin islands not the us, except tim duncan b/c there did not used to be a team

xingjianma · Post #7 » by **xingjianma** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:32 am

Virgin Islands are part of the US, so he shouldn't be in the international lineup.

This is like the All Star lineup, we're going for best talent, not the best overall team performance right?

Also, I'm not going to take injuries into consideration, or it would take away all the fun

USA

PG - Deron Williams
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Lebron James
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Dwight Howard

Bench (6 players, any position)
Chris Paul (either he or Williams can start)
Dwayne Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Amare Stoudemire
Andrew Bynum (I know any position, but there has to be at least one more big man)

Can go big with current starting lineup, or small with something like Paul/Kobe/Lebron/Carmelo/Amare, Wade and Durant can provide bench scoring.

Not-USA

PG - Steve Nash
SG - Ben Gorden
SF - Hedo Turkogulu
PF - Dirk Nowitzki
C - Yao Ming

Bench (6 players, any position)
Tony Parker
Manu Ginoboli
Peja Stojakovic (seems to be recovering this season)
Pau Gasol
Andrea Bargaini
Marc Gasol

International team have a slight advantage inside with Yao, Dirk, and the 2 Gasols. They can grind it out in half court with Yao (who I believe has never had a problem in the post against Howard) and isolate Dirk, or they can put in Bargaini at the C, surrounding Nash with shooters, and play a Suns style offense centered around Nash. Nash and Dirk or Nash and Pau pick and roll would be pretty fun to watch.

rocketsballin · Post #8 » by **rocketsballin** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:59 pm

usa team

pg - cp3
sg - kobe
sf - bron
pf - duncan
c - d12

bench
wade
melo
dwilliams
durant
amare
boozer or kaman

not usa

pg - nash
sg - ben gordon
sf - dirk
pf - pau gasol
c - marc gasol

bench
hedo
parker
deng
okur
bogut
manu

fun game to watch

rocketsfan1 · Post #9 » by **rocketsfan1** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:06 am

BOOZER IS FROM GERMANY

Rendezvous · Post #10 » by **Rendezvous** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:05 am

rocketsfan1 wrote:BOOZER IS FROM GERMANY

It's true,

but i always thought he was from Mexico

Munchlaxatives · Post #11 » by **Munchlaxatives** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:44 am

I can't get over Bogut being in the ASG.

kam_soluusar · Post #12 » by **kam_soluusar** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:58 am

Hate to have to correct you there Mr E.

Hockey is a sport played on a field, where people run around. (Incidentally Australia is one of the top 4 teams in the world at this sport!)

Ice Hockey, is played by Crazy Canucks. (Same game, played on Ice. Aussies suck at it, cause there isn't much ice around here!)

I know that us Aussies can be considered lazy, but Ice is only a three letter word.

Then again, Americans call Gridiron "Football" even though the ball actually only gets kicked about six times a game.

Like calling McLady a Basketballer, close, but no Cigar.

rocketsballin · Post #13 » by **rocketsballin** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:49 pm

roxfashoballin wrote:
if you talkin bout this year...

usa team

pg - cp3
sg - kobe
sf - bron
pf - duncan
c - d12

bench
wade
melo
dwilliams
durant
amare
kaman

not usa

pg - nash
sg - ben gordon
sf - dirk
pf - pau gasol
c - marc gasol

bench
hedo
parker
deng
bogut
manu
boozer

fun game to watch

didnt no boozer from germany

Rendezvous · Post #14 » by **Rendezvous** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:40 am

roxfashoballin wrote:
roxfashoballin wrote:
if you talkin bout this year...

usa team

pg - cp3
sg - kobe
sf - bron
pf - duncan
c - d12

bench
wade
melo
dwilliams
durant
amare
kaman

not usa

pg - nash
sg - ben gordon
sf - dirk
pf - pau gasol
c - marc gasol

bench
hedo
parker
deng
bogut
manu
boozer

fun game to watch

didnt no boozer from germany

Yup its true

Munchlaxatives · Post #15 » by **Munchlaxatives** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:56 am

DiamondX wrote:
roxfashoballin wrote:
roxfashoballin wrote:
if you talkin bout this year...

usa team

pg - cp3
sg - kobe
sf - bron
pf - duncan
c - d12

bench
wade
melo
dwilliams
durant
amare
kaman

not usa

pg - nash
sg - ben gordon
sf - dirk
pf - pau gasol
c - marc gasol

bench
hedo
parker
deng
bogut
manu
boozer

fun game to watch

didnt no boozer from germany

Yup its true

Why does he play for the US? Why did Hakeem?

glydersid · Post #16 » by **glydersid** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:33 pm

wow, i cant believe ben gordon is seen as an international player. he is as american as it gets. yes i know he was borned here in the UK, but he hasnt even played a single game with the national team.

Post #17 » by **Young_Star11** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:31 pm

USA

PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Dwight Howard

Bench
Deron Williams
Dwyane Wade
Kevin Durant
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Garnett
Amare Stoudemire

Not-USA

PG - Steve Nash (Canada)
SG - Hedo Turkoglu (Turkey)
SF - Luol Deng (England)
PF - Dirk Nowitzki (Germany)
C - Tim Duncan (US Virgin Islands)

Bench
Tony Parker (France)
Manu Ginobili (Argentina)
?
Pau Gasol (Spain)
Marc Gasol (Spain)
Al Horford (Dominican Republic)

IMO adding Duncan to the Internationals makes this (more) fair.

MaxRider · Post #18 » by **MaxRider** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:02 pm

East vs West, USA vs International are all stupid
it should be just team A vs team B
the two best players on last year Finals as team captain and pick the team
for example, last year was Kobe and Dwight
so Kobe and Dwight will pick their team and go against each other
Kobe won so he pick first

Kobe -> LeBron
Dwight -> D-Wade
...
...
...
etc

northernpuppy · Post #19 » by **northernpuppy** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:30 am

kam_soluusar wrote:Hate to have to correct you there Mr E.

Hockey is a sport played on a field, where people run around. (Incidentally Australia is one of the top 4 teams in the world at this sport!)

Ice Hockey, is played by Crazy Canucks. (Same game, played on Ice. Aussies suck at it, cause there isn't much ice around here!)

I know that us Aussies can be considered lazy, but Ice is only a three letter word.

Then again, Americans call Gridiron "Football" even though the ball actually only gets kicked about six times a game.

Like calling McLady a Basketballer, close, but no Cigar.

Field Hockey is for women and to give the commonwealth something to play during the Olympics.
I know many Australian (Ice) Hockey players most of which are extremely good because they are schooled in the U.S. or Canada. Don't be surprised if Australia slowly makes their way up in the IIHF standings.