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My Early Unrealistic Wall Scenario... 

Post#1 » by the_bruce » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:45 am

I typically don't think about this sort of thing, but I've been thinking of the draft. It's very apparent nobody will trade away Wall, but in the event MN gets lucky with Wall @ #1. We probably have the assets to move up with another team for another high lotto pick. I've often thought that while getting wall would be a blessing. It could also be a curse as we just drafted 2 pg's with high lotto picks and they become obsolete or at least less valuable to a degree.

We have:
Flynn (probably gone if MN lands wall)
Rubio Rights
Pek Rights
Cap Space
Cha Pick
Utah Pick

One team that jumps at me that would probably be willing to trade away a high pick that's not the #1 pick...

PHILLY!
1) They will be at the lux threshold next season - MN can fix this with cap space

2) They have many young players and many older Vets, what's their direction, they seem to have a good mix and solid players. They could blow it up, but some tweaks make this team a winner. Messing with the Speights/eb/iggy/young group is a bad idea. What they need is a big TPE to get another player, a recent lotto pick, and role players. They can't do a rebuild because of the length of a few long term deals, and they can't improve much because they have few movable assets.

Part #1
NY-PHI
Curry for Kopono + Green (both better fits in NYK and creates a bit more capspace)

Part #2
Curry + Pick for MN Capspace (generates a bigger TPE for PHI)

Part #3
Flynn or Sessions, Gomes(3pt shooter), Hollins(cheap defense rotational player) for Dally & opens small TPE too.

This is a big offer for PHI.
10m+ TPE (can trade for an allstar caliber player)
Recent high lotto pick that performed well this season in Flynn
Turning Dally into 3 useful players

From here MN can still make some minor moves...
Trade Curry or Dally for a different contact/better fit that is expiring. Meh?

MN still has Rubio & Pek in waiting.
The MLE? Do you still get the MLE if you trade away your cap space? I'd offer Bell the MLE with a 2nd year team option.

For MN....
Al/Dally(stop gap defensive center)
Love/Curry/Varnado(utah?)
Robinson(cha?)/Brewer
Turner(phi) or Johnson/Bell
Wall(mn)/Sessions

Now we have some fairly valuable packages.
Dally and/or Curry + Rubio = ???
Dally and/or Curry + Pek = ???
Al = ???
Al + Rubio = ???
Sessions ???
Wait for 2011 FA class?

This is the sort of move I'd do only in the event MN gets the #1 pick. It seems like overpayment, but is about fair when you consider Flynn's perceived value will diminish. We have a strong young lineup, to go along with lots of leftover highly liquid assets.

For Philly it looks like this...
Flynn + Quality SG from cap space + Bench Support for Dally + Kopono + Green + pick
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Re: My Early Unrealistic Wall Scenario... 

Post#2 » by hotshotschamp » Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:01 am

Well I'd love to get Turner and Wall somehow......

But starting 3 rookies is a good way to end up picking top 3 again.

I'd be happy with aquiring 2 top 8 type talents in this draft using picks or prospects....and calling it a day.

Then see if anyone wants that utah or charlotte pick if we got them, and trade them to bad teams for future years with limited protections if any. After all in a couple years we wont have the clippers pick.

If they somehow get #1 pick and land Wall, and can add a Turner/henry/johnson to that mix...draft day would be AMAZING.
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Re: My Early Unrealistic Wall Scenario... 

Post#3 » by AQuintus » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:11 am

I don't understand why we would need to take back both Curry and Dally. Flynn + cap space for Dally and their pick seems like more than good enough to me. As for the rest of the post, I'm not sure Wall and Jefferson fit especially well. Wall is a big time slasher and Al clogs the paint. On top of that, Love would be the best three point shooter on the team for the second year in a row. Our spacing would be horrible.
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Re: My Early Unrealistic Wall Scenario... 

Post#4 » by Tekkenlaw » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:18 am

hotshotschamp wrote:But starting 3 rookies is a good way to end up picking top 3 again.
PG. John Wall
SG. Evan Turner
SF. Harrison Barnes
PF. Kevin Love
C. Al Jefferson

Oh wait, when does the wolves pick become unprotected?
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Re: My Early Unrealistic Wall Scenario... 

Post#5 » by Ojmayo » Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:03 am

Tekkenlaw wrote:
hotshotschamp wrote:But starting 3 rookies is a good way to end up picking top 3 again.
PG. John Wall
SG. Evan Turner
SF. Harrison Barnes
PF. Kevin Love
C. Al Jefferson

Oh wait, when does the wolves pick become unprotected?


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