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[New Article] Minnesota one of Tmac's landing spot?

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[New Article] Minnesota one of Tmac's landing spot? 

Post#1 » by Mcfale313 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:41 am

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/12/29/are- ... ibilities/

With the news that the Rockets and Tracy McGrady have decided to separate, the next step is finding the aging All-Star a new home for the season. It's a tricky situation, with Houston unlikely to take on much long-term salary without decent talent coming back, and with few teams willing to give up valuable assets for McGrady's slowing game and massive expiring contract.

But there are a few options out there. Keep in mind that these are ideas, not rumors.

Solving Problems in Chicago?

Chicago has been a frequent mention with regard to McGrady, and there are a couple deals which might make sense. One fairly simple idea would swap McGrady for three expiring-contract Bulls: Brad Miller, Tyrus Thomas and John Salmons. The trade keeps Chicago under the luxury tax threshold, while adding less than $1 million to Houston's payroll.

It seems like the Bulls are giving up too much talent for what is essentially an expiring contract, right? But losing Salmons and Thomas actually clears up a few things for Chicago. Salmons has an early termination option this summer many believe he will invoke, becoming an unrestricted free agent. Salmons is owed $5.8 million next season should he skip the termination option, and that's a vital $5.8 million for Chicago, who hopes to be far enough under the salary cap to offer a player like Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh a maximum contract. If Salmons, who has been awful this year, keeps the $5.8 million contract alive, the Bulls have little chance of freeing up enough cash for a max player. One assumes the team would like to go into late June without the Salmons question hanging over its head.

Thomas, while talented, is a similar problem for the Bulls. Even if Salmons opts out, Chicago would be faced with potentially being forced to renounce the team's rights to Thomas in order to sign a max player. Thomas would then become an unrestricted free agent (instead of a restricted free agent, in which case Chicago could match any offer sheet he signs). It's no secret Chicago and Thomas have issues, and few expect the team to pay much to keep the forward around beyond this season. Miller would also be a cap hold issue, though his Bird rights aren't nearly as valuable as those of Thomas.

Why does Houston take a small amount of additional payroll to swing this deal? Well, Thomas could be a valuable player going forward if he works out in the Rockets system. Salmons (if he gets right) adds scoring punch. If he continues to play poorly, he is (worst case) a $5.8 million back-up next season. Miller thrived under Adelman in Sacramento, and could augment the frontline attack nicely this spring.

I'm not sure a few months of McGrady and removing the Salmons risk is enough incentive for Chicago, but it's certainly a deal Houston could live with.

Temporary Boost for the Wolves?

Minnesota has no designs on a playoff run this season, but the team's backcourt scoring has been so atrocious that a midseason boost could actually add some respectability. It could send expiring contracts Mark Blount, Damien Wilkins and Brian Cardinal to the Rockets for McGrady. This deal gets Houston out from under the luxury tax without putting the Wolves over the threshold. That's a big win for Houston, roughly a $11-13 million swing when you account for tax savings plus the added pay-out non-tax teams receive.

Minnesota would trade two useless players (sorry, Mark and Brian) and one player who should have a bit part only for a famous name with a (formerly) jaw-dropping game. I'm not sure McGrady's Bird rights (which Minnesota would gain) are valuable. But they are certainly more valuable than those of Blount, Cardinal and Wilkins.


Uniting the Chinese Stars?

New Jersey's interest in McGrady comes in two threads: the Nets will do anything to sell a ticket, and an incarnation of this idea would actually clear even more summertime cap room for the franchise. In this instance, New Jersey would give up on Yi Jianlian, a once-promising import acquired for Richard Jefferson. Houston would acquire Yi, Bobby Simmons (an expiring contract) and Tony Battie (a useful defensive center with an expiring contract).

Yi has played only six games for the disastrous Nets this season. While interim coach Kiki Vandeweghe is a big Yi fan, McGrady might be a decent boost for the final few months of East Rutherford and the Chinese forward is on the books for $4 million next season. Houston, I imagine, would be happy to take on the project, especially with Yao Ming and a fantastic marketing relationship with the Middle Kingdom in place.


I'm no fan of Tmac, but I'd do that Cardinal, Wilkens, Blount for Tmac trade coz we don't have to give up Gomes
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Re: [New Article] Minnesota one of Tmac's landing spot? 

Post#2 » by shrink » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:44 am

I'd do the trade without Gomes.

HOU better send back $3 mil of that $12 mil in savings our way.
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Post#3 » by shangrila » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:48 am

I don't know about that. While I wouldn't mind having a look at McGrady and, well, winning a little more, that will eventually hurt us come draft time. There's not much of a reason to make their pick worse just to give McGrady a run when he clearly doesn't fit into their longterm plans.
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Post#4 » by Krapinsky » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:52 am

shrink wrote:I'd do the trade without Gomes.

HOU better send back $3 mil of that $12 mil in savings our way.


I was surprised to see that works in the trade checker. Maybe we make them take Sasha instead of Gomes. Houston saves lots of money (more than if they would buy out McGrady).

I don't see how any Wolves fan could say no to this. Worst case scenario is that McGrady's knee goes out again and insurance picks up the tab.
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Re: [New Article] Minnesota one of Tmac's landing spot? 

Post#5 » by Calinks » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:27 am

If McGrady can hit a three. I'm ok with it.
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Post#6 » by Klomp » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:43 am

I'd do it with Gomes
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Post#7 » by southern wolf » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:49 am

I'd do the first trade. Although I don't think T-mac would be happy with it at all, not that he has much of a choice.
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Post#8 » by slinky » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:59 am

If we think he might stay here next year(provided he is decent), otherwise I see no real reason to develop or let McGrady find his game here for the rest of the year. It will only take minutes away from Brewer and Ellington.
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Post#9 » by The J Rocka » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:06 am

"Whoever gets me is going to get a hungry ... player. I don't care if I go to the damn moon. It doesn't matter. I've been hungry since I came back from my surgery."

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I think he would choose Minny over the moon, but im not sure :)
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Post#10 » by deeney0 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:31 am

Gomes or not I'd do it, but I'd prefer with.
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Post#11 » by cpfsf » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:50 am

I think McGrady could be a decent addition to the team. He's going to sell tickets regardless.
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Post#12 » by Klomp » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:01 am

slinky wrote:If we think he might stay here next year(provided he is decent), otherwise I see no real reason to develop or let McGrady find his game here for the rest of the year. It will only take minutes away from Brewer and Ellington.


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Post#13 » by Ojmayo » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:02 am

I'm for it.
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Post#14 » by big3_8_19_21 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:04 am

Not a bad idea...he would sell tickets, wouldn't cut into our cap space next summer and probably really wouldn't get us many more wins. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to win some games, but if we win too many this season, we'll just lose our pick and miss the playoffs.
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Post#15 » by big3_8_19_21 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:05 am

slinky wrote:If we think he might stay here next year(provided he is decent), otherwise I see no real reason to develop or let McGrady find his game here for the rest of the year. It will only take minutes away from Brewer and Ellington.


But what are the chances that McGrady plays more than 20 games this year...and if we get them under the tax, we could probably get a free 2nd round pick out of it (and probably cash considerations).
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Post#16 » by Devilzsidewalk » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:44 am

I'd make the trade and gamble on his health, he is only 30 afterall, who knows, maybe we get lucky for once.
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Post#17 » by jade_hippo » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:54 am

there are plenty of minutes for Brewer and Ellington, especially if Gomes is included. KRam has been very picky with letting Ellington extended minutes, and thats not bad, he's got a lot of work to do and won't be "productive" for another season or two, and letting Ellington and Brewer learn from TMac probably couldn't hurt either.
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Post#18 » by Esohny » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:25 am

Think there's any chance we could get a future 1st out of this if we include Gomes?
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Post#19 » by Klomp » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:30 am

Esohny wrote:Think there's any chance we could get a future 1st out of this if we include Gomes?


Knowing Kahn, theres a chance.
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Post#20 » by Woomanchu » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:05 am

Part of me wants to see it go down because it would give us a good preview of how Love and Al would play with a terrific wing, but the other part of me really wants to get a Top 5 pick because I don't think McGrady will be a long term solution and his injury history is questionable.

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