Officlal Prospect thread

john2jer · Post #461 » by **john2jer** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:12 pm

Foye wrote:
john2jer wrote:
Foye wrote:You better hope he is not!!!

Ariza: 37.5% FG, 31.9% 3PT, 65.7% FT, 16 FGA/Game.

Seriously? It's tough to tell if people are joking, or clueless sometimes. I know like 90% of what I say is completely joking, so it's tough tell for me, but come on...

I think it's pretty obvious when anyone mentions Trevor Ariza/James Posey they're talking about Ariza with the Lakers last year, and Posey with the Celtics the year before. They're talking about that 6th-7th man spark plug off the bench that can play good defense, and knock down open shots because there's little attention on them. Or fills the role as the 5th starter.

I knew what you meant but I couldn't avoid making a little side blow on how Ariza is playing this season.
I'm probably a Brewer homer. I think he can provide those things now if he was given the possibility.
He's been forced to shoot more than he should on our team due to lack of a quality wing with range. He's not as good as Posey was knocking down that open shot, especially not from 3-PT range but he can provide the defense and run the fast break and once in a while he hits a jump shot(and you see it more often lately). I agree with you that he must improve his jump shot but I wouldn't necessary say that Ariza was far superior knocking down open shots. At least not in the few games I saw the Lakers last season.

So it sounds like we agree. Ariza, Posey, and Brewer should never be a top option for a team, but all three have a TON of value as that 5-7 man on a team that has a couple other offensive focal points. Brewer's playing much better lately, but stick a top level wing next to him and I think Brewer becomes an embarrassment of riches type. He'd be excellent if all he had to worry about was hustle, defense, rebounding, and chipping in garbage/fast-break buckets.

shangrila · Post #462 » by **shangrila** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:00 am

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:
shangrila wrote:No offence but I have to disagree. Right now the team is a horrible shooting team and adding players that can't shoot, even bench players, doesn't help to remedy that. Both Ariza and Posey were able to play the roles they could because they played good defence, helped move the ball and could knock down the open shots. Right now Smith can only do 2 of those things and when you're already playing such a limited role you can end up hurting the team more.

If you're looking for a Posey type of player try having a look at Damion James. He's a capable shooter when placed with a half decent point guard and his athleticism helps him to defend multiple positions.

I like Damion James too. JonG has replied to some of my tweets asking about him, and apparently is not a fan. If he falls to the 2nd round he seems like he'll be another no-brainer pick to me.

Yeah, I can understand why he wouldn't like him too. He's basically an undersized power forward that hasn't improved any of his weaknesses during his 4 years in college. But if he's there with one of the later picks he'd be a nice get although I'd probably ask him to play overseas for a few years as they'd probably have drafted 4 rookies by then and wouldn't be looking to add anymore.

The other player I've been looking at is Trevor Booker. I know he doesn't look like a must have prospect, especially for Minnesota, but he's been falling a little and if they could pick him up with their 1st 2nd rounder his intensity would be a welcome edition to the team, even if it's just during practice.

Foye · Post #463 » by **Foye** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:15 am

We shouldn't be talking about 2nd round prospects here. I think it is predictable that our 2nd round pick a) gets traded, b) stays in Europe, c) gets assigned to the D-League for a whole year or d) does not even make the roster.

slinky · Post #464 » by **slinky** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:48 pm

shangrila wrote:The other player I've been looking at is Trevor Booker. I know he doesn't look like a must have prospect, especially for Minnesota, but he's been falling a little and if they could pick him up with their 1st 2nd rounder his intensity would be a welcome edition to the team, even if it's just during practice.

Just a side note, by season's end we will only have one 2nd round pick. The other two are going elsewhere. Draftexpress has that we will have 3 2nd's and that is true right now but by the end of the year more than likely we will only have HOU's 2nd this year.

shangrila · Post #465 » by **shangrila** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:33 am

Is this a prediction or is it a fact? Like have they traded the picks already or something? Just curious, because I'm not 100% sure about it tbh.

slinky · Post #466 » by **slinky** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:15 am

shangrila wrote:Is this a prediction or is it a fact? Like have they traded the picks already or something? Just curious, because I'm not 100% sure about it tbh.

See newly created thread...

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=972057

shangrila · Post #467 » by **shangrila** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:50 am

I forgot about that Oklahoma trade. Why oh why they had to include what looks to be a decent 2nd round pick in that useless trade is beyond me.

Post #468 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:59 pm

Devin Ebanks had another impressive statistical performance last night 19 points 8 board and 4 assists against Marquette, on Saturday he had 22 17 and 7.

Foye · Post #469 » by **Foye** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:54 pm

shangrila wrote:I forgot about that Oklahoma trade. Why oh why they had to include what looks to be a decent 2nd round pick in that useless trade is beyond me.

Because we can't pick up half a dozen players in a draft?

shangrila · Post #470 » by **shangrila** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:38 pm

Then give them one of the worse picks?

the_bruce · Post #471 » by **the_bruce** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:59 am

absurd...

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sp ... e_building

Post #472 » by **revprodeji** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:58 am

Worm Guts wrote:Devin Ebanks had another impressive statistical performance last night 19 points 8 board and 4 assists against Marquette, on Saturday he had 22 17 and 7.

Did you watch him? Does he look like a SF or a hybrid pf?

horaceworthy · Post #473 » by **horaceworthy** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:20 am

Ebanks is a SF. He started to help run the offense towards the end of last year, and this year WVU doesn't use a traditional PG that often, so he and Da'Sean Butler initiate the offense most of the time. He's kind of Tay Prince-ish, but a more explosive athlete.

Foye · Post #474 » by **Foye** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:35 am

the_bruce wrote:absurd...

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sp ... e_building

He's great.

Post #475 » by **Worm Guts** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:25 pm

revprodeji wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Devin Ebanks had another impressive statistical performance last night 19 points 8 board and 4 assists against Marquette, on Saturday he had 22 17 and 7.

Did you watch him? Does he look like a SF or a hybrid pf?

I watched him on Saturday, I wasn't paying too close attention but I thought he looked like a 3/4. Enough skills to play the 3, but a little more comfortable inside.

john2jer · Post #476 » by **john2jer** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:49 pm

Foye wrote:
the_bruce wrote:absurd...

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sp ... e_building

He's great.

That was pretty awesome. I think he tea-bagged a cheerleader on that jump.

Post #477 » by **revprodeji** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:34 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
revprodeji wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Devin Ebanks had another impressive statistical performance last night 19 points 8 board and 4 assists against Marquette, on Saturday he had 22 17 and 7.

Did you watch him? Does he look like a SF or a hybrid pf?

I watched him on Saturday, I wasn't paying too close attention but I thought he looked like a 3/4. Enough skills to play the 3, but a little more comfortable inside.

Kind of like Thad Young?

horaceworthy · Post #478 » by **horaceworthy** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:07 pm

More fluid than Thad, but not as explosive. He's much more comfortable on the perimeter than Thad was in college (when it looked like GTech was trying to fit a square peg in a round hole). He doesn't have much range on his jumper, but he's got a smooth handle, enough so that he's been used in a distributor/initiator role. More of a smaller, skinnier, Kardashian-free Odom than Thad.

Post #479 » by **revprodeji** » Sat Jan 2, 2010 8:41 am

hmm. How is his shot? Not just 3's but his 15-18? I notice that in our offense the SF tends to get that baseline 15-18 a lot.

Could this kid be a big target with the char pick? (ironically dx has him at our pick) I read he is a project, but with potential. Maybe a Warrick/Outlaw cross? Looks good off the bench.

I still feel Turner should be our goal. He would be perfect in this system. But I think that we need 2 wing guys to make the jump and Ebanks might be a nice fit.

btw, right now DX has our draft as

2--Derrick Favors
13--Ebanks
20-Greg Monroe

I hope we consolidate some assets, but I can handle that.

shangrila · Post #480 » by **shangrila** » Sat Jan 2, 2010 8:58 am

I still like the idea of trying to move up with Charlotte's pick to get Wesley Johnson. He provides some of the things that the team needs (shooting, athleticism, defence, etc) and could eventually be a starter. Although if Ebanks is a half decent playmaker then he could be intriguing in the triangle.

What do people think of Ekpe Udoh with Utah's pick?