2010 Draft

[orecchio14]

One guy this offseason can change the landscape and the direction of this franchise (realistically that is.) The player the Nets need to land is John Wall.
John Wall is a 2-3 per generation type talent. He will immediately be the most athletic point guard in the NBA (and that includes Derrick Rose) with great size and a knack for the clutch already at 18 years old!!
John Wall is the guy you build a franchise around. A guy who can eventually sell out the swamp with highlight real play after highlight real play. If you were going to build a point guard from scratch...this is the guy. Pair him with Brooke Lopez, package Harris with the Dallas pick and ship him to a team in need of a Point Guard that might be willing to part with a wing player, and then grab a banger in free agency and thats a nice, competitive, young team that would be fun to watch and put bodies into that empty gym!

[Rockice_8]

Yi's been playing well in his few games back from injury. We need Wall so bad, I can't take another let down from this team, I've been through too much. I think it's pretty clear we all want Wall and to move Harris for another young player or to get back into the lottery.

[ecuhus1981]

Someone explain to me how Speights is a chucker? The guy averages 14/6 a game in 24 minutes a game of work and shoots 55% from the field and takes just over 10 shots a game. The kid is in his 2nd season and is putting up very solid numbers. If he develops a consistent 15-18' jumper, he's basically perfect next to Brook. Calling him a chucker is laughable in my opinion. He's been lights out since he's come back from injury.

Your definition of the term chucker is skewed. Your entire post perfectly describes a chucker, albeit an effective one.

"Chucker" doesn't mean inefficient, which it seems YOU think it means. Marreese is concerned only with scoring while he's on the floor. Even Brand called him out this week; he puts no effort into passing, rebounding, defense or any of the little things that make you a complete bigman. I'll take my chances with ANY of the PFs in the lottery over him, thanks.

As for the draft, yeah, I'd love to have Wall, but a bruising athlete like Favors wouldn't be a bad consolation prize at all. Monteijunas and Turner are a bit redundant with what we already have, but Evan is too special to be overly concerned with that. For the Dallas pick, if Lance Stephenson opts out, I'd take a flier on him. Otherwise, I wouldn't look to add a swingman, focusing instead on a shot-blocking PF/C like Varnado/Sanders/Benson, or a versatile SF/PF like Ebanks (if he continues to drop)/Robinson. Our 2nd could be a BPA, since most of our needs will be filled.

[Preludepunk27]

Someone explain to me how Speights is a chucker? The guy averages 14/6 a game in 24 minutes a game of work and shoots 55% from the field and takes just over 10 shots a game. The kid is in his 2nd season and is putting up very solid numbers. If he develops a consistent 15-18' jumper, he's basically perfect next to Brook. Calling him a chucker is laughable in my opinion. He's been lights out since he's come back from injury.

Your definition of the term chucker is skewed. Your entire post perfectly describes a chucker, albeit an effective one.

"Chucker" doesn't mean inefficient, which it seems YOU think it means. Marreese is concerned only with scoring while he's on the floor. Even Brand called him out this week; he puts no effort into passing, rebounding, defense or any of the little things that make you a complete bigman. I'll take my chances with ANY of the PFs in the lottery over him, thanks.

As for the draft, yeah, I'd love to have Wall, but a bruising athlete like Favors wouldn't be a bad consolation prize at all. Monteijunas and Turner are a bit redundant with what we already have, but Evan is too special to be overly concerned with that. For the Dallas pick, if Lance Stephenson opts out, I'd take a flier on him. Otherwise, I wouldn't look to add a swingman, focusing instead on a shot-blocking PF/C like Varnado/Sanders/Benson, or a versatile SF/PF like Ebanks (if he continues to drop)/Robinson. Our 2nd could be a BPA, since most of our needs will be filled.

Yes I'd take a chance on a big man in the lottery instead of overpaying for him, but the definition of a chucker is SOLELY based on offensive efficiency. You make him sound like he's the 2nd coming of Zach Randolph when the kid barely gets 10 shots a game and is main role is scoring off the bench until the rest of his still raw fundamentals come around.You can call him overrated, inept or a one dimensional player, but a chucker has 100% nothing to do with defense. The term was developed thanks to guys like Starbury who'd "chuck" 25 shots a game up, convert on low 40% or less and the team still loses. I see absolutely zero correlation between the term Chucker and Speights. Elton Brand shouldn't talk about anyone's game now that he is one of the most overrated players in the NBA in terms of his contract now.

But back the draft. I still want to see more of John Wall. I've seen him in 2 games, liked what I've seen. He's obviously gonna be drafted top 3 easy. I want to see him improve his jumper as the season goes along. I'm going for Favors as of right now though. That kid is a stud. Evan Turner is the most underrated lottery player. He is a potential game changer on the wing, but I don't think the Nets would draft him unless we felt we COULDN'T pass him up.

As of the rest of the pack, there are a handful I'd look at, but it's still to early in the season to tell in my opinon.

[Rockice_8]

Did anyone catch Wall the other night setting the KU school record for assists. He's set himself up for #1 hands down. Along the way he also threw down a reverse ally along the baseline. His athletism is off the charts, he makes others better (unlike Harris) and he hawks the ball like crazy with his long arms and quick feet. I really don't care what Turner does (he looks great) but it's Wall or bust this kid is gonna be a superstar.

[S.I.C. GM]

Did anyone catch Wall the other night setting the KU school record for assists. He's set himself up for #1 hands down. Along the way he also threw down a reverse ally along the baseline. His athletism is off the charts, he makes others better (unlike Harris) and he hawks the ball like crazy with his long arms and quick feet. I really don't care what Turner does (he looks great) but it's Wall or bust this kid is gonna be a superstar.

I saw that game. If we dont get the #1 pick, I would give our #1 and Dallas' for him.

Wall is the real deal. I watch some of his passes. This kid does everything right. Did u see when he got the last assist? He shook everyone's hand even non players. Then his team mate Cousins started a JOHN WALL CHEER. His teammates LOVE him.

JOHN WALL is a MOST HAVE!!!!!

I like Harris but A DRAFT NIGHT TRADE may be possible.

[Preludepunk27]

Cousins shouldn't come out this year, but he probably will. I'd be interested in that kid if he fell to Dallas's pick. I know it's early in the season, but that kid needs another year in college.

As good as Wall is from the games I've watched, I'm still holding out until after the season is over to say who I'd want top 3. I want to see a whole body of work.

[deviljets7]

Did anyone catch Wall the other night setting the KU school record for assists. He's set himself up for #1 hands down. Along the way he also threw down a reverse ally along the baseline. His athletism is off the charts, he makes others better (unlike Harris) and he hawks the ball like crazy with his long arms and quick feet. I really don't care what Turner does (he looks great) but it's Wall or bust this kid is gonna be a superstar.

I saw the whole game also (when else is my alma mata Hartford going to be on ESPN?) and Wall was incredible last night.

If we're fortunate enough to win the lottery, you ttry to use Harris and if necessary the DAL pick to trade back into the lottery.

[Preludepunk27]

He's had solid games against quality competition, but I did forget they played Hartford last night. I'll still give him props, but we're talking about Hartford.

Hopefully you don't take that as a dig on your alma mater too much Devil. For what it's worth, I went to Elon. We've been on national TV one time in school history. If we played Kentucky, John Wall probably would have set a college record for most assists in a game.

[orecchio14]

Again last night we all saw it...John Wall is must see tv.
SCARY GOOD! If the team wants to generate any interest in this franchise...realistically John Wall is our last hope!
I think one thing the Nets have going for them is the fact that the second worst team (recod-wise) in the NBA will likely trade out of this pick due to the fact that they already have Flynn and Rubio is stashed overseas.

[Pugsley_2491]

There's no question that if we get the #1 it's Wall hands-down
However it gets interesting after that

#2 I feel is between Favors/Turner (I'm leaning towards Favors for this, but it can all change depending on our season and the college season)
#3 would be the other of the two (For me right now would be Turner)

Those are the top 3 LOCKS, after that it gets messy

#4 I would take Willie Warren. I'm with 60cent on this one, Warren really intrigues me. Great scorer and we need actual scorers on this team. Would solve a lot of our holes.

#5 Is tough for me. It's between Patterson, Davis, and Aminu. I am leaning towards Patterson due to the fact that I don't really want to spend the pick on a project player. This team needs an impact player who can step right onto the court and play. Patterson is a bruiser and would be a great pair with Lopez, or a great bench player as the first big off the bench.

I don't want Montiejunas, I feel we have that in Yi. Cole Aldrich would be a nice pick, if we didn't have Lopez.


If we get someone like Warren or Wall, I would really like to move Harris for a pick to snag Xavier Henry. His shooting would be great on this team.

With that said, if we end up with something like the 5th pick (worst case scenario) I would really consider moving down in the draft to grab Xavier Henry. a backcourt of Harris and Henry would be very good for this team as they would compliment each other perfectly. Harris drives and dishes out to Henry for the 3. And Henry's shooting ability would really help to spread the floor since this team really lacks shooters.

[deviljets7]

He's had solid games against quality competition, but I did forget they played Hartford last night. I'll still give him props, but we're talking about Hartford.

Hopefully you don't take that as a dig on your alma mater too much Devil. For what it's worth, I went to Elon. We've been on national TV one time in school history. If we played Kentucky, John Wall probably would have set a college record for most assists in a game.

No offense taken at all prelude. They are a middle of the pack (at best) team in a conference that is probably in the 20-25 range in the country.

The things that made the performance amazing was 1.) just some of the additional examples of his absolutely freakish athleticism and 2.) That he had only 1 turnover to go with the 16 assists. That's pretty incredible regardless of the opponent.

[NOODLESTYLE]

2nd round...Jeremy Lin, perhaps?

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[vincecarter4pres]

Evan Turner is back and he is tearing ish up!

[60cent]

I'd rather have him than favors. Favors is a project and im not willing to take that gamble at this time. We cannot afford to make another mistake on draft day and just pick the surefire player. We need a player like Pierce, Granger, Anthony, Carter stature, and Turner is gonna be that. Maybe a better rebounder and playmaker than them.

But if we somehow land the number 1 pick with our 25% chance... of course no question, we pick Wall.

[60cent]

I'd rather have him than favors. Favors is a project and im not willing to take that gamble at this time. We cannot afford to make another mistake on draft day and just pick the surefire player. We need a player like Pierce, Granger, Anthony, Carter stature, and Turner is gonna be that. Maybe a better rebounder and playmaker than them.

But if we somehow land the number 1 pick with our 25% chance... of course no question, we pick Wall.