Atlanta 21-9 (9-6 V) @ Cleveland 25-8 (12-2 H)

[Retrovision]

WWE or NBA ?

[Hawkeyes]

Well that sucked. I hope the team uses the last two games as motivation to redouble their effort rather than fall apart. Either result is a true possibility though.

That clock screwup did highly impact the game (probably more than it should have). We should protest the game, but I doubt we get the replay that was granted to Miami against us last year.

0% chance we get a replay. If the screwup affected Cleveland, no doubt it'd happen, but it affected us, therefore it won't occur.

[dms269]

Well that sucked. I hope the team uses the last two games as motivation to redouble their effort rather than fall apart. Either result is a true possibility though.

That clock screwup did highly impact the game (probably more than it should have). We should protest the game, but I doubt we get the replay that was granted to Miami against us last year.

Here is what Stern ruled on that case:
"NBA Commissioner David Stern found that the Hawks were grossly negligent in committing this scoring error, since they failed to follow league-mandated scoring procedures and failed to respond effectively when the members of the statisticians' crew noticed the mistake. Because of this conduct by Atlanta's personnel, Miami suffered a clear competitive disadvantage, as O'Neal - the Heat's second leading scorer and rebounder that night - was removed from a one-point game with only 51.9 seconds remaining. Under this unprecedented set of circumstances, the Commissioner granted the Heat's protest, and fined the Hawks $50,000 for their violation of league rules."
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... is-granted

I see a ton of similarities. Close game, gross negligence.

[dms269]

WWE or NBA ?

I feel sorry for Brett Hart if he is a Hawks fan.

[ATL DirtyBird]

I would think we deserve a replay but I dont know what it takes to get that.

[tontoz]

The Cavs took 23 more foul shots. That is just ridiculous.

However the Hawks need to get something out of Smith/Horford to beat the top 3 teams in the east. I was screaming at the TV when Smith took a jumper in crunch time. Horford had 7 field goals and 6 turnovers in the two games. That just sucks.

[HoopsGuru25]

There won't be a replay. The reason Stern gave Miami a replay and fined the Hawks is because the HAWKS employees screwed Toronto out of a basket during the previous year and the HAWKS employees took the foul away from Shaq. There was already precedent. It's not like the Cavs time keepers intentionally didn't reset the shot clock...that happens during every game. The refs are in charge of stopping play in resetting the shot clock. The refs were also in charge of the awful officiating prior to that.

This is basically the Chargers/Broncos game in 2008. The league will admit that the refs made a mistake and move on.

[oikosnomos]

Hey guys, Cavs fan. You guys have legitimate beef with the shot clock error in this game. Your team played really well and deserved a better shot at winning this game then you got. Not being patronizing or anything, but even though it doesn't count as a win for you I definitely have new found respect for your team. They look scary and I don't want to face you in the playoffs.

Again, doesn't give you a count in the win column but I think you have a lot to be happy about in this game.

[Retrovision]

I rather lose by 30 then get beat at the buzzer.

[ATL DirtyBird]

All in all we should of closed this game but the predictability and requirements of Joe to be amazing due to our poor half court offense killed us. All close games we will live and die by Joe who needs to be great for us to win these types of games.

[Retrovision]

I thought we were done with the iso-joe days. Guess not.

[johnny878]

speechless...

[oikosnomos]

I thought we were done with the iso-joe days. Guess not.

Do you guys think there will be redo of the game? It happened with you guys and the Heat a few years back.

[HoopsGuru25]

There will be no re-do. The refs had a chance to do that and didn't. You can't re-do games based on bad calls/decisions by the refs.

[parson]

Hey guys, Cavs fan. You guys have legitimate beef with the shot clock error in this game. Your team played really well and deserved a better shot at winning this game then you got. Not being patronizing or anything, but even though it doesn't count as a win for you I definitely have new found respect for your team. They look scary and I don't want to face you in the playoffs.

Again, doesn't give you a count in the win column but I think you have a lot to be happy about in this game.

Thanks for the kind words. I also appreciate that y'all's board is taking this game with a grain of salt. Maybe one day the NBA will let the players play.

Your name is interesting, however. I took Greek years ago, so I'm rusty, but I believe it means "economics." But literally, doesn't it mean "house rules"? Tonight that's somewhat appropriate.

[Hawkeyes]

That game was awful. I just hope the Hawks can get over it emotionally, and take care of the Knicks. It's hard for me to swallow because I believe the refs played a huge role, and it's hard for many Hawk fans to deal with, but hopefully the team can recover. That game felt like a playoff game.

[fo_o_fo_404]

The Hawks will file a protest with the league office in reference to the shot clock violation.

If the protest is successful, which it should be, the game would be replayed from the moment the infraction was made, which was before the Varaejo three point basket.

I remember oh so vividly the game the league made us replay with a Shaq-less Miami team (Shaq had been traded to Phoenix at the trade dealine).

I dodn't see how this protest isn't granted because it was blatantly obvious that the timekeepers in Cleveland screwed up.

We shall see what happens

[HoopsGuru25]

Again....The Hawks were fined and forced to replay the Miami game because there was precedent from them screwing another team(Toronto)and it was the Hawks employees who gave Shaq an additional foul. Clevelands time keepers did not reset the shot clock...but that happens in nearly every game. The refs didn't notice it*which they are supposed to)...nor did they correct it when Woodson alerted them about 30 seconds later.

[Hawkeyes]

Again....The Hawks were fined and forced to replay the Miami game because there was precedent from them screwing another team(Toronto)and it was the Hawks employees who gave Shaq an additional foul. Clevelands time keepers did not reset the shot clock...but that happens in nearly every game. The refs didn't notice it*which they are supposed to)...nor did they correct it when Woodson alerted them about 30 seconds later.

Yeah, I have to agree. If they didn't correct it at the time, then I doubt they will correct it in the future.