Wyc and Danny knew what they was getting........

[Kefa461]

Bad news for the NBA. Rasheed Wallace is getting the Tim Donaghy book. “I want to check it out and see what’s there,” Wallace said last night. Wallace already has been fined once for criticizing referees this season ($30,000), and as reported in Tuesday’s Herald, he lucked out on another occasion when the league didn’t want to bring more attention to the claims of Donaghy, the former official convicted of gambling. Boston Herald

Celts GM Danny Ainge passed on word to Wallace from the NBA that he should watch his critical statements, but the forward won’t bow to the request. “Either way they’re going to get me,” Wallace said. “If I don’t say nothing I’m going to get fined, and if I say something I’m going to get fined. So I might as well say something about what’s on my mind, what I want to say. They’re going to hit me up either way. I’ve been through that before in Portland. When I wasn’t talking to the media they were fining me. But then when I did talk to the media they didn’t like what I had to say, so they fined me some more. So I was like, ‘Well, (expletive), if you’re going to fine me I might as well say what the hell I want to say.’ ” Boston Herald

Asked if that concerned him, Wallace said, “I still play my game. I’m not going to be on pins and needles thinking about, ‘Oh, I can’t say nothing because I might get a tech and they’re going to suspend me.’ Man, that’s part of my game. I ain’t worried about that. “The last two teams I’ve been on, here and Detroit, after they made up the Sheed Wallace rule about the techs and the suspensions, this team is talented enough and that Detroit team was talented enough to win a game without me.. . . . It’s like being injured where you might have a little stinger so you’ve got to sit out a game or two. It’s like that. What’s your team going to do then? They’re going to step up.” Boston Herald

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/bas ... ion=recent


The C's knew what they were getting and are dealing with it and IMO we as fans need to deal with it too.....he's ours now.

[JSABleedsGreen]

I know people will disagree with me but I like Wallace's attitude. It's a man's game and who has the right to tell him what he can or cannot say. No one, not even Stern.

How many of you guys play hoops and have encountered referees who call everything the wrong way. I'm sure everyone.....I've had my run-ins with refs too, plenty of arguements and disagreements. I even had one threaten me, like physically threaten me in front of everyone so i knocked his ass out cold, right on the court.

I do understand that the whole Donaghy situation is a bit sticky but come on, how many of you guys out there think that Stern and the NBA covered up a little more than what was let out? I do.....I'm sure Stern knew, just didn't want to point it out. Nothing in this world is a secret anymore, too many eyes and mouths.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I do understand that the whole Donaghy situation is a bit sticky but come on, how many of you guys out there think that Stern and the NBA covered up a little more than what was let out? I do.....I'm sure Stern knew, just didn't want to point it out. Nothing in this world is a secret anymore, too many eyes and mouths.

I definitely think so. If they've been fining Rasheed for every complaint he's made through the media, then why not fine him for those last comments? David Stern is trying to sweep this junk under the rug. I'm surprised none of the owners have come forth and demanded an inquiry. Shoot, look at what happened with baseball and steroids. Using performance-enhancing drugs is far less serious than rigging the outcome of games IMO.

[Jammer]

I think that the Union should take an extremely hard line in the next CBA negotiation about the leeway players have in commenting about referee performance.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I think that the Union should take an extremely hard line in the next CBA negotiation about the leeway players have in commenting about referee performance.

Yup. I think so too. Does anyone remember the exact time when the NBA started fining players/coaches for complaining about the officiating? Does any other sport do this?

[SichtingLives]

Rasheed is kind of like the next generation Charles Barkley....good or bad he'll speak his mind and tell the truth even it's not pc or vogue to say the things he does. And honestly I think Sheed is the more intelligent of the two.

I have no problem with him running his mouth to reporters about whatever he wants so long as he doesn't mind paying the fines. If David Stern had the ability to be honest in the same way Rasheed does he'd be a better man for it and the league would be better off as well.

[JSABleedsGreen]

I think that the Union should take an extremely hard line in the next CBA negotiation about the leeway players have in commenting about referee performance.

you think it's wrong for players to speak their minds about the referees? I think it's somewhat wrong but if the referees give superstars leniency on calls then players should be able to speak their minds about the refs. IF the games were called fair then I'd be all for players shutting their mouths and just playing the game.

How many superstar players get the benefit of the call on a young player who made a great play but was called the other way? plenty.....how many times have I seen Nash get the offensive foul called in his favor when he's not set and still moving? Plenty. How many times have I seen Lebron get the benefit of the call when he clearly has commited a foul on the play? plenty....

[EJay33]

Of course Sheed is going to read the book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3zxY3iu6n8

Go to 6:30, ejected from a playoff game (essentially the NBA Finals because the winner of the series was going to cruise past the 76ers) for LOOKING at a ref without saying a word. This is kind of the stuff Donaughy suggests happens.

[EJay33]

How many of you guys play hoops and have encountered referees who call everything the wrong way. I'm sure everyone.....I've had my run-ins with refs too, plenty of arguements and disagreements. I even had one threaten me, like physically threaten me in front of everyone so i knocked his ass out cold, right on the court.

Don't lie. You obviously didn't really do this. I demand a link.

[JSABleedsGreen]

How many of you guys play hoops and have encountered referees who call everything the wrong way. I'm sure everyone.....I've had my run-ins with refs too, plenty of arguements and disagreements. I even had one threaten me, like physically threaten me in front of everyone so i knocked his ass out cold, right on the court.

Don't lie. You obviously didn't really do this. I demand a link.

No link, no cops, nothing to report. It was an outdoor league in my neighborhood when i was growing up. everyone in the league was from the same area even the refs. I was about 16 or 17. Ref was probably mid 20's and I knew him and always had run-ins with him before, even when just playing pick-up. I think he had something against me cuz when ever he'd referee our game we would get the **** calls made on us. Well he threaten me, physically and even some stuff that was beyond physical, maybe he meant it or maybe he was trying to scare me because i was just a kid, who knows? He definitely knows what i meant when i knocked his ass out. Plenty of people heard the threat he gave me so it's not like there wasn't a reason for me to do what i did. you see....in the city (hood, streets, whatever you want to call it) we have a cardinal rule, don't say or do something if you don't plan to act on it. Well i considered what i did self defense, in so did a lot of the other people that were there to witness what happened.

[L&H_05]

Every single time this guy opens his mouth it just makes you have to appreciate a guy like Ray Allen and the professionalism that he brings with him nightly even more...

Stern and the boys are always out to get Sheed... Forget the fact that these people have afforded him quite the affluent lifestyle and all-- nope, they're just out to keep the man down..

[celticsfanforlife]

Afforded him the lifestyle? As in what? They could have blackballed him if they wanted? The league isn't the mob and David Stern definitely didnt help make Sheed.

[Hemingway]

Wait, Sheed can read?

Kidding aside, he more or less has legitmacy on his side with his complaints. The NBA has fined him left and right for years and now its out there that some of the people doing it were betting on (or rigging) games. Sheed is kind of in a win win situation in that the NBA is in a bad place. Everytime they fine Sheed for commenting about scandal they just look like they are hiding something.

For our sake, I hope he can wait till the offseason. You can be right about something but wrong because of the actions you take. Wait till the offseason and write your own book. Every fine you than get will be made up for in book sales. Let Stern give you press with every fine.

[JSABleedsGreen]

Wait, Sheed can read?

Kidding aside, he more or less has legitmacy on his side with his complaints. The NBA has fined him left and right for years and now its out there that some of the people doing it were betting on (or rigging) games. Sheed is kind of in a win win situation in that the NBA is in a bad place. Everytime they fine Sheed for commenting about scandal they just look like they are hiding something.

For our sake, I hope he can wait till the offseason. You can be right about something but wrong because of the actions you take. Wait till the offseason and write your own book. Every fine you than get will be made up for in book sales. Let Stern give you press with every fine.

Good point hemingway... i agree 100% with your comments

[Red2]

I agree that we knew or should have known what we were getting but it doesn't mean we have to like it. Unfortunately Sheed has been a negative influence on Perk. It' s almost as if they have a contest to see who can get the most techs. I don't think Doc has been strong enough or vocal enough in his criticism of their behavior. Last night may have been the straw that broke doc's back. He has now gone public about perk's immaturity and hurt feelings aside, it's about time that he did so. Doc can't rely 100% on KG or others to discipline players when they're scewing up. Wallace and Perk have both cost us games this year with their techs and that needs to stop right now.

[Captain_Caveman]

Of course Sheed is going to read the book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3zxY3iu6n8

Go to 6:30, ejected from a playoff game (essentially the NBA Finals because the winner of the series was going to cruise past the 76ers) for LOOKING at a ref without saying a word. This is kind of the stuff Donaughy suggests happens.

If you at that whole clip up to that point, it wasn't really very unjustified.

Guy has a serious attitude problem with refs.

[JSABleedsGreen]

Of course Sheed is going to read the book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3zxY3iu6n8

Go to 6:30, ejected from a playoff game (essentially the NBA Finals because the winner of the series was going to cruise past the 76ers) for LOOKING at a ref without saying a word. This is kind of the stuff Donaughy suggests happens.

If you at that whole clip up to that point, it wasn't really very unjustified.

Guy has a serious attitude problem with refs.

Sheed does have an attitude problem, agreed.....he did get hit a lot in that game and not many calls were made. If you ask me though, I think the ref is a bit of P*ssy. "I told Mike, to tell him to stop staring at me like he's trying to intimidate me" Oh wow.....someone please give that ref a tissue.

[captain green]

freedom of speech the lack of it is a criminal offense fine stern.
let him talk he has millions anyway and he's right refs target him and instigate of course he does too but still.
i've seen 3 games this year that have made me sick and yes it's the refs, I thought they would lie low but I guess not.

[Cyclical]

There's a big point that hasn't been mentioned here - we're talking about two different issues:

1. Speaking his mind about the NBA. Cool, go ahead and do it. It's refreshingly honest, entertaining and if you don't mind the fines, have at it, please.

2. In-game technicals. You're and idiot. You're a 35 year-old adult who's simply unable to control his emotions. You go against everything that the Celtics stand for by saying "this team is talented enough to win a game without me.. . . . It’s like being injured where you might have a little stinger so you’ve got to sit out a game or two. It’s like that. What’s your team going to do then? They’re going to step up.” (Please Use More Appropriate Word). How about "I realize my team needs me. I'm going to have to do better controlling myself after bad calls." Give it a shot. You're a paid pro. Your franchise is counting on you. Stop being a child.

[Kefa461]

According to Perkins, in Wednesday’s game, he said nothing to official Monty McCutchen, who told Perkins to stop complaining. McCutchen began yelling at him, according to Perkins, who responded, “Why are you talking to me like that?’’ Official Zach Zarba then called the technical on Perkins. “They are allowed to scream at you like you are their child, huh?’’ Perkins said. “It ain’t nothing that I can’t stop, so it’s just something I’ve got to control and do a better job. Obviously these last two just wasn’t my fault, so I’ve got to do a better job of controlling myself.’’ Boston Globe

Perkins said he isn’t going to change his demeanor.

“If you don’t know me by now, from when I start the game to when I finish the game, there’s always a frown,’’ he said. “So it’s not like I am changing my emotions throughout the game.

“I am frowning up the whole four quarters. So it’s not like it’s at the ref. I play with a frown. I am trying to do a better job. Ain’t like I am cursing at them or saying something crazy to them.’’


http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... es/?page=2


ps.....it's all a setup.....one screams at you..when you answer the other t's you up.