Kahn considers T-Mac, but requires asset in return

[Slum_Dillinger]

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/80486577.html?

Wolves boss David Kahn has thought about acquiring available Tracy McGrady for the rest of the season if he can get an asset in return. But approaching that $23.2 million salary with matching contracts is nearly impossible, even with the expiring contracts of Brian Cardinal and Mark Blount (nearly $15 million combined).

Antonio Daniels' $5.8 million contract is off the table because the Wolves bought him out early this season.

[revprodeji]

it is Jay-Z. can we trust any of this?

Blount+Cardinal+wilkins+Gomes=T-mac contract.

But that trade goes against the "flexibility" that kahn always preaches. Only 3 possible options.

1.) Getting rid of Gomes contract is important.

2.) We get back an asset that is worth it.

3.) We feel T-Mac can give us something and would either re-sign for less or be valuable as a trade asset. (I doubt it, he needs to be a role player now. lots of miles on those legs and he was nothing special last year either)

[_AIJ_]

Tmac+Budinger

[shangrila]

Budinger would be awesome on this team

[the_bruce]

While this board clamors for cap space I highly doubt the FO is looking to move gomes for cap space. His production per 36 is very good and his contract is locked in for about 5m for the next 4 years and has 2 partially guarenteed years the next 2. It would be one thing if there were a load of FA's, but lets be honest. The most throw around scenario is Rudy Gay and we already have enough cap space to make a big offer on him. Plus the Grizz probably match so who cares?

Per 36 career averages:
Gomes: 14/6.5/1.9
Gay: 17.9/5.7/1.8

For the past few years Gay has been the focal point of the offense, gomes has always been a 3-4th option. They put up similar numbers in steals/FG%/blocks/eFG/TS%/etc. Gay will cost what 10m a season, is he really that huge of an upgrade. Sure he's more athletic, but if you thing gomes is inconsistent then gay is the picture of lackluster effort.

I highly doubt moving gomes is on the FO list of TODO's. Even if he is more suited as 6th or 7th man he's paid for that sort of role and is ideally suited for the triangle.

The wolves can get within the 125% rule without using gomes or sessions. All of those trade scenarios save HOU 12m, and cost the wolves about 4m. I'd imagine a potential trade Khan would consider would involve 3m cash + asset.

So....

Misc contracts + 1m salary for rental of tmac + something else

I'm sure the something else is what hangs up the deal.

[shrink]

This is what I've been saying all along.

Blount + Cardinal + Wilkins for T-Mac + HOU 1st

1. It moves T-Mac and his personality from a good young HOU team.

2. It slides HOU under the lux, saving $12 million dollars

3. For HOU, Wilkins small production > McGrady's non-production.

4. For MIN, they keep Gomes. He may be worth more than his contract, but he's not worth the $12 mil HOU would gain if they didn't include him.

5. While T-Mac is not a part of our future, Taylor buys the pick for $4.5 mil in cap space, giving Kahn one more weapon in his arsenal this summer.

[Krapinsky]

This is what I've been saying all along.

Blount + Cardinal + Wilkins for T-Mac + HOU 1st

1. It moves T-Mac and his personality from a good young HOU team.

2. It slides HOU under the lux, saving $12 million dollars

3. For HOU, Wilkins small production > McGrady's non-production.

4. For MIN, they keep Gomes. He may be worth more than his contract, but he's not worth the $12 mil HOU would gain if they didn't include him.

5. While T-Mac is not a part of our future, Taylor buys the pick for $4.5 mil in cap space, giving Kahn one more weapon in his arsenal this summer.

Yeah, I think this makes a lot of sense, whether it's Budinger or the Houston first. With the $12 million saved, Houston could go out and buy two late firsts from cash strapped teams -- although they might be willing to do that anyway.

[younggunsmn]

small correction, gomes' last 3 years all become fully guaranteed on 6/30, it is not a year by year thing.

I don't want t-mac ever putting on a wolves uni.
We're trying to build cohesion and chemistry, rent-a-ballhog may add a couple wins but it's bad for the future.

[GopherIt!]

BOO!

DONT HELP HOUSTON!

LET THEM EAT CAP SPACE AND CAKE!

(edit - if we do it for Budinger or a pick fine, but I likewise want T-Mac no where near this team.)

[shangrila]

Yeah I do agree with that. There is no point in McGrady ever playing a game here.

However, what about this. Do that trade to get the pick and then buyout McGrady. He'd probably take a bit of a paycut in that situation, especially if it were made clear he wouldn't play. Since it's after the deadline it doesn't really matter and Minnesota gets an asset for nothing really.

[jade_hippo]

Chase would be a huge addition in a T-Mac deal. He'd give us someone who can shoot reliably other than Wayne. I'd make a deal of Buddinger and McGrady in a heartbeat. Another draftpick, especially HOU's is a no go with Houston looking playoffbound and ready to upset some teams in the playoffs. (they are a matchup nightmare for everyone and they play solid team offense AND defense)

[mwithers]

Yeah I do agree with that. There is no point in McGrady ever playing a game here.

However, what about this. Do that trade to get the pick and then buyout McGrady. He'd probably take a bit of a paycut in that situation, especially if it were made clear he wouldn't play. Since it's after the deadline it doesn't really matter and Minnesota gets an asset for nothing really.

I think we should get Budinger and their late 1st if we include Gomes. If we aren't doing anything with McGrady anyway, the trade is simply Gomes and Wilkins for Budinger and a late 1st.

[shangrila]

But who starts at small forward then after that?

[mwithers]

But who starts at small forward then after that?

Budinger most likely

[shangrila]

I guess it'd do for the rest of the season. But for a bad defensive team starting Budinger isn't going to help.

[mwithers]

I guess it'd do for the rest of the season. But for a bad defensive team starting Budinger isn't going to help.

First off, Budinger is not any worse at defense than is Gomes. Second, no player at the 1, 2 or 3 is going to look good on defense until there is some kind of defense being played in our front court.

[shangrila]

You don't need a good defensive front court to be a good defender on the perimeter, unless you prefer gambling for steals to proper defence.

[Narf]

I think Budinger is a 2nd rate prospect, personally. That doesn't mean he's bad it just means he's not a great starter in the waiting. Granted, I have had very limited exposure to him in the NBA so my opinion isn't worth much. But I just didn't see anything special from him, and Gomes is pretty clearly better.

I guess the way this makes sense to me is if we get Houston's 1st unprotected next year. Then you are essentially replacing Gomes with a 1st rounder, giving Houston a good player THIS year that they can keep for a few years, and it costs us something like 2.5 mil and saves them something like 5 mil. That's a fine exchange.

As far as T-Mac goes, it wouldn't hurt to plug him in at SG. You never know, he might just play well and work out a sign-and-trade that makes sense for us.