People fear Perkins

[Captain_Caveman]

It gives me great satisfaction how no one is willing to go in on this dude.

Even the elite bigs like Howard, Bosh and Gasol don't want none.

Off the top of my head, the only guy who has sacked up on this guy in the paint the last few years is Kaman.

No?

[cfan79]

Yep, Kaman and maybe Shaq are the only ones that don't piss themselves when they see him. He's got to shut the F up though. He seems to have become more of a talker since we got Kevin. He's a monster he doesn't need to do that crap.

[cloverleaf]

I'm not sure Sheed's such a great influence either.

[sam_I_am]

Amare lit him up like a Christmas tree too. Just shows what one would expect - if he is asked to cover quicker big men especially those who can shoot like Amare, Dirk, etc. he can look vulnerable. But he just destroyed Bargnani whenever he tried to drive to the rim on him, rather than past him which he did once.

I cannot believe how good he has become and it is clear his ceiling has not been reached. At age 30, when he is nailing 15 footers he is going to be on hell of a player.

[cfan79]

I kept thinking throughout the game against the Raptors, "I can't believe we got him with the 27th pick". LOL, Meanwhile our 13th pick (Banks) barely sees the floor in Toronto.

[SHUTUP Lebron]

No one with a decent 10 - 12 foot jumper fears Perk.

[celticfan42487]

^ Bosh, Barnagi?

Maybe it's just the Raptors

Perk does a great job defending anyone one on one.

[bballcool34]

^Bosh doesn't fear Perkins. He went right at him at the end of the game with the lefty bank shot. And he can generally score on Perk-- but again, he goes into the fairly quick, jumpshooting big men which aren't really Perk's specialty in the first place (but which he does decently on nonetheless).

[celticfan42487]

Okay he doesn't fear him, he just sucks at shooting against him.

[bballcool34]

Except that he doesn't suck at shooting against him.

Anyways I'm done defending a Toronto player- but go through and watch the last game- Bosh does just fine on Perkins.

[Pogue Mahone]

I think it is too easy to say "X player with jumper" lit up Perkins. He is the back line of defense. If he is helping on penetration and his man flashes or pops, it is his teammates responsibility to challenge. How many times have you seen Perkins thwart penetration and the weakside help doesn't jump out?

Yesterday, you could hear Perkins cuss Ray Allen and say "F*ck, foul Ray!" Defense, particularly post defenders and lane cloggers, are highly susceptible to blown assignments by teammates. If Rondo, Ray or Pierce's man drive to the tin, Perkins is their help. If he steps up, the bottom line of the backside help needs to, at minimum, body Perkins' man.

Imo, Ama're didn't "light up" Perkins anymore than he exploited Perkins' foul-avoiding, weak-defending, defensively unaware teammates. The secret to beating any of today's defenses is highlighting the worst help defenders (Al Jeffersons, Ray Allens, Michael Redds, Ryan Gomes, etc, herein after known collectively as "defensive dogs") and forcing them to help.

In our recent championship season, Perkins destroyed Ilgauskus in the playoffs. Excuse my memory but, if I recall correctly, when Perkins was matched up one-on-one with Ilgauskus, Z only converted on something like 3 of 21 attempts. Now, if Perkins is helping off of Z because of a LeBron penetration, Z is not Perkins' responsibility.

On and for the record, I have stated and honestly believe that Perkins is a top 5 player, overall, at his position. If you want to just say "real center/non-quasi forward", he may be the best overall (since Yao is perpetually hurt.) The Paper Tiger in Orlando is really a PF without a jumper or any offensive moves of note. Nene and Duncan are both great PFs who are more than capable of above-average play when moving to C. They are more tweeners than true Cs but what really separates them from other pretenders at the position is their ability to post defend AND lane clog.

Defensively speaking, Foster is a tweener, as well, but he also can step out and cover on the perimeter. Conversely, an Al Jefferson lacks the ability to step-out, cover one-on-one on the blocks (consistently) or lane clog. He is a position-less defender. If a team wants to actually win, they relegate those players as bench players. Only in the bizzarro world of the NBA does he get called a "star" by fans

[cloverleaf]

What I like is that Perk's arms have stayed in his shoulder sockets so far this year. Very encouraging.

[cloverleaf]

I think it is too easy to say "X player with jumper" lit up Perkins. He is the back line of defense. If he is helping on penetration and his man flashes or pops, it is his teammates responsibility to challenge. How many times have you seen Perkins thwart penetration and the weakside help doesn't jump out?

Yesterday, you could hear Perkins cuss Ray Allen and say "F*ck, foul Ray!" Defense, particularly post defenders and lane cloggers, are highly susceptible to blown assignments by teammates. If Rondo, Ray or Pierce's man drive to the tin, Perkins is their help. If he steps up, the bottom line of the backside help needs to, at minimum, body Perkins' man.

Imo, Ama're didn't "light up" Perkins anymore than he exploited Perkins' foul-avoiding, weak-defending, defensively unaware teammates. The secret to beating any of today's defenses is highlighting the worst help defenders (Al Jeffersons, Ray Allens, Michael Redds, Ryan Gomes, etc, herein after known collectively as "defensive dogs") and forcing them to help.

In our recent championship season, Perkins destroyed Ilgauskus in the playoffs. Excuse my memory but, if I recall correctly, when Perkins was matched up one-on-one with Ilgauskus, Z only converted on something like 3 of 21 attempts. Now, if Perkins is helping off of Z because of a LeBron penetration, Z is not Perkins' responsibility.

On and for the record, I have stated and honestly believe that Perkins is a top 5 player, overall, at his position. If you want to just say "real center/non-quasi forward", he may be the best overall (since Yao is perpetually hurt.) The Paper Tiger in Orlando is really a PF without a jumper or any offensive moves of note. Nene and Duncan are both great PFs who are more than capable of above-average play when moving to C. They are more tweeners than true Cs but what really separates them from other pretenders at the position is their ability to post defend AND lane clog.

Defensively speaking, Foster is a tweener, as well, but he also can step out and cover on the perimeter. Conversely, an Al Jefferson lacks the ability to step-out, cover one-on-one on the blocks (consistently) or lane clog. He is a position-less defender. If a team wants to actually win, they relegate those players as bench players. Only in the bizzarro world of the NBA does he get called a "star" by fans

Danny knew what he was doing when he picked Perk and Rondo as the young guys to keep.

[Tirion]

Off the top of my head, the only guy who has sacked up on this guy in the paint the last few years is Kaman.

No?

Add Bogut to that list.

[Captain_Caveman]

^Bosh doesn't fear Perkins. He went right at him at the end of the game with the lefty bank shot. And he can generally score on Perk-- but again, he goes into the fairly quick, jumpshooting big men which aren't really Perk's specialty in the first place (but which he does decently on nonetheless).

THAT'S what you take from yesterday's game?

A lot of guys can score on Perk from outside, as the last few games demonstrate, but not too many are like, "I am gonna take it right at this SOB."

Bosh is certainly not one of them. All the Raps had to do yesterday was have Bosh take it at Perk and get him in foul trouble. But Bosh is one of the softest All-Star bigs in recent memory and he turtles up like a Mary when it comes to that.

Yet you cite one play at the end of the game, after the outcome all all but been decided?

[bballcool34]

^Bosh doesn't fear Perkins. He went right at him at the end of the game with the lefty bank shot. And he can generally score on Perk-- but again, he goes into the fairly quick, jumpshooting big men which aren't really Perk's specialty in the first place (but which he does decently on nonetheless).

THAT'S what you take from yesterday's game?

A lot of guys can score on Perk from outside, as the last few games demonstrate, but not too many are like, "I am gonna take it right at this SOB."

Bosh is certainly not one of them. All the Raps had to do yesterday was have Bosh take it at Perk and get him in foul trouble. But Bosh is one of the softest All-Star bigs in recent memory and he turtles up like a Mary when it comes to that.

Yet you cite one play at the end of the game, after the outcome all all but been decided?

If what you mean by fear is not taking it right to Perkins- then I'm with you. But I think that's more common sense on Bosh's part- Perk is a good interior defender and reasonably good at staying in front of his man- the best way to beat him IS to drain jumpers in his face. Bosh really is a small forward in a power forward's body- that's his game.

I cited that last play to show that Bosh can take it inside to Perk when he feels he has the advantage. He just doesn't most of the time because as a tall, skinny power foward posting up on one of the strongest players in the league isn't a smart move.

And btw, the game was all but over- 35 seconds, a 5 pt lead, and Celtic ball isn't a game over by any means.

[irie]

His mean-mug alone scares people. His defense takes it to the next level.

[Captain_Caveman]

bball, Bosh gets the guy in foul trouble and we were done.

Like the rest of his team, Bosh has no sack at all.

[AWalkerREMIX]

Amaré Stoudemire owns Perk, unfortunately

[SichtingLives]

Amaré Stoudemire owns Perk, unfortunately

Based on one game? Bah!

He got completely shut down by Scal last year, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that Scal owns him.

I'm still trying to figure out how that happened, btw.