Nets Buyout Rafer Alston, Trade For Chris Quinn

ChampionRed · Post #1 » by **ChampionRed** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 8:28 pm

http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... _free.html

Didn't see anyone post this but lock if it's already being discussed.

It was only a matter of time imo.

Post #2 » by **jerseyjac** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 8:32 pm

thanx for the update!

Jersey Generals · Post #3 » by **Jersey Generals** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 8:35 pm

That means Najera is gone, eh?

SteveNets15 · Post #4 » by **SteveNets15** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:00 pm

PEACE OUT SKIP!!!!!!!!

Post #5 » by **Three34** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:08 pm

The Heat are going to trade Chris Quinn to the Nets for a second rounder and cash, thus opening up a roster spot with which they can sign Alston. All very strange.

vincecarter4pres · Post #6 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:21 pm

Sham wrote:The Heat are going to trade Chris Quinn to the Nets for a second rounder and cash, thus opening up a roster spot with which they can sign Alston. All very strange.

I take it NJ will then cut Quinn?

Rockice_8 · Post #7 » by **Rockice_8** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:21 pm

Thank the Lord. . . Now I don't have to watch his matador D and crappy shooting anymore. Looks like another trade is brewing.

SteveNets15 · Post #8 » by **SteveNets15** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:33 pm

Maybe will keep Quinn as our 3rd pg in case of injuries to Devin or Dooling.The Nets weren't gonna play Skip anymore unless someone got hurt so it was only a matter of time until he asked for a trade and became a problem.

klemen4 · Post #9 » by **klemen4** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:37 pm

I got the real story (makes much more sense). Apparently Miami sends Quinn, 2nd Rounder in 2012 and cash to NJ for a TPE.

Makes sense now. Miami saves tax., NJN gets 2 round pick, money and Quinn.

Preludepunk27 · Post #10 » by **Preludepunk27** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:37 pm

It's official we traded an TE for Quinn and a 2012 2nd rounder.

What does Quinn's contract look like?

deviljets7 · Post #11 » by **deviljets7** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:49 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:It's official we traded an TE for Quinn and a 2012 2nd rounder.

What does Quinn's contract look like?

He's making $1,050,387 this year and is an unrestricted free agent after this year.

Assuming there's no cash involved in this deal, NJ saves 300-400K (according to Dave D, Alston was bought out for $2.1 million when there was $3 mil left on the deal) and get a pick.

lurkingobeiscity · Post #12 » by **lurkingobeiscity** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:49 pm

^ just over a million and expiring. He's an excellent fit at 3rd PG for what its worth (not much). He can shoot the ball from outside and play within his role.

His nba player page picture is priceless:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_quinn/career_stats.html

jeff1624 · Post #13 » by **jeff1624** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:58 pm

Yaaayyy.. we got rid of Alston. Now on to Najera and Simmons!

NetsForce · Post #14 » by **NetsForce** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 10:00 pm

Haha this is so great. Yi's balling, Alston is gone, wow I'm going to go have myself a party...

S.I.C. GM · Post #15 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 10:12 pm

Anyway. I guess no one else out there wanted Skip. Now he can go to whatever team he wants

deviljets7 · Post #16 » by **deviljets7** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 3:27 am

S.I.C. GM wrote:Anyway. I guess no one else out there wanted Skip. Now he can go to whatever team he wants

From Dave D

He had $3.05 million coming to him for the remaining 49 games, and the Nets were able to convince Fegan to settle for roughly $2.1 million.

Based on that amount, I don't think there's an Alston trade that would have saved more money than simply buying him out. Plus the roster flexibility allowed us to get the pick (with Quinn) that a team was likely offering us for Rafer (if that much).

enetric · Post #17 » by **enetric** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 4:04 am

I am not understanding this move.

Cap wise..if I recall the contracts we most want to get rid is Najera...right?

Why wouldnt we use Alston to do that? As in...some team in need of a PG for the playoffs takes him for an expiring?

By taking back a second...doesnt this hurt cap room? Wouldnt the open spot be worth a cap hold of 5ook vs closer to a mil for the 2nd rounder?

Seems to me...ditto for the Dallas pick. Would see to make sense...and please correct me if i am wrong...that we look to move that pick as well. Obviously Yi is going no where...and our pick is going to be closer to 1st...so that's less cap room than planned.

Something has to be trimmed. Not sure how Alston who was expriring anyway made sense to be used in this way. It seemed to me that he was one of our most tradeable assets for a team in the stretch run.

NetsForce · Post #18 » by **NetsForce** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 4:31 am

enetric wrote:I am not understanding this move.

Cap wise..if I recall the contracts we most want to get rid is Najera...right?

Why wouldnt we use Alston to do that? As in...some team in need of a PG for the playoffs takes him for an expiring?

By taking back a second...doesnt this hurt cap room? Wouldnt the open spot be worth a cap hold of 5ook vs closer to a mil for the 2nd rounder?

Seems to me...ditto for the Dallas pick. Would see to make sense...and please correct me if i am wrong...that we look to move that pick as well. Obviously Yi is going no where...and our pick is going to be closer to 1st...so that's less cap room than planned.

Something has to be trimmed. Not sure how Alston who was expriring anyway made sense to be used in this way. It seemed to me that he was one of our most tradeable assets for a team in the stretch run.

I think no one wanted Alston / the Nets couldn't find a team that would take him and give them expirings so as not to cut into 2010 cap space. Also the second round pick is a 2012 pick not a 2010 one.

The Nets traded their 2010 second rounder as part of the deal but it's top 50 protected (meaning the Nets would have to finish with one of the 10 best records for the Heat to get the pick :lol:

).

I still stand by what I've been saying before the Nets won't make a big splash in free agency once they fail to land the likes of Lebron / Wade.

I think they're going to carry forward by building through the draft and then try to use their cap space to acquire a star or potential star (or even more draft picks) by making trades with other teams that are in financial distress.

S.I.C. GM · Post #19 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 2:25 pm

NetsForce wrote:
enetric wrote:I am not understanding this move.

Cap wise..if I recall the contracts we most want to get rid is Najera...right?

Why wouldnt we use Alston to do that? As in...some team in need of a PG for the playoffs takes him for an expiring?

By taking back a second...doesnt this hurt cap room? Wouldnt the open spot be worth a cap hold of 5ook vs closer to a mil for the 2nd rounder?

Seems to me...ditto for the Dallas pick. Would see to make sense...and please correct me if i am wrong...that we look to move that pick as well. Obviously Yi is going no where...and our pick is going to be closer to 1st...so that's less cap room than planned.

Something has to be trimmed. Not sure how Alston who was expriring anyway made sense to be used in this way. It seemed to me that he was one of our most tradeable assets for a team in the stretch run.

I think no one wanted Alston / the Nets couldn't find a team that would take him and give them expirings so as not to cut into 2010 cap space. Also the second round pick is a 2012 pick not a 2010 one.

The Nets traded their 2010 second rounder as part of the deal but it's top 50 protected (meaning the Nets would have to finish with one of the 10 best records for the Heat to get the pick ).

I still stand by what I've been saying before the Nets won't make a big splash in free agency once they fail to land the likes of Lebron / Wade.

I think they're going to carry forward by building through the draft and then try to use their cap space to acquire a star or potential star (or even more draft picks) by making trades with other teams that are in financial distress.

This is what I like to hear. I think this is their plan too. Lebron and Wade says No to NJ. Then let the dominoes fall for teams that cant afford star players.

Post #20 » by **jerseyjac** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 2:29 pm

NetsForce wrote:
enetric wrote:I am not understanding this move.

Cap wise..if I recall the contracts we most want to get rid is Najera...right?

Why wouldnt we use Alston to do that? As in...some team in need of a PG for the playoffs takes him for an expiring?

By taking back a second...doesnt this hurt cap room? Wouldnt the open spot be worth a cap hold of 5ook vs closer to a mil for the 2nd rounder?

Seems to me...ditto for the Dallas pick. Would see to make sense...and please correct me if i am wrong...that we look to move that pick as well. Obviously Yi is going no where...and our pick is going to be closer to 1st...so that's less cap room than planned.

Something has to be trimmed. Not sure how Alston who was expriring anyway made sense to be used in this way. It seemed to me that he was one of our most tradeable assets for a team in the stretch run.

I think no one wanted Alston / the Nets couldn't find a team that would take him and give them expirings so as not to cut into 2010 cap space. Also the second round pick is a 2012 pick not a 2010 one.

The Nets traded their 2010 second rounder as part of the deal but it's top 50 protected (meaning the Nets would have to finish with one of the 10 best records for the Heat to get the pick ).

I still stand by what I've been saying before the Nets won't make a big splash in free agency once they fail to land the likes of Lebron / Wade.

I think they're going to carry forward by building through the draft and then try to use their cap space to acquire a star or potential star (or even more draft picks) by making trades with other teams that are in financial distress.

Yeh until a FA comes out and expresses directly they want to come here...I'm setting myself up for a big 2010 disappointement and long and slow rebuild...