Redemption: GSW @ MIN

[B Calrissian]

When I first read his (Baldric's) post, i interpreted it as he was suggesting we needlessly trade Jefferson, which is how Im assuming Calinks took it. I had to read it again to see that he was suggesting IF we were to trade one it should be Jefferson, not saying we NEED to. If someone read it as though it was the latter, I could see the irony in that.

If thats not how Calinks took it then im way off base, but this is what im assuming happened, because it happened to me until i reread it.

Seems like everyone here has been on edge lately. I think we all need to take a Wolves forum-wide chill pill. I got the goods

If that was the case then I guess the moral of the story is don't make stupid "LOL smiley IRONY" comments to try and put a person down when you haven't even taken the time to read their post.

I thought it had more to do with defending Al via Al's lap, but I could be wrong. It seems like some people are way too defensive of people being critical regarding Al. Almost like the Aussie posters with Jawai. And that's not a dig at the Aussie posters at all. I am just saying some people on here act like they are from Al's hometown.

[Slum_Dillinger]

When I first read his (Baldric's) post, i interpreted it as he was suggesting we needlessly trade Jefferson, which is how Im assuming Calinks took it. I had to read it again to see that he was suggesting IF we were to trade one it should be Jefferson, not saying we NEED to. If someone read it as though it was the latter, I could see the irony in that.

If thats not how Calinks took it then im way off base, but this is what im assuming happened, because it happened to me until i reread it.

Seems like everyone here has been on edge lately. I think we all need to take a Wolves forum-wide chill pill. I got the goods

If that was the case then I guess the moral of the story is don't make stupid "LOL smiley IRONY" comments to try and put a person down when you haven't even taken the time to read their post.

I thought it had more to do with defending Al via Al's lap, but I could be wrong. It seems like some people are way too defensive of people being critical regarding Al. Almost like the Aussie posters with Jawai. And that's not a dig at the Aussie posters at all. I am just saying some people on here act like they are from Al's hometown.

Its a game thread, pretty much every post in here is rapid fire and sometimes you glance over something or misinterpret something. Its human error, we're all guilty of it. Lets move on from this

[mandurugo]

Suggesting that Mayo would be more useful to this team might be wrong, but it is not a "woefully ignorant" idea. In fact it is an interesting question to think about, though difficult to untangle because there have been many subsequent decisions based on it. However, Mayo is a solid wing player, definitely and upgrade over anyone we have on the wing. Love has shown himself to be an excellent rebounder and a solid forward. LordBaldric might have made a more interesting point by saying he disagrees with the idea and explaining why. This would have allowed the original poster to explain why he would prefer better balance, etc.

But I shouldn't have called you out for your response to Calinks (especially since it really was Baldrics response to the Mayo poster that I would have preferred to be worded differently), I was honestly more curious than challenging - a distinction that is usually lost in written communication. But the board is more interesting when there are more viewpoints, especially when they are explained.

[LordBaldric]

I will reword my comment:

How can you not like the Love/Mayo trade, when in addition to getting the significantly more productive player, you also get salary relief and 1/2 of the trade to draft Rubio?

Because you wanted to pair someone up with Jefferson? How about instead trading Jefferson to pair someone up with Love (the long term better player IMO) instead, as well as bringing in Rubio or trading him for value.

I'm sorry, but I have a problem seeing that trade as anything but a positive for us. And when someone openly pines for it's reversal in as if it's a no-brainer like the person I spoke about did, i am prone to get ornery...

[Calinks]

Wow this thread blew up. I didn't read it as trading Al over Love. The post said that if anyone has to be shipped it should be Big Al. I didn't see it as an either or statement between Al and Love. When I read anyone I interpreted as anyone on the team. To me that is ironic because I don't see why we wold have cause to trade Al over any of the other players on the roster. I see and understand the argument for trading Al before Love if we had to but as I said, that's now how I took the comment.

[mandurugo]

I will reword my comment:

How can you not like the Love/Mayo trade, when in addition to getting the significantly more productive player, you also get salary relief and 1/2 of the trade to draft Rubio?

This is definitely a reason to like the trade, however the problem is that we don't know how Rubio will translate to the NBA and how exactly this salary relief will work to the wolves advantage. The current value of choosing to pair Love with Jefferson is to make the wolves the 2nd worst team in the league and a growing consensus that the two might not be able to play together. Could the wolves have achieved salary relief some other way if they had kept Mayo, and how would the recent drafts have gone - hard to say. Salary relief would probably have been harder. But on the other hand, how good would the wolves be if they had a wing who could complement the best player on the team at the time of the trade? Love's play has undeniably made the team better since his return, but was combining him with Jefferson really the better option?

Because you wanted to pair someone up with Jefferson? How about instead trading Jefferson to pair someone up with Love (the long term better player IMO) instead, as well as bringing in Rubio or trading him for value.

I'm sorry, but I have a problem seeing that trade as anything but a positive for us. And when someone openly pines for it's reversal in as if it's a no-brainer like the person I spoke about did, i am prone to get ornery...

I'm not so sure that Love is going to be the better player, but if it does turn out that way it will be a lucky break for the wolves. It didn't make sense at the time to try to combine those two players to some of us, and so far besides individual player statistics the results haven't been too good. Even the poster once known as Devilsidewalk isn't convinced that the two can play together anymore. Of course, as you've pointed out some of the elements of the trade haven't had a chance to play out yet, and perhaps by trading Jefferson they can get better balance. However without Jefferson's low post scoring, I think the wolves will struggle in the front court on offense. Without knowing how this plays out, I will say this has been some lousy basketball to watch while we're waiting for the other shoes to drop. I don't think keeping Mayo would have been a ridiculous choice at the time or given the results so far.

[Vindicater]

The cat fight didnt last long enough...