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Wizards remove all Gilbert Arenas related stuff from VC 

Post#1 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sat Jan 9, 2010 2:33 am

From Dan Steinbergs twitter.

# RT @craigstouffer: Even G-wiz the mascot now has a star in place of the number zero. about 2 hours ago from UberTwitter

# RT @kevin_reiss: Josef Stalin is jealous of how quickly and thoroughly the #Wizards have disappeared Gilbert Arenas. about 2 hours ago from UberTwitter

# RT @BulletsForever: #Wizards have changed their pre-game video - no more shots of Gilbert Arenas in there. about 2 hours ago from UberTwitter

# Unreal RT @MrMichaelLee: Gilbert Arenas' image cannot be found at the VC. His jersey & other 0 merchandise is no longer for sale. about 2 hours ago from UberTwitter

# RT @rashad20: all traces of arenas in the verizon center have been accentured


Mods feel free to lock this if it's not worthy of its own thread but the management wouldn't do this if it wasn't looking to rid itself of a player.
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Post#2 » by JWizmentality » Sat Jan 9, 2010 2:35 am

Wow. Want to get rid of Gil's contract but not like this. Will be a Wizard fan for life but the organization and big wigs at the top can kiss my salty chocolate balls. Patiently waiting for new ownership to take over and some heads to roll.
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Post#3 » by miller31time » Sat Jan 9, 2010 2:38 am

It doesn't really matter what the Wizards want to do with Arenas.

1. Nobody wants to trade for him and his ugly contract.

2. He probably won't be convicted of anything too serious so voiding his contract is probably out of the realm of possibility. (Even if he was convicted, it's incredibly hard to void a contract)

3. Releasing him would just be (Please Use More Appropriate Word)

This is just fast-paced PR by the organization. People are not happy with Arenas at the moment so the PR dept. is doing everything they can to keep Arenas' name out of any spotlight.
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Post#4 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:22 am

Why do I continue to support this bush league outfit? Gil may eventually be suspended, banned, voided, traded or even jailed. But this knee jerk reaction does no good. Gil's clearly got issues...but damn it, he needs support...he needs the club to stand up and say"
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Post#5 » by WizStorm » Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:31 am

That is royally F'd up.

I was just reading the bog on the Post website and saw the picture of all the Wizard jerseys for sale at the team store (sans #0):
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Somebody high up in the food chain has a serious hair up their butt. I simply can't wait for the ownership change and the house cleaning to begin. I find it very hard to support an organization that simply turns their back on the players and are so eager to throw them in the trash at the first sign of adversity.
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Post#6 » by Mezotarkus » Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:41 am

Agree. I think the organization has gotten beguiled by the idea they can void Arenas' contract and are burning bridges and stacking the deck against him ever being able to come back. They may even be hoping to push him over the edge with all this thinking he might go off on another tirade and get banned from the league for life and they get some sort of relief. The only problem they have I suspect is they probably can't really hope to get his contract voided unless he gets convicted of a felony.
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Post#7 » by bulletproof_32 » Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:52 am

I noticed at the game tonight that the Wiz Dance team as well as the break dance crew weren't wearing his jersey as they normally do but I didn't realize it was going down like this.

My initial reaction was to laugh at how absurd this is but I can't afford to pay the fine that would be levied so I'll just say **** this ****!
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Post#8 » by Zerocious » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:02 am

bulletproof_32 wrote:I noticed at the game tonight that the Wiz Dance team as well as the break dance crew weren't wearing his jersey as they normally do but I didn't realize it was going down like this.

My initial reaction was to laugh at how absurd this is but I can't afford to pay the fine that would be levied so I'll just say **** this ****!


i am loosing respect for the wizards organization by the day. what about, lets stand by our player! all this talk about abe turning over in his grave because of arenas deeds. but what about the heartfelt fatherly hug and advise abe would have given to gilbert. i find this appalling. **** this **** indeed! i agree with a piece written by an espn reporter that i posten in the gil suspended indef thread. stern is a sad bag of tears
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Post#9 » by dangermouse » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:11 am

Lets say, hypothetically, i travelled thousands of miles from my home country to D.C. and i had tickets to go see this game. I was a bit dissapointed that Gil was suspended, but i was looking forward to the game, and looking forward to buying a Gilbert Arenas official jersey from the team store. Maybe i walked past some sports stores earlier that day, and i saw them but i thought, "nah, ill buy one at the game. that would have more meaning to me." I get to the game and there is nothing at all for sale. Hypothetically, would i be dissapointed enough to forget about watching the game, or supporting the wiz anymore? maybe.

ok, gil f'd up, he'll be punished for it, but wouldnt you stand behind your player and support him, or at least let the fans show their support.
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Post#10 » by Hoopalotta » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:24 am

Honestly, I don't know what you guys were expecting.

The current management knows that the likelihood of their getting fired has just increased exponentially in the fallout from Gil's assorted doings. They ain't got his back.

The current ownership group is at this very moment in negotiations to sell the team, their prized asset. But the asset is heavily devalued by this whole situation as well and could conceivably cost them many, many, many millions of dollars. They ain't got his back either.

Even if unintentional, the whole franchise has been devalued in a most humiliating, pointless and insulting manner. Why would they show any loyalty to Gil right now with the situation he's put them in?

But it's highly unlikely that any of these people will even be here to make a final decision on Gil. We'll just have to see what happens when Ted comes in and takes over. I wouldn't venture to guess what all his reaction will be so long as Gil's not charged with felonies, but it's conceivable that there could be an emotive rehabilitation at that point.

But right now, sailing in the squall, skipper's just taking down the splintered mainmast so as to lessen the chance of Zeus's furry combust'ing the powder that lies thar' in the hold.

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Post#11 » by MJG » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:27 am

What this says to me is that not only are they going to try to void his contract, but that they think they're going to be successful. That seems very premature to me, but I suppose they have more information than I do, so maybe they know something I don't.

Well, either that, or they're delusional and think they're going to be able to trade him away.
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Post#12 » by Hoopalotta » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:40 am

I think we have to question the use of the word 'they' here.

I am about 99% sure that ownership is not going to rest in the hands of the Pollin family when or if the Arenas void is completed.

And I'd think the odds are pretty high that Ernie well might not be involved at that point either.

Exactly what all that means behind the scenes, I'm not sure of, but we can't just look at the Wizards as a single entity as far as short term and long term decision making.

There is more of a loose 'them'ze bunch'a guys' than a coherent 'they' at this point.
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Post#13 » by WizStorm » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:41 am

Hoopalotta wrote:Honestly, I don't know what you guys were expecting.

The current management knows that the likelihood of their getting fired has just increased exponentially in the fallout from Gil's assorted doings. They ain't got his back.

The current ownership group is at this very moment in negotiations to sell the team, their prized asset. But the asset is heavily devalued by this whole situation as well and could conceivably cost them many, many, many millions of dollars. They ain't got his back either.

Even if unintentional, the whole franchise has been devalued in a most humiliating, pointless and insulting manner. Why would they show any loyalty to Gil right now with the situation he's put them in?

But it's highly unlikely that any of these people will even be here to make a final decision on Gil. We'll just have to see what happens when Ted comes in and takes over. I wouldn't venture to guess what all his reaction will be so long as Gil's not charged with felonies, but it's conceivable that there could be an emotive rehabilitation at that point.

But right now, sailing in the squall, skipper's just taking down the splintered mainmast so as to lessen the chance of Zeus's furry combust'ing the powder that lies thar' in the hold.

Yar'.
But really, ye olde Pirates are now making Gil walk the plank. Even though the he's the one that actually repaired their sinking ship and was responsible for all the booty they have in the cargo holds.

I would just expect that with all charitable work and incredible services to the community, that the Wizards' would have a wee bit of compassion in this matter. They all know (or SHOULD know) the type of person Gil is and always has been. However, they are treating him like he's all of a sudden a common thug that they are ashamed to have ever known.
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Post#14 » by Wiz99 » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:51 am

Hoopalotta wrote:Honestly, I don't know what you guys were expecting.

The current management knows that the likelihood of their getting fired has just increased exponentially in the fallout from Gil's assorted doings. They ain't got his back.

The current ownership group is at this very moment in negotiations to sell the team, their prized asset. But the asset is heavily devalued by this whole situation as well and could conceivably cost them many, many, many millions of dollars. They ain't got his back either.

Even if unintentional, the whole franchise has been devalued in a most humiliating, pointless and insulting manner. Why would they show any loyalty to Gil right now with the situation he's put them in?

But it's highly unlikely that any of these people will even be here to make a final decision on Gil. We'll just have to see what happens when Ted comes in and takes over. I wouldn't venture to guess what all his reaction will be so long as Gil's not charged with felonies, but it's conceivable that there could be an emotive rehabilitation at that point.

But right now, sailing in the squall, skipper's just taking down the splintered mainmast so as to lessen the chance of Zeus's furry combust'ing the powder that lies thar' in the hold.

Yar'.


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Post#15 » by montestewart » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:54 am

Hoopalotta wrote:Honestly, I don't know what you guys were expecting.

The current management knows that the likelihood of their getting fired has just increased exponentially in the fallout from Gil's assorted doings. They ain't got his back.

The current ownership group is at this very moment in negotiations to sell the team, their prized asset. But the asset is heavily devalued by this whole situation as well and could conceivably cost them many, many, many millions of dollars. They ain't got his back either.

Even if unintentional, the whole franchise has been devalued in a most humiliating, pointless and insulting manner. Why would they show any loyalty to Gil right now with the situation he's put them in?

But it's highly unlikely that any of these people will even be here to make a final decision on Gil. We'll just have to see what happens when Ted comes in and takes over. I wouldn't venture to guess what all his reaction will be so long as Gil's not charged with felonies, but it's conceivable that there could be an emotive rehabilitation at that point.

But right now, sailing in the squall, skipper's just taking down the splintered mainmast so as to lessen the chance of Zeus's furry combust'ing the powder that lies thar' in the hold.

Yar'.

It's a good point. What if the remainder of his contract was worth less than the amount these events have devalued the Pollins' share of the team? And what if, even after the events began to devalue the team and Arenas was confronted, he continually exhibited an attitude that he'd done nothing wrong and had nothing to apologize for, and his public comments continually comments made light of the situation, which continued to devalue the team and undermine already precarious jobs? Perhaps he burned more bridges than we know. Still, from where I sit, it doesn't look very team-like.

The bolded paragraph above is the best point of all.

MJG wrote:What this says to me is that not only are they going to try to void his contract, but that they think they're going to be successful. That seems very premature to me, but I suppose they have more information than I do, so maybe they know something I don't.

Well, either that, or they're delusional and think they're going to be able to trade him away.

I wonder if Stern has communicated that he would back them on this. DC isn't NYC or LA, but it's a much bigger market than almost all the other basketball cities. Soon the basketball world will be reeling with pro-Wizards conspiracy theories, which could mean contract voided, Jamison traded, and Wall in the draft. That would give other teams something to talk about. (Oh, and Arenas would sign w/ LA).
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Post#16 » by Hoopalotta » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:15 am

WizStorm wrote:But really, ye olde Pirates are now making Gil walk the plank. Even though the he's the one that actually repaired their sinking ship and was responsible for all the booty they have in the cargo holds.

I would just expect that with all charitable work and incredible services to the community, that the Wizards' would have a wee bit of compassion in this matter. They all know (or SHOULD know) the type of person Gil is and always has been. However, they are treating him like he's all of a sudden a common thug that they are ashamed to have ever known.


As a' way I'a figure it, when yon storm's a' to break and the gull's u'r a flutter 'pon ye' gleamin' clouds 'gain, we'll set the baton'in of our hatches loose and'a we'll a' dare ta' slip the 12 pounders from thur' tight clove-hitch knots. Then, and'a onlyh then, we a well might'a to dare put up ye' old mainmast and a' unflutter ye' 'Rogers Jolly' with a roar from our bellies that says to all who dare the seas:

Aye sirs, we'ur a' bellicose 'gain! Watch fer' yer' sheep AND yer' wim'en, for'a we're a like to shag the one and eat the other and 're at well 'nuff grog as to be slippery in our druthers in the affair!

But as now the waves toss and skies flash. So skipper's a well right to slip 'yon cracked mainmast loose so as to not 'tract the eye of sirens high nor Kraken low.

Skipper's a' dyin' at any'rate, so it's a' his last act ta' try n' steer this a woe boat from thur' worst a' them rocks.
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Post#17 » by Hoopalotta » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:18 am

If any a' here fancy a discourse on thur' matters Gil, you're a like to hav' ta' talk like a War'shington Sea Dog, fur' I'm a not right keen on the tongue a' yea land-lubbers in yer' fancy spring britches.
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Post#18 » by 80sballboy » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:50 am

While this seems like a hasty and childish reactionary move to one incident, my speculation is that the team (the Pollin family) has had it with him. It ain't one moment. It's the airplane, it's the gambling, it's the tweeting, it's the blogs, it's the not listening to the coache(s), it's not listening to the PR staff, it's taking a serious issue and making a joke out of it, it's not listening to the doctor about rehab and playing in Berry Farms, it's doing his own thing over and over and over since he got here. It's the faith that an aging owner showed a player coming off a serious knee injury, giving him a max contract (Gil took off a few million to help sign somebody else, which really didn't turn into much).

There appears to be two sides to Gil. Ok, he might be 3D, but you have the gregarious, childish goofy Gil, who is also very charitable and does well for the community. The other Gil appears to be standoffish to his coaches and does his own thing, which at first, is cute and and somewhat annoying. But when you add up the gambling, the pranks, the guns brought into the locker room and who knows what else....not to mention the on the court stuff, which boggles the miind at times, especially when it comes to defense and playing team ball.

I have mixed feelings because I like the guy, but I also like what I saw tonight at the game. We might win 15 more games this year, but I'd rather win 15 without him than win 20 with him. (and 20 is stretching it).
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Post#19 » by cavsfan_osiris » Sat Jan 9, 2010 8:11 am

Why is this a big deal? I think it's safe to say he's not returning this season, so why the hell would they want his face all over the VC? His rep is in the toilet right now and it's no one's fault except his own.

When (if) he returns from his suspension they can work Arenas marketing back in slowly at their own pace depending on how things work out.
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Post#20 » by JonathanJoseph » Sat Jan 9, 2010 8:42 am

I'm also appalled at how the organization has thrown Arenas under the bus. The way Arenas is being made into a pariah is making me sick. Sorry, but very little of this behavior was not known to Grunfeld at the time he made Arenas his franchise player.

I am personally shocked that the Wizards have not been an Eastern Conference contender to date, but keep in mind who is more shocked then me: Ernie Grunfeld. This team was supposed to be the culmination of Grunfeld's 5 year vision and it has blown up badly. If you had a 5 year vision in your career and it turned out horrendously while costing millions you'd be desperately trying to push the reset button as well. Seems that this might be a Grunfeld panic move, cause he PERSONALLY had a lot of his career invested in Arenas.

I really don't think the Warriors tried this hard to rid themselves of Sprewell when he choked PJ Carlisemo.
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