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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#21 » by evildallas » Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:39 am

Good, hard-fought win. No complaints even though Joe was working my last nerve in the 4th.
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#22 » by Rendezvous » Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:50 am

Just came in to say that

Crawford was a beast!

Love that 4 point play!
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#23 » by parson » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:50 am

SneakerKing33 wrote:Maybe its the Hawks fan in me but it sure seems that ATlanta doesnt get any calls. Especially late in games. Am I wrong?

Not as far as I can see, but, then again, I think most games the Celtics, Cavs and Lakers play are officiated that way. Kills me to hear Hubie say that Pierce "had" to get a call because he whined the play before. Why? Why do certain players know they'll get favorable calls?

I'd better stop beating a murdered horse.

BUT, we refused to give in. CRAWFORD refused to let us give in. He gets the game ball. Smoove manned up; Horford manned up; Bibby kept sticking daggers in the Celtics; Marvelous played better than he has in awhile.

Joe's seen better games.

We were visibly more athletic than the old, old, OLD Celtics. On an even playing field, we'd run away with the game. Tonight is why I watch.
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#24 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:54 am

^^Ya when I said that I meant against the good teams (LA, Boston, Cleve, Orl). The calls always go the other way, but hey we overcame, and it was nice to see!
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#25 » by evildallas » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:55 am

SneakerKing33 wrote:Maybe its the Hawks fan in me but it sure seems that ATlanta doesnt get any calls. Especially late in games. Am I wrong?


Personally I felt the game tonight was officiated fairly. Neither team got all the calls they wanted and neither got rang up for an inordinate amount of touch fouls. Boston has a reputation for defense and contact which means they normally don't get whistled for touch contact or reaching in. I thought we were allowed the same level of contact on defense (doesn't always happen that way) which was good for a change.
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Post#26 » by evildallas » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:05 am

Another comment, while Jamal's scoring carried us in the 4th a big amount of credit needs to be given to Bibby who had the good sense to actually run plays on 2 possessions after Joe unsuccessfully went iso twice in a row early in the 4th contributing to a Boston rally. He changed the direction of the game at that point for the better.
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#27 » by parson » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:14 am

evildallas wrote:Personally I felt the game tonight was officiated fairly. Neither team got all the calls they wanted and neither got rang up for an inordinate amount of touch fouls. Boston has a reputation for defense and contact which means they normally don't get whistled for touch contact or reaching in. I thought we were allowed the same level of contact on defense (doesn't always happen that way) which was good for a change.

I think you meant the game was officiated NORMALLY, not fairly. Saying that the Celtics usually are allowed to play a more physical game than other teams are doesn't mean it's fair.
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#28 » by JoshB914 » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:16 am

evildallas wrote:Another comment, while Jamal's scoring carried us in the 4th a big amount of credit needs to be given to Bibby who had the good sense to actually run plays on 2 possessions after Joe unsuccessfully went iso twice in a row early in the 4th contributing to a Boston rally. He changed the direction of the game at that point for the better.


Was going to bring up the same thing. Honestly, in a game against a great defensive team like Boston, I'd rather the ball start in Bibby's hands than Joe. He is a much better facilitator on offense, I was getting might uneasy when Joe had a few possessions where he went back to trying to dribble a hole through the floor as the C's made a run at us. Good to see Mike take control of the offense and we were able to get some solid shots in the halfcourt because of it.

Overall, a good win that should get us back on track.

Oh yeah, and Shelden Williams is still a complete scrub. He won't last much longer in the league.
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Post#29 » by JoshB914 » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:18 am

As for the officiating, I thought it was fair. There was a play in the final minutes where Pierce was clearly hacked under the basket and didn't get the call. To be honest, I think we get a ton of calls at home, and we have earned that having been so great at Philips for three years now. You guys are just letting your biases get the best of you, the game was called fairly well tonight imo.
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#30 » by BAMABIRD » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:42 am

Good game, great win.. Go Hawks!
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#31 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:50 am

JoshB914 wrote:As for the officiating, I thought it was fair. There was a play in the final minutes where Pierce was clearly hacked under the basket and didn't get the call. To be honest, I think we get a ton of calls at home, and we have earned that having been so great at Philips for three years now. You guys are just letting your biases get the best of you, the game was called fairly well tonight imo.

Ya I knew it was my blind love for the Hawks.

Joe is becoming more and more of a problem down the stretch. When he touches the ball he wants to iso it up. I wish it would just penetrate and dish to the shooters. He did that so well the first 3 quarters.
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Post#32 » by Retrovision » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:59 am

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Post#33 » by HMFFL » Sat Jan 9, 2010 6:09 am

I was stuck at the studio all day working and missed the entire game, but I did have the box score automatically refreshing on my phone.

Not sure what happened to Orlando but they Washington beat them? Wow!

I'm glad Orlando is also playing on a back to back.
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#34 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sat Jan 9, 2010 6:15 am

HMFFL wrote:I was stuck at the studio all day working and missed the entire game, but I did have the box score automatically refreshing on my phone.

Not sure what happened to Orlando but they Washington beat them? Wow!

I'm glad Orlando is also playing on a back to back.

Watched the end of that game. Couldnt get go to baskets before Washington pulled away. Oh how they missed Hedo and there pick adn roll game. Vince also sprained his shoulder and I would assume hes doubtful for tomorrows game(looked pretty bad).
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Post#35 » by evildallas » Sat Jan 9, 2010 7:18 am

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evildallas wrote:Personally I felt the game tonight was officiated fairly. Neither team got all the calls they wanted and neither got rang up for an inordinate amount of touch fouls. Boston has a reputation for defense and contact which means they normally don't get whistled for touch contact or reaching in. I thought we were allowed the same level of contact on defense (doesn't always happen that way) which was good for a change.

I think you meant the game was officiated NORMALLY, not fairly. Saying that the Celtics usually are allowed to play a more physical game than other teams are doesn't mean it's fair.


I thought we were allowed to play as aggressively on D as they were tonight that is why I felt it was officiated fairly not "normally" which would be a game where we get called for any contact and they get to hack at the ball. The only guy I felt got unfairly quick whistled was Zaza on 2 plays, but he made up for it by getting his money's worth on his other 2 fouls. We did get called for more fouls, but it didn't feel strange within the flow of the game. This wasn't like the hose job we got against the Cavaliers which is my example for an unfairly officiated game.
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Post#36 » by evildallas » Sat Jan 9, 2010 7:28 am

For those of you who missed the ESPN broadcast, Mashburn predicts the Hawks in the Eastern Conference Finals (before/during the game). The rest of the crew was less thrilled by the Hawks. Byron Scott came across as a tool to me and he claimed the Hawks hadn't beaten anyone. I admit we choked against the Cavs, but we hold wins at Boston and Dallas and a split against Denver. Our record against teams currently in the playoffs are 10-7.
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#37 » by dms269 » Sat Jan 9, 2010 2:21 pm

The announcers kept hounding the hawks when Joe was running those iso plays. They saw what we have been seeing all season...that it doesn't work.

Could win though. Crawford has to win the 6th man award. I know Landry and Harrington have been great, but Crawford is taking over games when we need him to be.

I loved our rotation schemes on defense. They would set a pick and we would rotate. There were sometimes when it was a matchup problem and you had Al on like Ray Allen, but for the most part it worked great.
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Re: Boston 25-8 (14-4 V) @ Atlanta 22-12 (13-4 H) 

Post#38 » by Skyhawk1 » Sat Jan 9, 2010 8:45 pm

What a nice win. When M. Bibby plays well/agressive, we're much tougher to beat. Game after game I get more convinced that if JJ leave the Hawks, we won't be nearly as bad as most think. I'm happy with the way we came up after halftime.
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