Ironpanthr wrote:Quick question for anyone who has had the stomach to watch the past few games (including last night). Has Foye looked good or are his numbers empty? I, like many others, have decided that watching these games is against my better interest, but I saw that he had 20 points, 10 assists and 5 rebounds with only 2 TO's last night, and I believe he's averaging something like 21 and 8 over the past week.
Is he fools gold or should we be thinking about holding on to him notwithstanding the house-cleaning I hope the organization is planning?
Randy Foye is fools gold. Our team needs a point guard that is commited to developing his bigs. A point guard’s job is to get the ball to his post players in a TRIPLE THREAT POSITION. Why do bigs need a point guard? Because they need to be able to catch the ball close to the basket and have the option to pass or dribble or shoot. A point guard’s job is to get the ball to his post player on the close to rim and once his post player catches the ball, his post player has a ton of options. Our point guard is looking to shoot the ball first which means that he isn’t looking to give his post player the ball in an advantageous position.A post player always has an advantage when he is close to the basket and hasn’t put the ball on the floor. He can pass, he can pump fake and force his man to jump in the air, or he can just pull up for a close shot if his man isn’t playing close to him. He is usually a lot closer to rim than a guard would ever be. This is usually why post players are immediately double teamed when they catch the ball in advantageous position.Of course when you have gilbert or foye running the point, their instinct is to get a clear eyesight at the basket and shoot it. They aren’t looking to get the highest percentage shot or to get the opposing bigman in foul trouble which completely transforms the game.Without a past first point guard, you can develop your bigs triple threat close to the basket post moves. Our bigs have practically no experience reacting to double teams because our points guards almost never make it priority to get them the ball in a triple threat position close to the rim. Our point guards first priority is to shoot the ball. That is the mentality of a shooting guard. A shooting guard looks to shoot first pass second. There is no such thing as shoot first point guard. You basically just have two shooting guards on your team and one of them is better bringing the ball up the court against pressure. But a point guards most important duty is to develop his bigs by getting them the ball in a Triple Threat position close the basket. Arenas and Foye are shooting guards and shooting guards could care less about getting their post players in a triple threat position because they are looking to score even if its at low field goal percentage. And remember a post player is always…always going to score at field goal percentage than a shooting guard. A shooting guards job is to score when all else fails. That is what this team has been operating for the last six years. We have had our point guard believing that he is the first option in an offense. A post shot should always be preferred over a jump shot in any legit offensive system but because we have had ‘no low post offensive’ what’s his name as leader, this distorted view of playoff level level offense has been given the ok.The only way to survive deep in the playoffs with a shooting guard playing point guards, is to have a shooting guard that who’s main priority is to set up his post player in the triple threat position. How many 6’6 pass first defensive shooting guards are there in the nba? Allen Iverson got away with it because he had mckie who was basically functioned as point guard setting up bigs, there are almost no examples of a shoot first championship point guard who shoots the ball first before attempting to get it into the post to his post player. So again, Foye and Arenas need to go unless you have pass first lockdown big shooting guard next to him. This team does not have a pass first lockdown big shooting guard. And remember you would need to have a big shooting guards with dribbling and agility to get anywhere he wants on the court so that he can always get a good passing angle to deliver the ball. There is no such thing a slow pass first shooting guard. Mike Miller does not have the quickness or dribbling skills to get the ball to any point on the court.Grunfeld once again thinks he is going to change the nature of foye into a passfirst point guard that makes it a higher priority to develop his bigs than it is to shoot the basketball just like he though Jamison would become an average defender in the post if the team played stong “team defense”. Foye has been a shooting guard all his life just as Jamison has never been a average post defender ever in his career. That why leonsis has to bring in someone who understands why a shoot first point guard stunts the growth of young post players. Yes Blatche travels but if you don’t give the guy experience dealing with double teams..since his point guard has always looked for his shot first before looking to get his post players the ball close to basket in a triple threat position, then you allow your post player to get that experience against high level competition. So arenas and foye will never develop their post players because they are shooting guards first…point guards second and that mentality will not work duri