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1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause?

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Re: Back on the Bandwagon Game 1/16 

Post#41 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:04 am

After using a short rotation in recent games, Saunders had no choice Saturday but to go to his bench early and often, giving players such as JaVale McGee(notes) and Dominic McGuire(notes) more minutes than usual
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Re: Back on the Bandwagon Game 1/16 

Post#42 » by FAH1223 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:06 am

McGee was everywhere tonight.

Flip needs to take notice, the kid is good and is oozing potential
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Re: Back on the Bandwagon Game 1/16 

Post#43 » by LyricalRico » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:22 am

FAH1223 wrote:McGee was everywhere tonight.

Flip needs to take notice, the kid is good and is oozing potential


I would also give McGee more minutes...if we were playing the Kings frontline every night. Guys like Hawes (soft, perimeter oriented) and Brockman (barely in the league) are easy for a guy like McGee to match up with because they don't exploit his weaknesses like other big men can. IMO his performance tonight is not indicative of what we'd see were he to get these minutes every night.
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#44 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:29 am

I think McGee's the best scoring big man on the team, and if Flip were more imaginative and flexible he'd be playing him with Haywood the same way he played Javale with McGee tonight. I think big men who exploit Javale are generally centers that can't exploit Haywood, but they eat Javale alive when he's the only big in the game. A very simple solution would be McGee / Haywood.

If McGee can play alongside Blatche, like he did tonight, why can't he play with Haywood in an expanded role?

Just giving McGee minutes is a big step for Flip. The more McGee plays the better he'll play.
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Re: Back on the Bandwagon Game 1/16 

Post#45 » by montestewart » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:35 am

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FAH1223 wrote:McGee was everywhere tonight.

Flip needs to take notice, the kid is good and is oozing potential


I would also give McGee more minutes...if we were playing the Kings frontline every night. Guys like Hawes (soft, perimeter oriented) and Brockman (barely in the league) are easy for a guy like McGee to match up with because they don't exploit his weaknesses like other big men can. IMO his performance tonight is not indicative of what we'd see were he to get these minutes every night.


It's good for McGee to get PT now and then; the mighty blocks and alley-oops bolster his confidence in his innate abilities, and his obvious errors provide his coaches clear examples to show him of what he needs to do to strengthen his game. I was happy to see Saunders use him tonight, and if they edited a sequence of his positioning versus Haywood's, he might be able to see how he could get many more rebounds (I won't even get into how he could be a larger part of the offense).
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#46 » by JWizmentality » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:40 am

Holy Shiat!!! DeBrick went 4-4?!?!? Is that a frikkin typo??
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#47 » by montestewart » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:44 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I think McGee's the best scoring big man on the team, and if Flip were more imaginative and flexible he'd be playing him with Haywood the same way he played Javale with McGee tonight. I think big men who exploit Javale are generally centers that can't exploit Haywood, but they eat Javale alive when he's the only big in the game. A very simple solution would be McGee / Haywood.

If McGee can play alongside Blatche, like he did tonight, why can't he play with Haywood in an expanded role?

Just giving McGee minutes is a big step for Flip. The more McGee plays the better he'll play.


When McGee's been given the ball away from the basket, he hasn't shown an ability to make something happen, and rather than trying to assist the team offensive flow (other than as something of a decoy with his dunking ability) he often just has a "gimme the ball" stance. Blatche can be sloppy at times, but he has an outside shot and some tricky moves around the basket. Haywood doesn't have much range, but he's strong and pretty reliable close in. McGee has a spectacular upside, but until he broadens his arsenal, to me he's the third best scoring big man on the team. I hope to see him get much better.
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#48 » by montestewart » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:47 am

JWizmentality wrote:Holy Shiat!!! DeBrick went 4-4?!?!? Is that a frikkin typo??


Last three games: 7-10 FGs, 4-6 from 3P range. Very un-DS like. And he didn't miss a free throw (he didn't shoot any).
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#49 » by mcgradyming » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:37 am

with Jamisons and Haywoods play recently...they better get some good offers for them...
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#50 » by Hoopalotta » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:26 pm

Hey, no Playa'-O'-Da'-Game thread?

Are we tempting the fury of the Basketball gods so neked'ly as all that?

Woe be to we! For they shall swoop upon us and exact a terrible vengeance! A pound of flesh or a Michael Ruffin signing most likely. Or Maybe Stevenson get's selected to represent the Wizards in the three-point shooting competition at all star weekend. Haywood for the Skills competition?

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Re: Back on the Bandwagon Game 1/16 

Post#51 » by LyricalRico » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:12 pm

montestewart wrote:I was happy to see Saunders use him tonight, and if they edited a sequence of his positioning versus Haywood's, he might be able to see how he could get many more rebounds (I won't even get into how he could be a larger part of the offense).


My guess is they are already doing that and he's either not getting it or not listening.
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#52 » by nate33 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:54 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:Hey, no Playa'-O'-Da'-Game thread?

Are we tempting the fury of the Basketball gods so neked'ly as all that?

Yeah, because clearly our allegiance to the Basketball Gods has brought nothing but good fortune to our franchise.
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#53 » by willbcocks » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:18 pm

A lot of people played okay, no one's performance stood out. We didn't have great energy but Sactown had even less.

Pushed, I say give it to Butler--a few decent plays down the stretch.
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#54 » by closg00 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:21 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I think McGee's the best scoring big man on the team, and if Flip were more imaginative and flexible he'd be playing him with Haywood the same way he played Javale with McGee tonight. I think big men who exploit Javale are generally centers that can't exploit Haywood, but they eat Javale alive when he's the only big in the game. A very simple solution would be McGee / Haywood.

If McGee can play alongside Blatche, like he did tonight, why can't he play with Haywood in an expanded role?

Just giving McGee minutes is a big step for Flip. The more McGee plays the better he'll play.


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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#55 » by Ji » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:39 pm

EG has to be the happiest man in America that Tyreke didnt fall to 5 because the trade was made before the draft
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#56 » by hands11 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:37 pm

closg00 wrote:Nice to get a win for the sake of group-moral. Things are going to be weird until after the trade deadline, then we'll know what the rest of the season will be about.

Put McGee out-there and good things are going to happen, would love to see him paired-up with Wood some. And of-course McGee would benefit greatly from some mentoring, he is a project.



Well hopefully he is getting that from Wood in practice.

But yeah, I've been a big fan of Haywood and McGee getting some minutes as I have been a fan of Haywood and Blatche which at least we have finally started to see this year. EJ never played Haywood and Blatche together. This is the first year.
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#57 » by WashWiz54 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:45 pm

Sweet.

My status as a DeShawn Stevenson fan can be in the open without having everyone on this board attack me! Thank you Stevenson for giving me a game I can brag about and bring up whenever anyone questions you. Hopefully this is a positive trend for him :D

Anyways, as I've stated before the Kings are my favorite team out West, so I'm glad everyone is seeing Tyreke is something serious. He and Jason Thompson (and K-Mart if they keep him) will be the three leading them to the playoffs by next season.
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Re: 1/16 - Wiz/Sac GT - Violation of CBA moral turpitude clause? 

Post#58 » by hands11 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:08 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I think McGee's the best scoring big man on the team, and if Flip were more imaginative and flexible he'd be playing him with Haywood the same way he played Javale with McGee tonight. I think big men who exploit Javale are generally centers that can't exploit Haywood, but they eat Javale alive when he's the only big in the game. A very simple solution would be McGee / Haywood.

If McGee can play alongside Blatche, like he did tonight, why can't he play with Haywood in an expanded role?

Just giving McGee minutes is a big step for Flip. The more McGee plays the better he'll play.


No doubt. If you like Blatche as a weak side defender to Haywood just image McGee. Blatche is not a great leaper. McGee is.

I think Flip had a lot of work to do with lots of players on this team. There was a lot of clean up work to be done. So much of the start of the season was about bringing Gil back into the fold. Then we add AJ to the mix and it was about getting all three of them going. Without Gil there, I think Flip has an easier joke getting everyone moving in the same direction.

I can see some signs that some players are growing. I see it in Nick. He seems to be growing up this year. Blatche started the year well then had a lapse. Hopefully he getting back to where he was.

But a huge thing this team needs is some stability. They have had so many starting line ups this year it's crazy.

But if DS can keep it up, then you have your starters.

Foye, DS, CB, AJ, BH and you have your bench Boykins, NY, MM, AB, McGee with DMAC and Fabo behind them. Hopefully this is where we will be once we have MM back and once Flip commits to giving McGee the back up center job.

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