TKF's keys to the loss

stevieg987 · Post #21 » by **stevieg987** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:31 am

One of the biggest games of the year...

The emergence of Hill and the decline of Duhon is what this game will be remembered for.

RHODEY · Post #22 » by **RHODEY** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:33 am

TKF wrote:Another loss. fell down big, had to battle back, came close but couldn't get it done.. we just got outhustled tonight.. pistons with 20 offensive boards.. can't win letting a team do that to you..

Keys:

Lee: got his in the first quarter scoring 16 points, then after that, it as a bumbling game for lee. He wasn't boxing out, he was forcing shots and getting them blocked repeatedly.. I know the guy played 48 minutes last night, and maybe he was a bit tired.. I place that on the coach.. lee finished with 26/17/9 another near triple double.. solid game, but more of a tale of two halves for lee.. I think his fast start and him as the focus didn't allow the other guys to get in a rhythm and it showed early and often..

Hughes: came in after being banished in the dog house.. didn't score and looked rusty.. He came in forcing things and it didn't work..

harrington: Thank god he was benched for the rest of the game after the 3rd quarter.. He was a mess, got an unnecessary tech. shot 3-9 for 8 points and 3 boards...

duhon: a complete train wreck.. after a silly turnover he was benched and never came back in the game.. LOL.. thank god!!!!! 0 points 3 dimes and 4 turnovers.. LOL.. please keep him on the bench.. it got so bad, we went with no guards..

Chandler: wow, this guy has come crashing back down to earth lately... I can't put my finger on his struggles, but he is just sloppy with the ball and making mental errors.. shot 4-12, had 8 points and 5 turnovers.. Not getting down on him.. just a slump.. but what bothers me are the bad shots and turnovers.. get it together youngin..

Gallo: Another big game for gallo.. shot 8-16 and 3-6 from three... efficient game.. 4 boards( has to do better) 2 dimes and a steal.. came on after a somewhat sluggish start.. scored in the post, off jumpers, even had a sweet behind the back pass to jeffries, which of course rarely ends up in an assist... I wish we run the offense through gallo more...

nate: after some bonehead plays, really turned it on in the 4th. 11points and 5 dimes.. he really tried to look for teamates and was making an effort on defense. I have no problem with that nate..

Jeffries: 4/5 boards.. really had a hard time guarding charlie V and dealing with the pistons front line.. played good defense as usual, just not a big impact game..

Jordan Hill: really makes you wonder why he rots on the bench.. came in the game and along with gallo and nate changed the tone of the game... Hill made some real nice "pro" moves, and pretty much shut charlie V down with his length and athleticism. had a sweet post move and a nice turnaround shot in the lane.. 6/3/1block... and his impact seemed bigger than that.. He needs to play 20mpg..

overall tough loss, we got abused on the offensive boards, 20 offensive boards. can't allow that to happen... Honestly, I can run with Hill, gallo, lee chandler, nate, TD and jeffries.... with a small and I mean small dose of Al....

16-24 and fading....

I am headed out for drinks.. later..

Thanks TKF save me a round......

We looked fantastic in the first half against Charlotte, and then fell apart. Toronto and the Thunder were two good teams to measure ourselves against, and we didn’t look like we belonged on the same court with either one of them. In between we barely squeaked out a win against the 12 win 76ers.

Whatever we were drinking in December we should have bottled it. Because now it’s slipping through our fingers. After our 1-9 start we have gained exactly one game on .500. Which I guess could be a lot worse, but we were looking a lot better.

Things could turn around fast, of course. Don’t want to get too high or too low. However, if by any chance some commentators here were correct and Donnie was digging in for a stretch run with this core, I would hope at this point that he might be reconsidering. Missing the playoffs while doing nothing to further shed salary could be disastrous.

That is what is so frustrating about the coaches short rotation, because even in wins it is fools gold as we are not playing that well and really it mostly isn't working. We need true catalysts off the bench, not guys who give as much as they take. What, Bender thinks he can take guys off the dribble from the top of the key - get real - block shots, rebound, hit the corner three. Know your **** role. Nate has gone back into his free safety mode. And now Hughes is pissed off, I doubt he would even buy into being back into the rotation. Our guys look like they are:

PACING

themselves for the long minutes. You cannot pace yourself in this league unless you are like **** great. And great players don't pace themselves.

Marty McFly · Post #23 » by **Marty McFly** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:34 am

stevieg987 wrote:One of the biggest games of the year...

The emergence of Hill and the decline of Duhon is what this game will be remembered for.

NYK2010 · Post #24 » by **NYK2010** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:35 am

Thanks for the keys. Another bad loss but could be the start of something. D'antoni has to shake up the rotation now. Hill was impressive on both ends. Nate played a little like PG tonight.. still out of control but much more entertaining than you know who. D Lee had another almost triple-double but.. can't stand his defense. He puts almost zero effort on defense other than going for rebound. His stats are fool's gold to me. Let's see how coach tweak the rotation next game.

Knicksick · Post #25 » by **Knicksick** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:36 am

stevieg987 wrote:One of the biggest games of the year...

The emergence of Hill and the decline of Duhon is what this game will be remembered for.

Not so fast after all Duhon is currently in the locker room having a threesome with Dumbphony and Jeffries----getting his playing time back for monday.

MSGBallerz · Post #26 » by **MSGBallerz** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:41 am

I hope Duhon not playing becomes a regular thing. He sucks.

Drun53 · Post #27 » by **Drun53** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:41 am

IF, and only if, this means that Jordan Hill will be in the rotation, this might be a good loss.

But our playoff hopes are quickly fading away.

Knicksick · Post #28 » by **Knicksick** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:45 am

Drun53 wrote:IF, and only if, this means that Jordan Hill will be in the rotation, this might be a good loss.

But our playoff hopes are quickly fading away.

PLAYOFFS?Have you recently seen Charlotte play?They had back to back blowouts against the western conference 4th and 5th seed.

Chicago is just way more talented.

This season is about developing Hill,Chandler and Gallo.

ezmoney707 · Post #29 » by **ezmoney707** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:47 am

Knicksick wrote:
Drun53 wrote:IF, and only if, this means that Jordan Hill will be in the rotation, this might be a good loss.

But our playoff hopes are quickly fading away.

PLAYOFFS?Have you recently seen Charlotte play?They had back to back blowouts against the western conference 4th and 5th seed.

Chicago is just way more talented.

This season is about developing Hill,Chandler and Gallo.

We are only 3 games out after this losing. Whats wrong with talking about playoffs?

Drun53 · Post #30 » by **Drun53** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:47 am

Knicksick wrote:
Drun53 wrote:IF, and only if, this means that Jordan Hill will be in the rotation, this might be a good loss.

But our playoff hopes are quickly fading away.

PLAYOFFS?Have you recently seen Charlotte play?They had back to back blowouts against the western conference 4th and 5th seed.

Chicago is just way more talented.

This season is about developing Hill,Chandler and Gallo.

Chicago really isn't that good...Rose is arguably worse than he was last year, and Salmons is a horrible Gordon replacement.

MSGBallerz · Post #31 » by **MSGBallerz** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:48 am

Knicksick wrote:
Drun53 wrote:IF, and only if, this means that Jordan Hill will be in the rotation, this might be a good loss.

But our playoff hopes are quickly fading away.

PLAYOFFS?Have you recently seen Charlotte play?They had back to back blowouts against the western conference 4th and 5th seed.

Chicago is just way more talented.

This season is about developing Hill,Chandler and Gallo.

And Toney Douglas too.

Ironhead · Post #32 » by **Ironhead** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:51 am

Good to see some playing time for Hill. He flashed a couple of nices moves out there. On another positive side note Gallo has scored at least 25 points in back to back games for the first time in his NBA career. Not hating on Chandler but I don't think he has done that yet in his career (although he was close a few times).

God knows we need to point out the positive to make it through the rest of this season.

MSGBallerz · Post #33 » by **MSGBallerz** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:51 am

Ironhead wrote:Good to see some playing time for Hill. He flashed a couple of nices moves out there. On another positive side note Gallo has scored at least 25 points in back to back games for the first time in his NBA career. God knows we need to point out the positive to make it through the rest of this season.

They were both in losing efforts though. Can we please get some freaking help? Thank you.

method · Post #34 » by **method** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:56 am

Ironhead wrote:Good to see some playing time for Hill. He flashed a couple of nices moves out there. On another positive side note Gallo has scored at least 25 points in back to back games for the first time in his NBA career. Not hating on Chandler but I don't think he has done that yet in his career (although he was close a few times).

God knows we need to point out the positive to make it through the rest of this season.

Gallo just needs the shot attempts and he could easily average 20 something points.He is a corner stone without a doubt.

Striders · Post #35 » by **Striders** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:01 am

Oh yeah, one slight criticism.

Gallo had a good game, but I hope he makes better decisions on WHEN to drive to the paint. Sometimes his attempts at driving through traffic are just...embarrassing. I appreciate the effort, but he needs to start learning to make better decisions when driving.

stevieg987 · Post #36 » by **stevieg987** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:09 am

Knicksick wrote:
stevieg987 wrote:One of the biggest games of the year...

The emergence of Hill and the decline of Duhon is what this game will be remembered for.

Not so fast after all Duhon is currently in the locker room having a threesome with Dumbphony and Jeffries----getting his playing time back for monday.

If D'antoni does one thing it is move swiftly, I would be unpleasantly surprised if Duhon isn't replaced on Monday. It is well within D'antoni's coaching framework to simply pull the rug from under Duhon at a moments notice, only problem is Lee will lobby for his symbiotic partner to play.

By "emergence" of Jordan Hill I mean being inserted into the rotation.

darkjedi4z · Post #37 » by **darkjedi4z** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:09 am

Are they showcasing Hill for a trade? :dontknow:

RHODEY · Post #38 » by **RHODEY** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:13 am

darkjedi4z wrote:Are they showcasing Hill for a trade?

All along I thought that they were hiding him from a trade.

method · Post #39 » by **method** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:29 am

I guess watching them Larry birds tapes did good for Gallo that behind the back pass came right off them tapes I bet.

istayripped · Post #40 » by **istayripped** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:33 am

method wrote:To all them "fans" that called Hill a bust Ha hahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah man, Jordan Hill looked like a star tonight with those 6 points. A player that scores 6 points in 13 min as a rookie can't possibly be a bust. I'm with you dude, that performance definitely deserves all of those extra letters typed out in the word "haha." Us haters saw that epic 6/3 performance and immediately ate crow! :roll: