1 Million? Seriously?

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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#161 » by crossroads » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:02 pm

GDS20 wrote:Do you want to compare my salary to the NBA's yearly revenue, 1 million is pennies to them


No, 1 million dollars is 1 millions dollars to them. Also, people don't seem to realize that the NBA has several other charities that they donate money to on a yearly basis.

Also, the NBA is a business. Businesses don't typically have a plethora of excess money just sitting in a bank account for them to throw around as they please. Individuals might (hence why individual players can afford to donate a million just by themselves) but businesses don't just take the money they made last year and leave it sitting in a vault in like the CEO's office, they typically have it already re-invested into any number of things.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#162 » by Manocad » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:04 pm

PopsMensahBonsu wrote:Haha nice job manocad. Obviously twisting words in your favor.

Nope. Sorry. You don't get to speak for others. It's as simple as that.

The reality of the situation doesn't change. The NBA is not required to commit more money to the effort than they have. No matter how much hand-wrenching and hollering you do, the NBA and the rest of the world are not going to see things your way.

This obviously upsets you; that's not healthy. I suggest that you become more happy by not watching/supporting the NBA--because if you do you're a being a hypocrite--doing your part to help Haiti, and stop worrying about everyone else because they have a right to handle the situation to their own satisfaction, not yours.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#163 » by crossroads » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:08 pm

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Flash3 wrote:^Again, just because that's what they have, why do they NEED to do something?

You still haven't explained that, yet you CONTINUE to criticize in that manner.


Apparently you dont watch CNN much eh? the nba's main motto seems to be about charity so in moments like these its nice to be generous. Thats why i think they should be contributing more, im not in a position to be donating 1 million dollars myself, sorry. But the nba can afford to, if all the players chipped in 50 000$ each then that could go a long way in Haiti. Lets be honest guys, athletes make alot more money then they should be making compared to police men, teachers,etc. So is it too much to ask that in a moment of need they be a little generous and give back to the people?


This million dollar donation is from the NBA and the Players Union, it's not the collective donation from all the players and teams, individual players are free to donate themselves anything they want to donate, and I'm sure many have they likely just haven't felt the need to publicly announce it.
Also, the NBA spends quite a bit on other charities each and every year. Are they supposed to take money away from those charities and redirect it all to Haiti?

The self-righteous indignation that has been prevalent in this thread is, quite frankly, disgusting.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#164 » by Manhattan Project » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:40 pm

crossroads wrote:
The self-righteous indignation that has been prevalent in this thread is, quite frankly, disgusting.


Agreed.

Every little bit counts... unless your rich. If your rich then it has to be a lot or else your deemed insensitive.

Why condemn the NBA when it donated more than other countries?
Why condemn the NBA when you don't care what they done over the years in other countries?
Why condemn the NBA when odds are most people in this thread didn't donate at all?
Why condemn the NBA when teams all around the league are raising money in addition to what the NBA donated?
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#165 » by AydinOrs » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:37 pm

turtlesnjoi wrote:How old are some of you? The complete lack of knowledge and understanding about economics from some people in this thread is scary if it's coming from adults.


As an economics student, i can safely say that this is a debate about ethics, not economics.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#166 » by Schad » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:39 pm

rsavaj wrote:If everyone who posted in this thread texted $10 to the Red Cross or gave that to UNICEF/Oxfam/Doctors Without Borders, we'd have raised over $1000 by now.


We've done a little better than that on the Raps board...over $4000 pledged or donated.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#167 » by realball » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:28 pm

This thread simply doesn't need to be so long. The NBA decided to donate, and they put in 1 million dollars (which just so happened to match the donation of an entire country). They have a lot of money as they are a multi-billion dollar industry, so they saw fit to put in 1 million, as they're a business first. They will not take excessive measures to fund Haiti, because they, after all, do not have an obligation as "emergency relief organization". Be happy they put in the million. Now donate however much you can as well, hope that other organizations are generous too, and live on with your life.

Manocad is right; stop criticizing other organizations for not donating enough. They don't HAVE to donate jack****, and if you really want them to go that extra mile and lower their own finances for the sake of charity, maybe you should consider doing it yourself, instead of complaining that you don't have the money/resources to help. There's ALWAYS a way to help, and be thankful that at least the NBA cares and did their part.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#168 » by Corps » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:38 pm

They also could have donated zero dollars.

Wow, hating on a donation.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#169 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:37 pm

The NBA will donate far more than $1M dollars. The NBA league office itself though doesn't have the cash flow that each individual team has. Its the choice of the 30 NBA owners to donate money. The revenue stream coming into the NBA is used to negotiate league contracts, manage NBA TV and other assets, and pay out pensions and health care to former and current players.

David Stern can't force Mark Cuban to donate money. But the Mavericks probably will donate.

The NBA league offices aren't supposed to be running at a profit though. The league profits go to the 30 teams, not David Stern's organization. So I don't understand this post.

Its the equivalent of asking why your pension fund doesn't donate you're life savings to charity. That's not their job. Its your job to donate. Its their job to keep and grow your money so you can afford to donate. The NBA is responsible for allowing the 30 NBA franchises and all current and former players to earn money so they can donate themselves.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#170 » by milehigh » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:32 am

PopsMensahBonsu

Maybe instead of whining about what other people are doing you should start a canned food and clothing drive at your local university. That wouldn't require any money just time and effort, but im sure you feel you're making a bigger difference whining on realgm about how other people aren't doing enough. I'm guessing being a broke college student is too easy of an excuse.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#171 » by toka » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:50 am

writerman wrote:i thought the Chinese donation was disgusting considering how wealthy they are. That has to rank them high among the ranks of all-time cheapest bastards...

I guess it cost them too much to put on their propaganda olympics to show how great they are---and to keep their own people subjugated in what is, despite its prosperity, still essentially a totalitarian police state to give more...


Dude, the United States government donated $500,000 to the Chinese last year for the earthquakes in Southern China which killed over 90,000 people. F*ck idiots like you and your anti-China rhetoric. American propaganda and the subjugation of the American population is far more sinister than the oppression the Chinese population experiences. At least they know they're being ****, you actually think you're free.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#172 » by jourdy » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:57 am

toka wrote:
writerman wrote:i thought the Chinese donation was disgusting considering how wealthy they are. That has to rank them high among the ranks of all-time cheapest bastards...

I guess it cost them too much to put on their propaganda olympics to show how great they are---and to keep their own people subjugated in what is, despite its prosperity, still essentially a totalitarian police state to give more...


Dude, the United States government donated $500,000 to the Chinese last year for the earthquakes in Southern China which killed over 90,000 people. F*ck idiots like you and your anti-China rhetoric. American propaganda and the subjugation of the American population is far more sinister than the oppression the Chinese population experiences. At least they know they're being ****, you actually think you're free.


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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#173 » by blkout » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:06 am

This thread is stupid. You always hear people saying "Oh I can't believe they only donated X amount of dollars, I just gave $50 myself. It might not be much but it's the best I could do!" Consider that person makes $30,000 a year, $50 is 0.16% of their yearly salary. Then they criticize professional athlete x for "only" donating $10,000 when he is making 7 million a year which is 0.71% of their yearly income. a much bigger chunk out of their yearly wage than the initial person.

Anyway, don't donate to Wyclef's thing he's a crook.
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#174 » by Riker » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:14 am

Of the four major pro sports teams in town, the Avalanche and Nuggets were the first to pledge financial support for the victims of the catastrophic earthquake in Haiti.

Avalanche and Nuggets players who make a financial donation to charitable institutions toward the relief of victims in Haiti will have them matched, dollar for dollar, by owner Stan Kroenke, the teams said Friday.

Along with player donations and the match from ownership, the Avs and Nuggets have made plans for an extensive advertising campaign to raise awareness for charities for Haitian victims, including work with the American Red Cross.

The NFL has pledged $2.5 million to earthquake relief, according to the league's website. The NBA and Major League Baseball have pledged $1 million each toward charities benefiting victims and their recovery, while the NHL has pledged $100,000.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_142 ... z0cvy5Ve76


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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#175 » by The Main Event » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:20 am

Puertorique wrote:I have to give props to UPS also. If you want to send a care package to Haiti and it weighs less than 50 lbs UPS will ship it free. Load a box of dollar store items and they ship it free. It's not hard people.

I think Im more pissed at Stern and the NBPA then they are at Gilbert Arenas situation. Come on if the NBA cares, this is your time to shine. I expect you to step up.

I was pissed at the dress code. I still stayed a fan.

I was pissed that a 18 year old can die at war or go to prison for life, but can't play in the NBA. I kept watching.

I was pissed about Tim Donaghy. I kept watching.

If the NBA doesn't step up, I may really turn my back on this game. If they dont step up more, I would expect the NBA cares slogan to be dropped.


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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#176 » by RRJ » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:39 am

Fellow RealGM mates, please, enough with this pointless argument. The time spent typing your nonsense is time not spent in prayer, in sending your prayer's to the people of Haiti.

*Oh divine Flying Spaghetti Monster, please touch those poor people with your noodly appendage*
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#177 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:44 am

lj4mvp wrote:it's the same donation both the NFL and MLB made.


That doesn't make it any less pathetic. The NBA is constantly shoving "NBA Cares" commercials down our throats 40 times a game, yet when it actually comes time to "care" they only manage to raise pocket change?
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#178 » by Dry_Fish » Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:55 am

12 pages? really
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#179 » by Puertorique » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:13 am

Dry_Fish wrote:12 pages? really



Yes REALLY.

You know, it's only a poor country, with poor people, who happen to need help.

But then again, I'm sure you could care less about that right. Not worth your time correct?
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#180 » by Puertorique » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:16 am

RRJ wrote:Fellow RealGM mates, please, enough with this pointless argument. The time spent typing your nonsense is time not spent in prayer, in sending your prayer's to the people of Haiti.

*Oh divine Flying Spaghetti Monster, please touch those poor people with your noodly appendage*



Your lack of respect deserves your grave to be pissed on. But we know, who cares about the people in need. Your only typing away on your computer.

I'm sure many people crying and pissing about this Haiti thread are the same ones who were all gung ho for a needless war in Iraq and claimed 9/11 for those actions as justification.

However you see a natural disaster disablitate a country and say oh who cares.

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