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Dont believe everything you read in the LA Times boys. I had some words with the guy who wrote the contracts to make this happen cant. They can. And I believe they will. Its tight but these two deals work and the contracts match.
LA Gives: Bynum, Sasha, Morrison, Mihms Trade Exception.
Toronto Gives: Bosh, Nesterovic and DeMar DeRosan.
Lakers get a franchise player in Bosh who can carry the load of a team himself. They get a 7 footer with an expiring contract who can give Pau some insurance and they get a young 2 guard. Toronto will get a dominant young Center who does not fit with Pau Gasol and who needs the paint to himself. They get a serviceable 2 guard who needs more touches and 6 mil in expiring money.
Done. Suck it LA times.
LA Gives: Bynum, Sasha, Morrison, Mihms Trade Exception.
Toronto Gives: Bosh, Nesterovic and DeMar DeRosan.
Lakers get a franchise player in Bosh who can carry the load of a team himself. They get a 7 footer with an expiring contract who can give Pau some insurance and they get a young 2 guard. Toronto will get a dominant young Center who does not fit with Pau Gasol and who needs the paint to himself. They get a serviceable 2 guard who needs more touches and 6 mil in expiring money.
Done. Suck it LA times.
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sisibilio wrote:Bosh would look horrible in the triangle. All his weaknesses would be exposed.
Yeah Bosh would look horrible being 6-10 with the ability to drain jumpers, crash glass and drive the lane, all things Bynum doesnt do. Hed look awful spreading the floor so the defense has to sag off Pau to guard his versatile inside and outside scoring ability and his speed. It would be horrible to have to watch Bosh, Kobe and Shannon Brown wind sprinting up and down the court not having to wait for Drew and his creaky knees to set up. Who wants all that weakness. Give me the guy with 2 bad knees, no heart, no drive, and too much money any day.
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brmlaw wrote:Yeah Bosh would look horrible being 6-10 with the ability to drain jumpers, crash glass and drive the lane, all things Bynum doesnt do
Huh? Bosh is a TWEENER 6-10 that doesn't know how to properly play interior defense.
He crashes the glass better than Andrew? Then why does Drew have a better Total rebound %? Because Bynum is a better rebounder than Chris Bosh, that's why. The Lakers already have a power forward that can handle the ball and drive the lane in Odom.
brmlaw wrote: Hed look awful spreading the floor so the defense has to sag off Pau to guard his versatile inside and outside scoring ability and his speed. It would be horrible to have to watch Bosh, Kobe and Shannon Brown wind sprinting up and down the court

The biggest post-defender on opposing teams guards BYNUM not Pau Gasol. Instead of abusing undersized power forwards like Matt Bonner Pau would be be guarded by Tim Duncan with Bosh here. That is not going to help Pau.
And we haven't even talked about Bosh's extremely weak post-game.
brmlaw wrote:not having to wait for Drew and his creaky knees to set up. Who wants all that weakness. Give me the guy with 2 bad knees, no heart, no drive, and too much money any day.
We all see through your agenda. You don't like Bynum, we get it.
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KobeFarmarEra wrote:brmlaw wrote:Yeah Bosh would look horrible being 6-10 with the ability to drain jumpers, crash glass and drive the lane, all things Bynum doesnt do
Huh? Bosh is a TWEENER 6-10 that doesn't know how to properly play interior defense.
He crashes the glass better than Andrew? Then why does Drew have a better Total rebound %? Because Bynum is a better rebounder than Chris Bosh, that's why. The Lakers already have a power forward that can handle the ball and drive the lane in Odom.
brmlaw wrote: Hed look awful spreading the floor so the defense has to sag off Pau to guard his versatile inside and outside scoring ability and his speed. It would be horrible to have to watch Bosh, Kobe and Shannon Brown wind sprinting up and down the court
You dont get it.
The biggest post-defender on opposing teams guards BYNUM not Pau Gasol. Instead of abusing undersized power forwards like Matt Bonner Pau would be be guarded by Tim Duncan with Bosh here. That is not going to help Pau.
And we haven't even talked about Bosh's extremely weak post-game.
brmlaw wrote:not having to wait for Drew and his creaky knees to set up. Who wants all that weakness. Give me the guy with 2 bad knees, no heart, no drive, and too much money any day.
We all see through your agenda. You don't like Bynum, we get it.
You are right. I dont like Bynum.....for the Lakers. I like him for Toronto. And what exactly are Drew's #'s when Pau is on the floor, which considering he just signed an extension, you will be seeing alot of in the next 3 years? Drew plays great when he has it to himself. So YOU don't get it. He also doesn't play great when he spends over 100 **** games over the last two years in a suit on the bench with defective **** knees. Enough about his potential. The Lakers are paying him to deliver now, not later. Bosh is not a power player and he isnt as big as Drew. But he does alot of things a whole lot better and he spends the season playing basketball. Not nursing injuries year in and year out.
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KobeFarmarEra wrote:brmlaw wrote:Yeah Bosh would look horrible being 6-10 with the ability to drain jumpers, crash glass and drive the lane, all things Bynum doesnt do
Huh? Bosh is a TWEENER 6-10 that doesn't know how to properly play interior defense.
He crashes the glass better than Andrew? Then why does Drew have a better Total rebound %? Because Bynum is a better rebounder than Chris Bosh, that's why. The Lakers already have a power forward that can handle the ball and drive the lane in Odom.
brmlaw wrote: Hed look awful spreading the floor so the defense has to sag off Pau to guard his versatile inside and outside scoring ability and his speed. It would be horrible to have to watch Bosh, Kobe and Shannon Brown wind sprinting up and down the court
You dont get it.
The biggest post-defender on opposing teams guards BYNUM not Pau Gasol. Instead of abusing undersized power forwards like Matt Bonner Pau would be be guarded by Tim Duncan with Bosh here. That is not going to help Pau.
And we haven't even talked about Bosh's extremely weak post-game.
brmlaw wrote:not having to wait for Drew and his creaky knees to set up. Who wants all that weakness. Give me the guy with 2 bad knees, no heart, no drive, and too much money any day.
We all see through your agenda. You don't like Bynum, we get it.
Yeah they do have one PF who can glass and drive the lane in Odom. With Bosh they would have 2. And rebounding %? Over how many games? Bosh is a 10 game rebound guy every night. Not just the nights Pau has a bad hammy
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I don't quite understand why everyone is so eager to trade Drew (other then the threat of another freak-injury) Bosh may look good on paper, but we transform from the versatile/dynamic team as we throw multiple front-courts (Bynum/Pau, Lo/Pau Bynum/Lo) to strictly just an athletic team who WILL get beaten up by the bigger front-courts.
Also, our front-court rotation won't be as strong, what happens when Pau sits? Who plays center? LO? LO's not a center and neither is Bosh.
Andrew isn't even about potential anymore, he's producing, now the only potential left is how much better he can get.
I mean he's putting up nearly 16 points, 8+ boards on the highest FG% of any Laker. He's also averaging 1.6 bpg. Playing 30+ mpg.
This kid has been blossoming and IMO it'd be a BIG mistake to trade him now.
Also, our front-court rotation won't be as strong, what happens when Pau sits? Who plays center? LO? LO's not a center and neither is Bosh.
Andrew isn't even about potential anymore, he's producing, now the only potential left is how much better he can get.
I mean he's putting up nearly 16 points, 8+ boards on the highest FG% of any Laker. He's also averaging 1.6 bpg. Playing 30+ mpg.
This kid has been blossoming and IMO it'd be a BIG mistake to trade him now.
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Where's all the Bynum lovers tonight? You're boy is where he usually is when a solid big man comes to town. On the bench with Pau effectively holding down the 5 spot. Blossom in Canada.
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brmlaw wrote:Where's all the Bynum lovers tonight? You're boy is where he usually is when a solid big man comes to town. On the bench with Pau effectively holding down the 5 spot. Blossom in Canada.
And if we lose because of it then I will have your head on a sliver patter.
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man, if d12 was just a "solid" big man, we'd be in trouble around the league, lol.
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just saw the cavs vs. toronto game.
BOSH absolutely looked terrible. maybe it was just this 1 game. but this dude could catch the rock. and when depended upon down the stretch? he was NOT comin thru. his interior defense is not as strong as bynum. and tonite at least, he totally sucked.
after watching tonite, again havent seen a bunch of toronto games just this one, absolutely NO WAY do we switch bynum for bosh.
now walton and sasha? hmmmm.
BOSH absolutely looked terrible. maybe it was just this 1 game. but this dude could catch the rock. and when depended upon down the stretch? he was NOT comin thru. his interior defense is not as strong as bynum. and tonite at least, he totally sucked.
after watching tonite, again havent seen a bunch of toronto games just this one, absolutely NO WAY do we switch bynum for bosh.
now walton and sasha? hmmmm.
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I think Bosh would fit great on the Lakers. He has a real nose for the ball so you could expect him to grab a ton of offensive rebounds, and he'd be great at cleaning up buckets around the rim people set up for him. He also has 20 foot range so that spreads the floor a lot for Gasol. I think some people believe he only shoots out to 10 feet or something like Duncan, but he hits a lot from 2 steps inside the 3 point line. So if you have Bosh at 20-15 feet out and Gasol next to the basket, they're really not in each other's way. A Kobe-Bosh pick and pop/roll at the top of the key with Gasol and his hands waiting inside would be deadly. Gasol's man wouldn't be able to help because if you leave him open it's all over
Right now you guys are 12th in off. rebound % and 9th in def. boards. Both of those would go up with Bosh there. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if he grabs like 12 a game
Keep in mind Bosh also gets to the line more than 2x as much as Bynum which gets opposing bigs in foul trouble. You guys are one of the worst teams in the league at getting to the line (7th from the bottom)... that gets you a lot more easy shots.
Finally because Bosh plays with a ton of energy I think that'd really spark this Laker team and make them play like they did after the original Gasol trade. Really though right now your biggest weakness is offense and Bosh has been statistically one of the best offensive players this year. It's hard not to see him making a big impact
One more thing, if you're worried about C defense we could also trade you Rasho in this deal. He's a serviceable step-in with size.
A lot of this depends on what Bosh's stance is in regards to staying with Toronto behind closed doors. If it's looking like he's on the way out I could see this going down
Right now you guys are 12th in off. rebound % and 9th in def. boards. Both of those would go up with Bosh there. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if he grabs like 12 a game
Keep in mind Bosh also gets to the line more than 2x as much as Bynum which gets opposing bigs in foul trouble. You guys are one of the worst teams in the league at getting to the line (7th from the bottom)... that gets you a lot more easy shots.
Finally because Bosh plays with a ton of energy I think that'd really spark this Laker team and make them play like they did after the original Gasol trade. Really though right now your biggest weakness is offense and Bosh has been statistically one of the best offensive players this year. It's hard not to see him making a big impact
One more thing, if you're worried about C defense we could also trade you Rasho in this deal. He's a serviceable step-in with size.
A lot of this depends on what Bosh's stance is in regards to staying with Toronto behind closed doors. If it's looking like he's on the way out I could see this going down
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I say yes. Most of my compatriots here say no. Some of us have stopped drinking the kool-aid, some still have the red lips.
What seems to be a given is that the Bynum/Gasol experiment has ceased to work. At least move LO into the starting lineup and put Bynum as the primary O focus on the second unit so he can get 12-15 shots per game.
What seems to be a given is that the Bynum/Gasol experiment has ceased to work. At least move LO into the starting lineup and put Bynum as the primary O focus on the second unit so he can get 12-15 shots per game.
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After seeing Drew destroy Chrissy Bosh.........hell no, not that I didn't think Drew would kill him anyway. Bosh couldn't do anything right against Drew, had some of his shots blocked by Drew and others were well contested.
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even if a deal like this were to go thru, it would take us more to match the salary...but kupchak would look stupid if he went for this one.
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