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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#21 » by StocktonShorts » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:42 pm

The Sheik wrote:At this point do you think Boozer is going to say trade me?


No, but I didn't expect him to say what he said last year at this time, either.

While you argue for moving 2 out of the 3 of Okur/Boozer/AK... I'd argue that you should include Millsap as a candidate in that group. I see no reason why he should be untouchable.
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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#22 » by The Sheik » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:48 pm

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No, but I didn't expect him to say what he said last year at this time, either.

While you argue for moving 2 out of the 3 of Okur/Boozer/AK... I'd argue that you should include Millsap as a candidate in that group. I see no reason why he should be untouchable.


I dont disagree, but he has the lowest trade value of his entire career right now. He is younger and cheaper than Boozer and that is the only reason I didnt include him.
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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#23 » by The Sheik » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:57 pm

Chicago is obviously struggling and given expectations wants to make the playoffs. Would both teams revisit a TT-Booz trade? Utah send Boozer and CJ Miles to Chicago for TT, Jerome James and James Johnson. Jazz get out of the tax, get a young player back in Johnson and a rotation player now in Thomas.
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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#24 » by OC Jazzfan » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:01 pm

I'd have to agree with Sheik. At this point the Jazz are starting to look like a cobbled together mess. Grossly overpaid AK, center who can't play much defense, shooting guard who can't shoot and 28 wing players none of which has stepped up and grabbed the job by the balls. Throw in Boozer with all his baggage. AND, very few players on the roster are capable defenders. Oh yeah, and a backup PF who played much better before getting his big payday.

I've been on Boozers case for a long time now but I've got to admit, he has been playing very well with a lot of intensity. At this point I wouldn't be unhappy at all if he ended up staying.

Overall, the Jazz are like an old British sports car. When it runs well it's awesome, but most of the time one component or another is going to be misfiring leaving you stranded on the side of the road.
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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#25 » by schneiderjazz » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:40 pm

I think that, first of all, we need to let one of our wings go. You can't expect any consistency from them when you have 5 guys sharing 96 minutes at SG and SF. We have to either let one of them go or simply not play one of them (preferably CJ). We have a lot of trading pieces and yet I don't see our FO making a move.
And you know what's gonna happen? We have an easy schedule for the rest of the season. We'll win 47-50 games and lose 4-1 or 4-2 in the first round. We'll keep one of the games on the road close and people will be saying we could have won the series. Everyone will get their hopes up thinking we're only missing a small piece to be contenders, only to disappoint themselves next season when we can't beat crappy teams on the road or play defense consistantly.
I guess I'm a little pessimistic today.
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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#26 » by outerspacefella » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:18 pm

HappyProle wrote:
DelaneyRudd wrote:Maybe his natural niceness is what causes him to say everywhere is a nice place to be; Cleveland, Utah, Miami, Chicago.


The same niceness that enabled him to smile while stabbing Cleveland in the back.


Not a Boozer lover here.... but I've found that line a little bit unfair to him. Front offices are not full of Red Cross officials; NBA is business at its highest level... if you want to get a season of a very good player at a low price with the promise of a future good contract... well... you are putting yourself at risk. That was a DUMB and CHEAP Cavs FO move, not a Boozer misconduct.
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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#27 » by outerspacefella » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:26 pm

About our dudes liking life in the Jazz organization, in my eyes that demonstrates they're not dumb guys at all. Jazz' been a classy organization for a very long time now. And I bet quality of life in SLC is in many aspects way better than vast marjority of NBA places... of ocurse that's my perception from very far away... but If I'm really a proffessional and a family guy probably SLC would be good for my and my people....
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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#28 » by drivewayball » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:22 pm

Had Boozer tacitly agreed to sign with the Cavaliers for $5.6 million per year on a new contract, and then signed it despite $12 mill a year contract offers from multiple teams (I read that Utah was not the only team pursuing Boozer at the time he became a restricted free agent), then Cleveland would have been subject to the same enormous penalties that Minnesota suffered after the Joe Smith debacle. Cleveland simply had no idea that Boozer had such a high value to other teams and blew it.
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Re: WTF? No One Wants to Leave Utah 

Post#29 » by StocktonShorts » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:46 pm

drivewayball wrote:Had Boozer tacitly agreed to sign with the Cavaliers for $5.6 million per year on a new contract, and then signed it despite $12 mill a year contract offers from multiple teams (I read that Utah was not the only team pursuing Boozer at the time he became a restricted free agent), then Cleveland would have been subject to the same enormous penalties that Minnesota suffered after the Joe Smith debacle. Cleveland simply had no idea that Boozer had such a high value to other teams and blew it.


Yep. That's what I've always loved about it. Cleveland had no leg to stand on... "But! But... we had an illegal under-the-table deal that he broke!"

(btw -- I don't really hold this against Boozer, but I still find it an amusing piece of Jazz/NBA lore)
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