Minnesota - Sacramento

Devilzsidewalk · Post #1 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:46 pm

Kevin Martin, Nocioni

for

Sessions, Mark Bliggidy, D Wilkens, Utah 1st

Sac gets money relief, and some backcourt guys and Utah 1st

MN get Kevin Martin without having to touch Jefferson/Love/Rubio/Flynn, MN/Char 1st. But they take future use of their cap room out of the rebuild equation.

shrink · Post #2 » by **shrink** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:04 pm

I think that's a reasonable offer.

Personally I'd say no, just because of the contracts/injury history, but this deal is more realistic than 98% of the ones I see.

Krapinsky · Post #3 » by **Krapinsky** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:35 pm

I would do it. I don't think Nocioni's contract is that bad. It's descending and has a team option at then end.

Krapinsky · Post #4 » by **Krapinsky** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:39 pm

Maybe get them to add Sergio to the deal

Flynn/Sergio (Rubio)
Martin/Brewer/Ellington
Turner or Johnson or Aminu (Wolves #1)/Nocioni
Love/Gomes/Cousins or Sanders or Alabi (Bobs #1)
Jefferson/Pekovic

Ellington - Gomes - Pekovic would all be movable assets to acquire a third big man if we couldn't get one through the draft.

I think this sets us up too nicely to say no.

moss_is_1 · Post #5 » by **moss_is_1** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:21 pm

I'm not a Martin fan but the value seems okay. Maybe a deal to do this offseason if Martin can show he can play the rest of this season at least, and we know we aren't getting a good free agent wing.

Post #6 » by **The J Rocka** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:58 pm

I would like to see what we can get in the draft, possibly trade for Iggy, and/or sign Gay.

Pass on this deal.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #7 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:11 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Maybe get them to add Sergio to the deal

Flynn/Sergio (Rubio)
Martin/Brewer/Ellington
Turner or Johnson or Aminu (Wolves #1)/Nocioni
Love/Gomes/Cousins or Sanders or Alabi (Bobs #1)
Jefferson/Pekovic

Ellington - Gomes - Pekovic would all be movable assets to acquire a third big man if we couldn't get one through the draft.

I think this sets us up too nicely to say no.

remember that guy that said "oh wow, how stupid are you!" or was it "wow, how stupid is this guy?" or something like that, was that to you? dammit that was underrated funny

er I should say "OT", not really related, I was just thinking of stuff from the past and giggling as I'm wont to do

Krapinsky · Post #8 » by **Krapinsky** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:17 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Maybe get them to add Sergio to the deal

Flynn/Sergio (Rubio)
Martin/Brewer/Ellington
Turner or Johnson or Aminu (Wolves #1)/Nocioni
Love/Gomes/Cousins or Sanders or Alabi (Bobs #1)
Jefferson/Pekovic

Ellington - Gomes - Pekovic would all be movable assets to acquire a third big man if we couldn't get one through the draft.

I think this sets us up too nicely to say no.

remember that guy that said "oh wow, how stupid are you!" or was it "wow, how stupid is this guy?" or something like that, was that to you? dammit that was underrated funny

er I should say "OT", not really related, I was just thinking of stuff from the past and giggling as I'm wont to do

Yeah i remember that. I don't remember the poster though. I think it was more the latter. Wow! How stupid is this guy!?

You got me chuckling now. I would love to find that some how, but that could be in any thread.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #9 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:22 pm

this is what we need a working search function for, there's blood on your hands RealGM

cpfsf · Post #10 » by **cpfsf** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:29 pm

I'd rather keep our chances of drafting Turner. Of course it won't matter as we will fall to 5th in the draft anyway.

Narf · Post #11 » by **Narf** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:22 am

Too much to Sac IMO. Martin + Noc are overpaid as a duo, and you want to give a good contract, cap relief, AND a first round pick for that? I'd wager you could trade Utah's 1st round pick, Sessions, and cap space for Martin by himself and they'd say hell yes.

deeney0 · Post #12 » by **deeney0** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:29 am

I don't see the Kings saying yes to this, but I wish they would because it's a good trade.

skorff26 · Post #13 » by **skorff26** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:25 pm

Sacramento will tear the you apart over this one.

But in reality, I'd turn this down as a wolves fan... I don't want noc at that much and I'm not a fan of Martin, Martin needs to play more D for me to consider it. I'd rather use our 1st on Turner/Johnons/Henry then get Martin.

Krapinsky · Post #14 » by **Krapinsky** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:01 pm

skorff26 wrote:Sacramento will tear the you apart over this one.

But in reality, I'd turn this down as a wolves fan... I don't want noc at that much and I'm not a fan of Martin, Martin needs to play more D for me to consider it. I'd rather use our 1st on Turner/Johnons/Henry then get Martin.

I'd rather have Martin and still use our first on Turner/Johnson/Aminu.

funkatron101 · Post #15 » by **funkatron101** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:10 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
skorff26 wrote:Sacramento will tear the you apart over this one.

But in reality, I'd turn this down as a wolves fan... I don't want noc at that much and I'm not a fan of Martin, Martin needs to play more D for me to consider it. I'd rather use our 1st on Turner/Johnons/Henry then get Martin.

I'd rather have Martin and still use our first on Turner/Johnson/Aminu.

Sorry to hear about your revoked medical license.

Tirion · Post #16 » by **Tirion** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:14 pm

Kings can do better for Martin, some desperate team like dallas or toronto will give up some actual talent/picks.

Krapinsky · Post #17 » by **Krapinsky** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:15 pm

funkatron101 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:
skorff26 wrote:Sacramento will tear the you apart over this one.

But in reality, I'd turn this down as a wolves fan... I don't want noc at that much and I'm not a fan of Martin, Martin needs to play more D for me to consider it. I'd rather use our 1st on Turner/Johnons/Henry then get Martin.

I'd rather have Martin and still use our first on Turner/Johnson/Aminu.

Sorry to hear about your revoked medical license.

I might have to change my name to Dr. Funk or Dr. Funkenstein.

Post #18 » by **ICMTM** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:37 pm

Tirion wrote:Kings can do better for Martin, some desperate team like dallas or toronto will give up some actual talent/picks.

Kings fan here. Knowing the GM of our team's draft/trade history this trade won't happen. We're deep at the pg/wing position negating a need for Sessions/Wilkens. Beno Udrih has played pretty well this season and looks to be the 6th man going forward for the Kings. The Kings need a big man in the worst way.

Kevin Martin's value is greater to a contending team then a rebuilding team in my opinion. IF he's traded I think that's where he will go (to a contender).