Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley

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Who will be the better player?

Anthony Randolph
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Michael Beasley
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Post#881 » by Chosen01 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:24 pm

At least we now we know whos more durable.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#882 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:05 pm

Chosen01 wrote:but i see beasley in his prime 25 9 and 2apg 1spg 0.9bpg on 48% shooting

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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#883 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:16 pm

DGrangeRx33 wrote:
Chosen01 wrote:but i see beasley in his prime 25 9 and 2apg 1spg 0.9bpg on 48% shooting

:lol:


if he ever becomes a 1st option..its likely.

I dont think people realize how good a scorer Beasley is cause they look at his 17ppg. He really gets that much by scoring in quick spurts. Wade is the go to guy always, JO gets the ball the 2nd most..the Heat always want him to get it going early.

As much as Wade helps the role player and spot shooters..Beasley is neither of that.
On a team with a less dominant player and the talent more spread out, Beasley would be at 20ppg+.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#884 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:06 pm

CB4MiamiHeat wrote:
DGrangeRx33 wrote:
Chosen01 wrote:but i see beasley in his prime 25 9 and 2apg 1spg 0.9bpg on 48% shooting

:lol:


if he ever becomes a 1st option..its likely.

I dont think people realize how good a scorer Beasley is cause they look at his 17ppg. He really gets that much by scoring in quick spurts. Wade is the go to guy always, JO gets the ball the 2nd most..the Heat always want him to get it going early.

As much as Wade helps the role player and spot shooters..Beasley is neither of that.
On a team with a less dominant player and the talent more spread out, Beasley would be at 20ppg+.



Uh, Beasley avgs over 4 field goal attempt per game more than JO.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#885 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:12 am

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
CB4MiamiHeat wrote:
DGrangeRx33 wrote:
if he ever becomes a 1st option..its likely.

I dont think people realize how good a scorer Beasley is cause they look at his 17ppg. He really gets that much by scoring in quick spurts. Wade is the go to guy always, JO gets the ball the 2nd most..the Heat always want him to get it going early.

As much as Wade helps the role player and spot shooters..Beasley is neither of that.
On a team with a less dominant player and the talent more spread out, Beasley would be at 20ppg+.



Uh, Beasley avgs over 4 field goal attempt per game more than JO.


He gets most his buckets in quick spurts....he usually carries the scoring load when the 2nd unit is in for like 5-6 straight minutes. When the starting lineup is in its usually Wade dominating the ball (rightfully so) or trying to set JO in the post so he can get it going.

Beasley is in a great situation as far as team goes, most players in his draft class are on under .500 teams. But as far as putting up numbers he isnt. Hed be putting up better numbers on most teams. He just happens to play next to Wade, a top 5 scorer in the league. And the PF situation with Haslem is a lot like Scola and Landry...you gotta sacrifice minutes having 2 great players in one position.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#886 » by J-Rich- » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:33 am

Chosen01 wrote:At least we now we know whos more durable.



you can't avoid freak accidents. even before randolph's severe ankle injury, he has had some other injuries and played through them like a man and those injuries include having busted balls, back pain, ankle sprains, etc
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#887 » by Chosen01 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:31 pm

J-Rich- wrote:
Chosen01 wrote:At least we now we know whos more durable.



you can't avoid freak accidents. even before randolph's severe ankle injury, he has had some other injuries and played through them like a man and those injuries include having busted balls, back pain, ankle sprains, etc



Well anyone can get any injury, yett beasley hasn't. if anthony continues to get injured it'll plauge his development.

After seeing this it gives me more incite to take beasley over AR.
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Post#888 » by Wade2k6 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:35 pm

While Beasley has been more durable, I don't think that AR has shown to be some injury prone player or a player that will likely be plagued his whole career with injuries. I don't know if this was a nagging/ chronic injury or not, but a twisted ankle can turn severe quick and happen to anybody. All a player needs to do is go up for a rebound and come down on a players foot and sprain an ankle or tear ligaments.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#889 » by Dresta » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:19 pm

Beasley with 21/13/4/2

hmmm........
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Post#890 » by Chosen01 » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:24 pm

Yea what a very good all around game by beasley.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#891 » by CoolD » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:19 pm

Beasley needs 7 more votes so he takes the lead on the poll.

Randolph at one time was winning by like 20 percent in the poll or 25 percent or something like that, now he is 2 percent with in closing distance.

Now the question, when will Beasley take over the lead.

Also it will be interesting to do a brand new poll.

See how it looks.
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Post#892 » by old rem » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:02 pm

Wade2k6 wrote:While Beasley has been more durable, I don't think that AR has shown to be some injury prone player or a player that will likely be plagued his whole career with injuries. I don't know if this was a nagging/ chronic injury or not, but a twisted ankle can turn severe quick and happen to anybody. All a player needs to do is go up for a rebound and come down on a players foot and sprain an ankle or tear ligaments.


Yeah...there is nothing chronic about this injury. I guess one can say that a player who's game is rather slow without much jumping has less chance to sprain an ankle. Aside from that...there's no "injury prone" there. The CORE here is not about who's injured this week. rather it's about who is kicking tails 3 years in the future. All things considered,I think Randolph is apt to be more "Impact" in his prime.
His spring,quickness,handles,defense,give AR some big advantages. Beasley's skillset is not as broad but the skills he has are a bit more consistant and polished. I don't expect Randolph to be better short run. I'm very confident he peaks higher. Injuries? SH*T happens. Next month Beasley could get a big injury that damages his outlook. 2 yr in the future either can have a busted knee. So far,neither has "bad wheels".
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#893 » by Jimmy76 » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:16 pm

unless this starts happenings regularly im not gonna call AR injury prone (though his thin frame isnt promising)

I thought Beasley might be good as a small forward but this season its been pretty conclusive he is waaaaaaay more effective at power forward

SF
PER:11.9
opPER:19.2
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hes a huge liability there

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PER:19.8
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+3.6

theres no question Beasley is a power forward only (or should be anyways)
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Post#894 » by old rem » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:26 pm

Dresta wrote:Beasley with 21/13/4/2

hmmm........


Nice. and a bit overdue. as a college star his resume looked a lot like Durant. He seemed destined to be a 20/10 guy. I thought he had better credentials than Rose to be the top pick. Beasley was picked high because he was supposed to be better than Randolph. So far, Beasley has floundered a bit. AR had been under-used and variable but he DID show quite a few streaks of OMG goodness. Beasley has not even matched expectations generally. I DO think Beas will lift his game,but I saw enough of Randolph to feel his ceiling is VERY high. The kid can play a game with a lot of "rookie mistakes" and STILL end up with a great stat sheet and big impact. Basic experience will up his game.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#895 » by Dresta » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:46 pm

old rem wrote:
Wade2k6 wrote:While Beasley has been more durable, I don't think that AR has shown to be some injury prone player or a player that will likely be plagued his whole career with injuries. I don't know if this was a nagging/ chronic injury or not, but a twisted ankle can turn severe quick and happen to anybody. All a player needs to do is go up for a rebound and come down on a players foot and sprain an ankle or tear ligaments.


Yeah...there is nothing chronic about this injury. I guess one can say that a player who's game is rather slow without much jumping has less chance to sprain an ankle. Aside from that...there's no "injury prone" there. The CORE here is not about who's injured this week. rather it's about who is kicking tails 3 years in the future. All things considered,I think Randolph is apt to be more "Impact" in his prime.
His spring,quickness,handles,defense,give AR some big advantages. Beasley's skillset is not as broad but the skills he has are a bit more consistant and polished. I don't expect Randolph to be better short run. I'm very confident he peaks higher. Injuries? SH*T happens. Next month Beasley could get a big injury that damages his outlook. 2 yr in the future either can have a busted knee. So far,neither has "bad wheels".
I thought you were describing Beasley there for a second. Anyway, Randolph has never played in a complex defensive system that Beasley does, so its not easy to compare in that regard tbh.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#896 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:11 pm

CoolD wrote:Beasley needs 7 more votes so he takes the lead on the poll.

Randolph at one time was winning by like 20 percent in the poll or 25 percent or something like that, now he is 2 percent with in closing distance.

Now the question, when will Beasley take over the lead.

Also it will be interesting to do a brand new poll.

See how it looks.


Randolph started the season injured and he's injured now... it would be nice to see the poll with them playing the same amount of minutes.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#897 » by Chosen01 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:48 am

^^ omg take the homer glasses off beasley is better than AR, with AR's frame expect him to be injured a lot more.
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Post#898 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:13 am

Chosen01 wrote:^^ omg take the homer glasses off beasley is better than AR, with AR's frame expect him to be injured a lot more.


I guess jumping up for all those rebounds will lead to a lot of sprained ankles.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#899 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:19 am

old rem wrote:
Dresta wrote:Beasley with 21/13/4/2

hmmm........


Nice. and a bit overdue. as a college star his resume looked a lot like Durant. He seemed destined to be a 20/10 guy. I thought he had better credentials than Rose to be the top pick. Beasley was picked high because he was supposed to be better than Randolph. So far, Beasley has floundered a bit. AR had been under-used and variable but he DID show quite a few streaks of OMG goodness. Beasley has not even matched expectations generally. I DO think Beas will lift his game,but I saw enough of Randolph to feel his ceiling is VERY high. The kid can play a game with a lot of "rookie mistakes" and STILL end up with a great stat sheet and big impact. Basic experience will up his game.


last year he didnt match expectations but this year he has.

You gotta remember he plays on a slow paced team and splits minutes at PF with Haslem, a guy that is highly though of by the coaching staff. Hes not in a situation to put up 20-10..if he played on a team where he was a 1st option, its more likely hell put up those numbers...but honestly, he would probably be criticized for not being a winner and just putting up numbers.

Right now at the age of 21, hes putting up 16pts 7rb as the second/third option on a winning team. Thats pretty good to me.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#900 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:29 am

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old rem wrote:
Dresta wrote:Beasley with 21/13/4/2

hmmm........


Nice. and a bit overdue. as a college star his resume looked a lot like Durant. He seemed destined to be a 20/10 guy. I thought he had better credentials than Rose to be the top pick. Beasley was picked high because he was supposed to be better than Randolph. So far, Beasley has floundered a bit. AR had been under-used and variable but he DID show quite a few streaks of OMG goodness. Beasley has not even matched expectations generally. I DO think Beas will lift his game,but I saw enough of Randolph to feel his ceiling is VERY high. The kid can play a game with a lot of "rookie mistakes" and STILL end up with a great stat sheet and big impact. Basic experience will up his game.


last year he didnt match expectations but this year he has.

You gotta remember he plays on a slow paced team and splits minutes at PF with Haslem, a guy that is highly though of by the coaching staff. Hes not in a situation to put up 20-10..if he played on a team where he was a 1st option, its more likely hell put up those numbers...but honestly, he would probably be criticized for not being a winner and just putting up numbers.


I wouldn't say he's doing terrible but he definitely hasn't meet expectations. He's a scorer on a team that lacks scorers. He uses 25% of your teams possession... That's about as much as Brandon Roy and Joe Johnson. Last year he used about 28%, compared to a guy like Ellis that uses 30% this year (Beasleys team does have less possessions, of course).

The problem is that the expectation people had were unrealistic because of how good he was in college. Hell, I was one of them. He will be good though.
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