Tyreke hardly ever passes directly to K-Mart

luxuryjones · Post #1 » by **luxuryjones** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:38 am

Have you guys ever noticed that Tyreke looks K-Mart off an extremely high % of the time. It's almost like he has his mind made up that he will not pass the ball to K-Mart unless he has no other choice. I'm a Chicagoan but I'm huge Kings fan and was just wondering if anyone else ever noticed that. I think you guys have a pretty dope backcourt, but wondered if there was ever any talk of friction between the two

Luxx

artest420 · Post #2 » by **artest420** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:44 am

ive noticed evans pass it to martin. usually what happens is martin holds the ball and tries to go one on one. maybe evans is starting to look for someone who will take a shot, not steal an assist.

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #3 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:53 am

I don't think Tyreke sees Martin as someone who will "steal" an assist. And if he does, he's exceptionally selfish.

ryanandty · Post #4 » by **ryanandty** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:29 am

They switch between ignoring the side of the floor occupied by the 3 and the side occupied by the 2 every other game or so. Westphal is still trying to figure out who to involve and in what ways.

RIPskaterdude · Post #5 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:56 am

No, he was passing directly to him tonight, but it's hard for Tyreke to get assists when Martin can't make anything...

longfellow44 · Post #6 » by **longfellow44** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:20 am

The same thing happens with Thompson and hawes. Every couple games Thompson will be the recipient of a bunch of passes into the post and then beno gets more playing time and all of a sudden hawes gets more touches and puts up better numbers.

It's the main reason that Evan needs another guard with combo guard skills next to him. He needs help with spreading the touches to all the players. The issue with the bigs is that when Evans drives he will kick the ball to the big on the opposite side of the rim. It also happens when he's at the top of the key if he's going left then the guy on the left side recieves more touches. It's because he's not a pass 1st pg he needs another combo guard to help him balance the offense that's why beno is such a good compliment for him and martins lesser passing ability is an issue.

Post #7 » by **pillwenney** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:30 pm

The thing is, when a guy penetrates and gets his assists in that way (like Tyreke does) there is usually only one right pass to make (unless the other team is playing horrendous D), and Tyreke is exceptionally good at making it at this point. So it really doesn't seem like it would be any form of freezing anyone out or anything like that.

Post #8 » by **ICMTM** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:45 pm

I think ball distribution with Tyreke is an area he has room to grow. I just think that he thinks he's a better option than passing the ball in some situations. In time that will change.

I do think Reke and Beno are complementary yet similar players. I don't think the Evans/Martin backcourt is a (or the) problem. The biggest problem is we don't have enough talent on this team.

luxuryjones · Post #9 » by **luxuryjones** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:17 am

Thanks for the feedback. You guys have 2 beasts....I hope they get it together....Last year in Chicago we had a similar situation but Ben Gordon had no problem clapping for the ball and demanding his shots and D.Rose, who is very unselfish anyway, probably had the majority of his assists goto BG07....KMart clearly understands that Tyreke is probably the future of the organization but he's going to have to quickly make it known he's an Elite scorer who is very efficent and the better they play together, the better for both of them....Be easy fellas

Post #10 » by **KF10** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:23 am

Quotes regarding about Martin:

"I'm relaxed, but I think I left my shot on the surgeon's table," he said with a smile of his Nov. 9 wrist surgery, from which he returned Jan. 15.

"It's just crazy," he said long after Wednesday's practice. "I don't know. I'm at a loss for words. … I can't put my finger on one single thing. I really don't know."

Was it, he was asked, related to the kind of "confidence crisis" that coach Paul Westphal mentioned?

"Confidence (fluctuates) here and there with everybody," he said. "But is mine to a point where I should panic? No. I've just got to play my game, to know who I am, how I made a name for myself in the league. If a shot is there, take it. If you feel like you need to move (the ball), move it. I'm even keel. I don't get emotional, confidence-wise."

Was it, he was asked, related to Westphal's offensive system and how he is being used?

"I really don't know, because that same system was the one we had at the beginning of the year when I was averaging 30 (points)," he said.

Was it, he was asked, a reflection of his pairing with rookie Tyreke Evans and perhaps an indictment of their potential as a backcourt?

"It's just on me to figure it out," he said. "I've got to see how we're playing now, where I'm getting the ball at now. I've been in this league long enough. I know how to score in every way possible on the court. It's on me."

Was it, he was asked, because Martin continues to be a central figure in trade rumors leading to the Feb. 18 deadline?

"No, it's not that," he said. "My mind-set is, if some teams want you, then you should be happy about that and remember that. … That would never affect my play. … You come out, and you just be a pro."

Yet, as Evans pointed out, Martin's recent penchant for passing up open shots surely hasn't helped his situation. And while his teammates haven't been yelling at him to shoot, as some Kings fans did at Arco Arena on Tuesday, they would certainly be open to him doing so.

"He hasn't found his rhythm, yet," Evans said. "He's getting open shots. I just think when he's missing, he's kind of doing what I was doing (early in the season), where he'll miss one or two shots and stop shooting. You've got to keep shooting. When you're a shooter, you've got to keep shooting the ball."

http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/2495578.html

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darkadun · Post #11 » by **darkadun** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:43 pm

Hopefully he truly does have a positive attitude. I don't mind a guy struggling as long as he is putting forth the effort and has a good attitude. If Martin is playing this way because he doesn't like not being the top dog anymore, I find that disturbing. However, he doesn't strike me as that sort of guy. I think he is just in a funk, plain and simple.

Regarding Evans, I agree with guys, he does need to actually run the offense a better & distribute. It seems he can get to the rim whenever he wants, and teams are banking on Evans looking to score, hence double teams. If he can develop a ability to kick out and set up his teamates, teams won't know what to do with him.

I think some of this comes with more experience, and playing with the same players. Because, the other guys have to help Ty out by cutting and getting open as well, and I have no doubt he'd make the pass.