Boozer, Lee, Randolph, Stoudemire and Bosh

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Re: Boozer, Lee, Randolph, Stoudemire and Bosh 

Post#21 » by carrottop12 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:29 pm

Ripp wrote:I think your best bet as a team is to resign Boozer if he will accept reasonable money, or possibly take a flier on David Lee. Lee can probably be signed for a 5-6 year contract averaging 13-15 mil.


You think Lee would give us the discount for a 6 year/90 million dollar contract? Boy that'd sure be decent of him. :roll:
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Post#22 » by drivewayball » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:59 pm

David Lee over Amare Stoudemire. Hilarious? Both are shooting an identical percentage, Lee rebounds at a 30 percent higher rate and hands out 3 1/2 assists to every 1 by Amare. Lee is the more productive player this season. And Boozer and Lee have nearly identical numbers.
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Post#23 » by outerspacefella » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:31 pm

Amare lacks solid character and his attitude's not a good, proffessional one; he has no right to give up on his team, and he has no leadership at all. Lee's good, solid but not great;may be a little bit more consistent than Millsap, but no more than that.
Boozer looks a completelydifferent dude this season, reminds me of the better Boozer, the one that help us to be West runner up, and whatever chemistry problems could hav been seems to be out of the picture now. Besides, he's most probably than not entering his 2 or 3 better years. I think the better deal for the Jazz is try to keep him.
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Post#24 » by Awoooga » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:57 pm

HammerDunk wrote:He is an overachiever on a lottery team. You are too fascinated with him. Even I and most Jazz fans will admit that Boozer doesn't deserve an all-star bid, though he has had similar season to Lee.


Boozer is having a good year but 1) Boozer plays PF 2) in the West. Boozer therefore has a much worse chance of going to the all star game than Lee who 1) plays Center (technically) 2) in the East.

As far as Lee overachieving, I do not care. I only care about production. I'll give you the Tyrus Thomas' and I'll take the David Lee's. Potential is great at the beginning but after a few years, only production matters.
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Re: Boozer, Lee, Randolph, Stoudemire and Bosh 

Post#25 » by Ripp » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:16 pm

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Ripp wrote:I think your best bet as a team is to resign Boozer if he will accept reasonable money, or possibly take a flier on David Lee. Lee can probably be signed for a 5-6 year contract averaging 13-15 mil.


You think Lee would give us the discount for a 6 year/90 million dollar contract? Boy that'd sure be decent of him. :roll:


I don't know what the market rate is, but he turned down a 10 mil/year deal last year. Presumably he wants more...
In any case, the issue isn't how much you are willing to pay, but what the market rate is. Good PFs don't just grow on trees..
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Re: Boozer, Lee, Randolph, Stoudemire and Bosh 

Post#26 » by HammerDunk » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:54 pm

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HammerDunk wrote:He is an overachiever on a lottery team. You are too fascinated with him. Even I and most Jazz fans will admit that Boozer doesn't deserve an all-star bid, though he has had similar season to Lee.


Boozer is having a good year but 1) Boozer plays PF 2) in the West. Boozer therefore has a much worse chance of going to the all star game than Lee who 1) plays Center (technically) 2) in the East.

As far as Lee overachieving, I do not care. I only care about production. I'll give you the Tyrus Thomas' and I'll take the David Lee's. Potential is great at the beginning but after a few years, only production matters.

Boozer is producing wins. Nuff said...
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Post#27 » by Awoooga » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:21 am

Derek Fisher is producing wins. He should also be an all star. "Nuff Said"
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Post#28 » by HammerDunk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:34 am

Awoooga wrote:Derek Fisher is producing wins. He should also be an all star. "Nuff Said"

Bye bye any credibility you may have had around here... :roll:
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Post#29 » by Awoooga » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:07 am

If you can use that logic than I can too. I gave practical reasons why Lee should be an all-star. The response I got was less than satisfactory and I applied the same line of thinking with the goal of achieving a ridiculous result.

As far as me losing credibility with you, I could care less.
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Re: Boozer, Lee, Randolph, Stoudemire and Bosh 

Post#30 » by HammerDunk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:16 am

Awoooga wrote:If you can use that logic than I can too. I gave practical reasons why Lee should be an all-star. The response I got was less than satisfactory and I applied the same line of thinking with the goal of achieving a ridiculous result.

As far as me losing credibility with you, I could care less.

Are you kidding me? Boozer and Lee are having similar seasons, that was the basis of my argument. What is less than satisfactory about that? You ignored that and mocked that with the Fish thing.
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Re: Boozer, Lee, Randolph, Stoudemire and Bosh 

Post#31 » by Awoooga » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:28 am

I agree their stats are almost identical. The thing is Boozer is listed as a PF and plays in the West meaning he has to compete with Duncan, Amare, Randolph, Dirk etc. All of which are on winning teams.

Lee is listed at Center in the East. He is competing with Horford and Brook Lopez. That competition that Lee is up against is much weaker than Boozer's.

Saying Boozer is helping his team win games does not address what I am saying; mainly that Lee is up against weak competition for his all star spot.
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Post#32 » by HammerDunk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:45 am

OK then, you can have the mediocrity of the East argument on your side, though I would rather have Lopez than Lee on my team, but that's because I already have Boozer.
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Post#33 » by drivewayball » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:59 pm

I didn't even know that Derek was leading the Lakers in scoring and rebounding ....
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Post#34 » by Awoooga » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:02 pm

HammerDunk wrote:OK then, you can have the mediocrity of the East argument on your side, though I would rather have Lopez than Lee on my team, but that's because I already have Boozer.


Fair point.
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Re: Boozer, Lee, Randolph, Stoudemire and Bosh 

Post#35 » by HammerDunk » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:44 am

Well, looks like we were both wrong. Horford got it, though I'm not surprised, given the success of the Hawks.
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