Anyone agree? No to all Ray trades*

[Celts17Pride]

How do you upgrade Ray Allen if he is still one of the top 7 or 8 at the postion in the league and those that are better are either already max or soon to be max contract players?

You don't. What you do is resign Ray Allen to a reasonable contract then add a quality SG to the bench. This will allow Ray Allen to transition from a 35-40 MPG player to one who gets 20-25 MPG. Ray's shooting will always be needed. This is why I think the Celtics getting a Maggette type player would be great. It doesn't have to be Maggette but someone who could eventually take over the SG role and move Ray Allen to the bench. I don't believe TA or Daniels are that guy even though they both are useful players.

[irie]

the two trades i would be most interested in if i was going to trade ray would be:

ray and perk to Toronto for bosh, Derozen, and belinelli

ray and glen davis to Washington for caron butler and antawn jamison



i would also be intruiged by these

ray for maggette raja and randalph on the warriors

ray scal and tony for iggy dalembert and thad young

1st one: Celtics won't move Perkins, Toronto won't move DeRozen.
2nd: Not sure what Washington is looking for in return but we'd easily get out-bid with that offer.
3rd: We could not get both Randolph and Maggette for Ray Allen. If we want both, we'd have to add a lot more assets.
4th: I have no idea what Philly is looking for in return for Igoudala. The rumors around his name go in all directions.

[TheSheriff]

I would trade Ray, but only for someone nearly as good and much younger.

I would not trade him for the sake of trading him, but I would give up a few wins this year for many wins of the course of the next three years.

[Ben-N1ce]

Of the players mentioned as being on the trade block I would trade Allen for Amare Stodemire, Monta Ellis, Kevin Martin or Andre Iguodala. Otherwise, I hope we re-sign him for 2 years w a team option for a third. I think he'll re-sign surprisingly cheap, maybe even $5-7 million per year. If it was up to him he would retire a Celtic.

My exact thoughts.

[Havlicek17]

It isn't an issue of Boston shopping Ray Allen, the issue is other front offices and ownership in a panic about finances looking at Boston and wanting to just get the money off their books, they aren't going to win a championship this season and if they don't move these contracts now there may not be a way to move them again.

As Caveman pointed out role players are going to be a huge problem going forward. The Nocioni and Posey type contracts, even Sheed are probably going to be half the money this offseason. Teams with the MLE are going to look to split it and more importantly a lot of teams aren't going to have it at all. Even when the dust settles and teams are trying to make changes their is going to be lack of salary to even move in trades.

But the hardest part in all of this for Boston is that Ray Allen is still pretty damn good, more importantly he plays perhaps the weakest position in the league right now, so he gives the Celtics a huge production advantage. There are only two SG's in the East playing better than Ray, Joe Johnson and Dwayne Wade, max guys. In the West you have Roy, Kobe, Mayo, Eric Gordon, and Maggette and Ellis but neither of them are actually very good shooters they are more of a 1 and a 3 respectively. Even on this list only half of these guys can actually shoot 3's and stretch the floor.

Your other 4 starting spots are rock solid and you already have a great big on the bench. How do you upgrade Ray Allen if he is still one of the top 7 or 8 at the postion in the league and those that are better are either already max or soon to be max contract players?

+1


We're trying to win a championship this year. Ray isn't going anywhere...

Let's see what the other expirings can bring by 2/18/10...

[Kids Are Alright]

If we could get a guy like Rudy Gay, long term, at a good price I wouldn't think twice about it.
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Well, that's a young franchise player you're talking about there. That requires getting a low lottery pick.

[Hemingway]

If we could get a guy like Rudy Gay, long term, at a good price I wouldn't think twice about it.
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Well, that's a young franchise player you're talking about there. That requires getting a low lottery pick.

Why on earth did you choose "kids are alright" as your name? I realize you probably liked our young guys a few years back, but it makes you come across as an apathetic child rapist.

[hiphop1]

Its a reference to The Who