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Re: ALL TRADE TALK HERE! 

Post#161 » by Rich Rane » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:47 pm

Open Trade Threads Merged, Locked Trade Threads Gone...just doing a little cleaning. Some of you really cluttered up the board.
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Post#162 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:13 pm

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Yeah, keep telling us that, buddy, we know better.


PS: How's China?


With all this Amare talk, it made me think: I would really, really prefer Bosh.
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Post#163 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:19 pm

Iggy might be on the block.
How about Harris/CDR/Hassel for Iggy.
Then Yi/Lee/Dallas 1st/Simmons for Amar'e.
Sign Lowry if we don't get Wall.
Draft Turner.

PG Lowry
SG Turner
SF Iggy
PF Amar'e
C Brook
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Post#164 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:39 pm

^I don't know how I feel about that team.
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Post#165 » by Pugsley_2491 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:44 pm

^^Ya I'll pass on that, too.
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Post#166 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:56 pm

So you would rather:
PG Devin
SG Turner
SF CDR
PF Yi
C Brook

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Post#167 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:02 pm

I'd rather have neither team, actually, haha. This team is inherently flawed, and quite honestly, I don't think the acquisition of Amar'e will fix it. In both of your scenarios, I think Evan Turner would need to turn into a real franchise type player, but I don't see that happening. He's sick, love his game, but a top five player in the league? I'm skeptical of that.
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Post#168 » by deviljets7 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:06 pm

I realize Devin's value is way down due to his injuries, but considering Iggy has around $30 million more on his contract and the demand of PGs vs wings, I don't see the reason to throw in CDR as well.
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Post#169 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:33 pm

I've abandoned that cliche. Point guards are rarely more important then wings.
Look at the history of title winners and contenders, most of them have just a decent point guard, but an absolute stud wing(s).

Edit: And usually a stud big man.
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Post#170 » by deviljets7 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:48 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:I've abandoned that cliche. Point guards are rarely more important then wings.
Look at the history of title winners and contenders, most of them have just a decent point guard, but an absolute stud wing(s).

Edit: And usually a stud big man.


Fair enough, but would Iggy necessarily qualify as that stud wing?

Even if we throw out the PG vs SG/SF argument, I think the $30 million difference in contracts would certainly balance the scales IMO.
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Post#171 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:53 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:I've abandoned that cliche. Point guards are rarely more important then wings.
Look at the history of title winners and contenders, most of them have just a decent point guard, but an absolute stud wing(s).

Edit: And usually a stud big man.


Fair enough, but would Iggy necessarily qualify as that stud wing?

Even if we throw out the PG vs SG/SF argument, I think the $30 million difference in contracts would certainly balance the scales IMO.

The yearly amount would only be about 2 mill more then Devin and CDR's combined salary next season even if we just acquired him.
I was just throwing another idea out there though, not saying I love it.
Just a little frustration combined with creativity.
You do have to admit though, Iggy is a solid scorer, a stud defender and a really good playmaker, although it hasn't amounted to much team success, which has to be taken into account, along with the fact that Philly is even supposedly shopping him.
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Post#172 » by deviljets7 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:56 pm

VCP,

One other aside, if the Nets were to finish with the #2 or 3 pick and get Turner, I'd like to be able to use Lee or CDR with the DAL pick (or our 2nd rounder) to move up and grab Eric Bledsoe if possible. Chad Ford currently has Bledsoe #20 on his big board and the #2 PG prospect in the draft.
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Post#173 » by deviljets7 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:00 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
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vincecarter4pres wrote:I've abandoned that cliche. Point guards are rarely more important then wings.
Look at the history of title winners and contenders, most of them have just a decent point guard, but an absolute stud wing(s).

Edit: And usually a stud big man.


Fair enough, but would Iggy necessarily qualify as that stud wing?

Even if we throw out the PG vs SG/SF argument, I think the $30 million difference in contracts would certainly balance the scales IMO.

The yearly amount would only be about 2 mill more then Devin and CDR's combined salary next season even if we just acquired him.
I was just throwing another idea out there though, not saying I love it.
Just a little frustration combined with creativity.
You do have to admit though, Iggy is a solid scorer, a stud defender and a really good playmaker, although it hasn't amounted to much team success, which has to be taken into account, along with the fact that Philly is even supposedly shopping him.


I like Iggy's game and he's doing better than I realized.

One minor quibble though this might be nit-picking. Say we don't get Turner, the lack of outside shooting could be a pretty big issue with a Iggy/TWA combo on the wings.
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Post#174 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:59 pm

deviljets7 wrote:VCP,

One other aside, if the Nets were to finish with the #2 or 3 pick and get Turner, I'd like to be able to use Lee or CDR with the DAL pick (or our 2nd rounder) to move up and grab Eric Bledsoe if possible. Chad Ford currently has Bledsoe #20 on his big board and the #2 PG prospect in the draft.

You really like Bledsoe?
I think he is crazy turnover prone and a combo guard.
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Post#175 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:02 pm

deviljets7 wrote:[I like Iggy's game and he's doing better than I realized.

One minor quibble though this might be nit-picking. Say we don't get Turner, the lack of outside shooting could be a pretty big issue with a Iggy/TWA combo on the wings.

I don't think it is nit-picking, it's a legitimate concern, even if we get Turner, he hasn't proven he is much of an outside threat.
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Post#176 » by deviljets7 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:29 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
deviljets7 wrote:VCP,

One other aside, if the Nets were to finish with the #2 or 3 pick and get Turner, I'd like to be able to use Lee or CDR with the DAL pick (or our 2nd rounder) to move up and grab Eric Bledsoe if possible. Chad Ford currently has Bledsoe #20 on his big board and the #2 PG prospect in the draft.

You really like Bledsoe?
I think he is crazy turnover prone and a combo guard.


There's no doubt he's raw (college freshman), but he does seem pretty tough and a good defender. Inconsistent outside shooting is listed as a concern, but he's hitting 44% from 3 in college. He also apparently has the wing span of a 6-foot-6 guy.

With the turnovers, he might not be a true PG, but you'd have Iggy, TWA (so much better than T-Will) and possibly Dooling to help out with some of the PG responsibilities. Plus having a guy who can bury the 3 is pretty imperative if you're going to have Iggy and TWA around.
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Post#177 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:29 pm

It is a legit concern, and like you mentioned before, the lack of team success is also something I'm skeptical about. I like Iggy, and I think he'd be ideal in certain situations, but I don't know if we have that situation just yet.
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Post#178 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:31 pm

Here's a legitimate question:

Would you rather trade for Iggy and preserve a chunk of caproom or keep Harris and S&T for Rudy Gay in the offseason, likely losing players like CDR and Lee anyway and maybe a pick?
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Post#179 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:38 pm

I'd rather have Iggy in that case.
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Post#180 » by SteveNets15 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:40 pm

Hey what do you guys think about this trade if we don't get Wall.

Nets trade Harris,TWA,Yi and our Dallas1st for Nash.I'm not sure if this gets us Nash or if its to much.I mean if its not enough we could always throw in a future pick because this trade obviously stops the rebuilding and puts us in win now mode.I figured they would want TWA over CDR or Lee thats why i put him in there.

We'd save some money in this deaI 2010/11.I wouldn't have a problem signing Amare if we had Nash.Would we be able to sign Rudy Gay and Amare if this went down?We'd still have our lottery pick and 2nd rnder.Re-sign Hayes pick up a back up for Brook.I don't watch a lot of college ball but i'm sure we can grab a good wing player with our pick if we can't sign Rudy or whoever.

top 4 pick/2nd rnder
Nash/Dooling
CDR/Lee
Rudy/Hayes
Amare/Humps
Brook

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