Amare's possible destinations include Sac-town

[dozencousins]

DRAINO :

Once again you show you dont know what the heck your talking about

1st AMARE is not worth half of what you are willing for us to give up reguardless if of his contract status

A. KMART + K9 OR KMART + NOC is the best i would offer for him we do not need to add JASON & shouldn't in your deal .

B. J.THOMPSON has no heart ? What have you been smoki'n JASON has a ton of heart is main flaw is he likes to complain way to much he needs to learn to pick & choose his battles with the refs !

C. You make thousands of trade posts alot of times you make trade proposals just for the sake of doing them !

D. Name a better western conference center ? AMARE is not a true center & frankly there are not that many in the leauge alot of teams put big power forward type players in at the center position all the time at least 50% of the teams now do that ! The game is changing or are you not watching it ? HMMMMMMMM your logic is wrong though its your opinion as well as it is my opinion you are way wrong once again !

You can choose to discredit what i say but it wont matter to me I have alot of knowledge of the game currently & all aspects of what goes on .

Since the days of a younger SHAQ along with guys like EWING,OLAJAWON,ROBINSON to name a few did we last see a decent ammout of teams have true quality centeres that played the game.

Guys like YAO , ODEN etc. are either shaped like twigs & they are soft or they are always severly injured .

I am glad you believe your right but your not " but you keep thinking you are "
It's neither here nor there anyways we wont get AMARE anyways

our most likely trade partners are in no specific order

THE BULLS
THE MAVERICKS
THE BLAZERS
THE JAZZ
THE ROCKETS
WITH OUTSIDE POSSIBILITIES OF

BOSTON,WIZARDS,HEAT & RAPTORS

Teams like the RAPTORS & WIZARDS would have to be willing to trade BOSH & HAYWOOD though

I named 9 teams but those 9 are our most likely trade partners

If you think i am wroong then when our trades are all said & done see how many teams outside of these 9 we trade with & if we trade outside of these 9 it will likely only because a 3rd team is involved !

[SacTownKings4Life]

You're the one who comes off as rude and offensive to everybody.

So I guess that makes YOU the official spokesperson for the ENTIRE realgm board...

Anyway, did you even read what I said? I'll say this again, Amare has played 3 games short of 3 full seasons of the last 4 (including this season). Martin? Not even close. There's no arguing against this, as evidenced by the crap you just pulled out of your ass.

Did you read what I said?

Yeah, he may be playing well at the moment, but consider longevity. How much more running and jumping can he do by the time this team matures to the point where we can actually start CONTENDING for something? (still probably several years away) Not to say that he's gonna COMPLETELY degenerate, but will he be capable of playing at this same level a few years down the line? AND will he be able to do so WITHOUT the services of Steve Nash? I'm just asking.

...

I don't care if you're infatuated with Kevin Martin, but I do care if you use that in place of logic.

Right, just because I think the team is better off without Martin I'm a hater

Hypocricy at it's FINEST! You claim that you are not a Martin "hater" just because you want him off the team, yet you accuse ME of essentially being a homosexual because I do not think Martin should be traded. Interesting...
And BTW, exactly how OLD are you anyway, considering you still find gay jokes amusing? (ha ha! I called him gay! nyah nyah!) Seriously, you clearly have a little growing up to do.

dude stop posting like you are the smartest man on the planet and get over your man crush on kevin martin, the dude is sorry and will not be in a kings uniform for very long... deal with it

So if I started posting like a complete idiot, would that make you feel a little bit better about yourself? It amazes me how often and adamantly intellegence is frowned upon in this country...
And what are you, Wolfay's right-hand man? Wherever I see one of you, the other is never far behind.

Let me go on the record that I have not ONCE ever called ANYBODY a hater or made other type of derogatory personal attacks towards anybody. All I have done is express my DIFFERENCE OF OPINION in regards to the issue of trading Kevin Martin. However in THIS case, I have simply questioned WHY we would trade Martin for Stoudamire who has ALSO endured SERIOUS INJURIES over the course of his career. If you cannot handle an opinion which differs from your own without abstaining from said personal attacks, you OBVIOUSLY have no business in a forum. Everybody is not going to agree with you 100% of the time. I don't expect everybody to agree with ME all the time either, but I expect it to be a respectful discussion. As I have stated before, either respond with an intelligent opinion why you disagree with me, or do not speak to me at all. I am a grown man and I have no desire to engage in kiddie "name calling" games.

[Wolfay]

I've given you plenty of intelligent arguments SacTownKings4Life, but you threw all of them out the window with bogus arguments like "longevity". How the hell can you argue longevity when Martin's longevity is even more in question than Amare's? Ridiculous arguments that are pulled out of your ass like that are only going to get you labeled a homer. A retinal detachment is a freak injury (unlikely to happen again), and since his knee surgery, he's been perfectly FINE. You sneeze on Martin and he turns to dust! At least with Amare, he fills a couple of needs of which need to be filled BADLY. Martin doesn't contribute much to this team. Points are only going to get us so far.

And like I said earlier, people find you as rude and off-putting...

Easy there turbo. You post like I offended you or something.

Any questioning of what you say is automatically taken as an insult! That right there is pretty childish if you ask me. A grown man would be able to argue without taking things so personal. So, for Martin's sake man, take a chill pill!

I'm pretty much done here. You don't like to play nice with others, so it kind of makes it a drag to talk to you.

[KF10]

Everybody should chill out.

[Draino]

SacTownKings4Life is a grown man who's day job is Kevin Martin's nut holder ... i'm just sayin'

[SacTownKings4Life]

I've given you plenty of intelligent arguments SacTownKings4Life, but you threw all of them out the window with bogus arguments like "longevity". How the hell can you argue longevity when Martin's longevity is even more in question than Amare's? Ridiculous arguments that are pulled out of your ass like that are only going to get you labeled a homer. A retinal detachment is a freak injury (unlikely to happen again), and since his knee surgery, he's been perfectly FINE. You sneeze on Martin and he turns to dust! At least with Amare, he fills a couple of needs of which need to be filled BADLY. Martin doesn't contribute much to this team. Points are only going to get us so far.

How did I throw anything out the window? You offered YOUR arguement, and I offered mine. It's as simple as that. You're the one who apparently became offended by my criticism of Amare Stoudamire, for whatever reason. The guy had knee surgery. Period. The question I asked you was, is he going to still be effective 5 years down the line when the Kings are finally ready to start SERIOUSLY contending? AND can he excel without the incredible playmaking abilities of Steve Nash? You never acknowledged or answered my question, which is a valid one. In this instance, I am not arguing against the notion of trading Kevin Martin (which you and your friend seem to be confused about), instead I am asking, is Stoundamire the guy to turn this ship around? Can we count on him in the future any more than we can count on Kmart right now? You can't tell me microfracture knee surgery is NOT a major variable to consider.

And like I said earlier, people find you as rude and off-putting...

Easy there turbo. You post like I offended you or something.

Any questioning of what you say is automatically taken as an insult! That right there is pretty childish if you ask me. A grown man would be able to argue without taking things so personal. So, for Martin's sake man, take a chill pill!

I'm pretty much done here. You don't like to play nice with others, so it kind of makes it a drag to talk to you.

So 3 people (You, Draino and Nicky Nix Nook) qualify as EVERYBODY?
You have it all wrong. Every time I SAY something, it is misinterpreted as an attack on the person I'm talking to, for whatever reason. If you had read my RESPONSE to that message, you would have seen me say that I was NOT in fact offended in any way by anything he said. IT WAS A MISINTERPRETATION ON HIS PART. Ok?

You want childish?

SacTownKings4Life is a grown man who's day job is Kevin Martin's nut holder ... i'm just sayin'

Draino is similar to a politician. He never has anything MEANINGFUL to say regarding the issues, and his only method of offense consists of smearing the name of his opponent to discredit him, therefore making himself look not necessarily better than his opponent, but simply "not as bad" as the other guy. I ask you, Wolfay, how on earth can you read the preceding quote, and STILL make the case that the things I say are childish? It THAT a positive example of how you should debate with a person? (as opposed to my posts) Honestly...

[Wolfay]

Again, I never said I wanted Amare. I'd just take him over Kevin Martin and that's it. I was only arguing the notion that Amare is as big or a bigger risk than Martin injury-wise. Other than a FREAK injury, he's been perfectly fine the past four seasons, and Martin has been the opposite. It's no fluke, and I don't know how you can deny that.

For the record, I'd rather have some interior DEFENSE (which Amare isn't of course), but if Amare is the best we can get, than go for it in my opinion. He's a superior option than holding on to Kevin Martin, and at least he can score and rebound which our current bigs are currently incapable of.

Also for the record, whatever Draino says doesn't necessarily reflect my own opinion.

[SacTownKings4Life]

Again, I never said I wanted Amare. I'd just take him over Kevin Martin and that's it. I was only arguing the notion that Amare is as big or a bigger risk than Martin injury-wise. Other than a FREAK injury, he's been perfectly fine the past four seasons, and Martin has been the opposite. It's no fluke, and I don't know how you can deny that.

For the record, I'd rather have some interior DEFENSE (which Amare isn't of course), but if Amare is the best we can get, than go for it in my opinion. He's a superior option than holding on to Kevin Martin, and at least he can score and rebound which our current bigs are currently incapable of.

Also for the record, whatever Draino says doesn't necessarily reflect my own opinion.

That's fine. I'm not arguing against your personal preference of Stoudamire over Martin. The issue of who's injury risk is greater remains to be debated, however in Stoudamire's case, it still IS a risk, none the less. What I am saying is that you are trading a player who has a HISTORY of nagging injuries, and recieving a player who has undergone microfracture knee surgery and as a result, may have a FUTURE of potential health problems down the line. So when you really think about it, you are not avoiding the risk factor either way you slice it. That's my whole point.