What to do, What to do?

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What to do, What to do? 

Post#1 » by Wolverine » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:04 am

Jazz are playing really well but still seem to be lacking in some areas. With Boozer playing so well i would have wanted to keep him & try and sign him next year. After last game it seems as though Millsap, Memo & AK flourish without him. Do we trade him now or try & resign him? Do we look to trade MEmo instead. It seems as though most of our $ are tied up in the 4 position with Boozer, Millsap, Memo & Ak who are all true $'s. What to do????
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#2 » by DelaneyRudd » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:39 am

I don't think we over analyze one game against a team with the worst back court in the league.
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#3 » by Neon Black » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:16 am

AK has been playing well with Boozer healthy, Memo picked up his play a few games ago and the same old questions apply to Millsap; We know he can bring it like that more than just a few times a season, but what about an entire season with starter minutes? He has an even tougher time against length than Booze and that can wear down on a player.
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#4 » by StocktonShorts » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:34 am

DelaneyRudd wrote:I don't think we over analyze one game against a team with the worst back court in the league.


I think you meant frontcourt, but I agree with this. I don't want to take anything away from Millsap -- the guy stepped up big time and had the best game of his career when the team really needed it -- but he wasn't exactly going against quality opponents.

Because no team will know if they can re-sign Boozer after this season the Jazz aren't likely to get much for him right now. Their best plan with Boozer/Millsap/Okur is to wait until the off-season. You make Boozer an offer like $12M/year. If he thinks he can get better elsewhere then the Jazz can do a sign-and-trade. If they do re-sign Boozer then you look at moving Okur or Millsap.

With all the noise about the next CBA hinting at player contracts being DRASTICALLY smaller this summer is going to be very interesting.
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#5 » by DelaneyRudd » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:54 am

Yeah, I meant front court.
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Post#6 » by HammerDunk » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:40 am

DelaneyRudd wrote:I don't think we over analyze one game against a team with the worst back court in the league.

I know you guys love to use this idea a lot, but guess what? Boozer had 16 points against them AT HOME earlier this year. Sap doubled that. It's not fair to say this when Boozer couldn't come even close to what Sap did against them.
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Post#7 » by DelaneyRudd » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:57 am

It's one freaking game. Everyone was ready to trade sap and call him a bust earlier in the season. Everyone here is so damn fickle.
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Post#8 » by HammerDunk » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:04 am

DelaneyRudd wrote:It's one freaking game. Everyone was ready to trade sap and call him a bust earlier in the season. Everyone here is so damn fickle.

I have said that Sap has been solid all season, which he has been. I know he isn't Boozer, but he is a hell of a steal for what we got him for. I just get sick of people saying it was stupid to match the offer, especially considering the issues Portland is having with their bigs. I bet they would kill to have Sap on their team right now. People around here love to make up weaknesses for Sap and blow them out of proportion, when the truth is, he is SOLID. :roll:
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Post#9 » by GP » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:11 am

Wolverine wrote:Jazz are playing really well but still seem to be lacking in some areas. With Boozer playing so well i would have wanted to keep him & try and sign him next year. After last game it seems as though Millsap, Memo & AK flourish without him. Do we trade him now or try & resign him? Do we look to trade MEmo instead. It seems as though most of our $ are tied up in the 4 position with Boozer, Millsap, Memo & Ak who are all true $'s. What to do????


Take it easy. It was one game, against the kings no less.
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Post#10 » by QuantumMacgyver » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:41 am

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DelaneyRudd wrote:It's one freaking game. Everyone was ready to trade sap and call him a bust earlier in the season. Everyone here is so damn fickle.

I have said that Sap has been solid all season, which he has been. I know he isn't Boozer, but he is a hell of a steal for what we got him for. I just get sick of people saying it was stupid to match the offer, especially considering the issues Portland is having with their bigs. I bet they would kill to have Sap on their team right now. People around here love to make up weaknesses for Sap and blow them out of proportion, when the truth is, he is SOLID. :roll:



^^^ +1

And it isn't JUST ONE GAME. He did it for the majority of the season last year, while being injured I might add. Millsap isn't going to put up 32 points on the regular, and he isn't going to put up 32 points against the leagues best bigs, but name 5 players who can. Bosh... ummmm.... Dirk.... it's a pretty slim list.

Millsap does everything the Jazz need him to. If they can get a productive defensive big, not necessarily an elitist, just a serviceable big, then a lot of his weaknesses will wash out. Millsap is easily worth his contract.

If I'm the Jazz owner I would much rather pay Millsap under $10 Million a year to put up 10 and 10, with limited minutes over 70+ games, than pay Booz over $12 million a year at starter minutes, to put up 19 and 14 for 40 games a year.
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Post#11 » by Wolverine » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:42 am

It doesnt change the fact we have 4 potential all star quality power forwards
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Post#12 » by The Sheik » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:50 am

Wolverine wrote:It doesnt change the fact we have 4 potential all star quality power forwards


what?...haha.

I see one, maybe two.
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Post#13 » by Wolverine » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:15 am

WhenBoozer, Millsap, Okur & Ak play their best they all could be allstars
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Post#14 » by QuantumMacgyver » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:13 pm

The Sheik wrote:
Wolverine wrote:It doesnt change the fact we have 4 potential all star quality power forwards


what?...haha.

I see one, maybe two.
Wolverine wrote:WhenBoozer, Millsap, Okur & Ak play their best they all could be allstars


Wolverine is right. Three of them have already proven that they are all-star caliber players when they are at their best.
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Post#15 » by The Sheik » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:08 pm

please. Boozer, yes. AK will not "play his best" or have the all-star stats he once had. AK will not be putting up 16 8 3 3 2 anytime soon.

Being an all-star once doesnt make you all-star quality.

I think Boozer has proven when healthy that he is an all-star player. Milsap hasnt had a chance to prove himself yet so we will see. Memo is not all-star quality, in fact he has had better seasons after his all-star appearance and has not been recognized. Simply put if Boozer wasnt hurt Memo wouldnt be an all-star. They needed a player from the Jazz and they needed a big...that is why Memo got in.
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#16 » by HammerDunk » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:07 pm

The Sheik wrote:please. Boozer, yes. AK will not "play his best" or have the all-star stats he once had. AK will not be putting up 16 8 3 3 2 anytime soon.

Being an all-star once doesnt make you all-star quality.

I think Boozer has proven when healthy that he is an all-star player. Milsap hasnt had a chance to prove himself yet so we will see. Memo is not all-star quality, in fact he has had better seasons after his all-star appearance and has not been recognized. Simply put if Boozer wasnt hurt Memo wouldnt be an all-star. They needed a player from the Jazz and they needed a big...that is why Memo got in.

He's done this more than once this season.
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#17 » by Wolverine » Mon Feb 1, 2010 3:36 am

Now you're nitpicking. Fact is we have approx $45mil for power forwards. Somethings gotta give. question is what?
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#18 » by The Sheik » Mon Feb 1, 2010 4:12 am

HammerDunk wrote:He's done this more than once this season.


but can he do it for an entire season? No. Anybody is capable of doing things more than once, consistency is the big factor. I just dont see AK ever averaging what he did in the past. That is not to say I am not happy with his play of late.
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#19 » by The Sheik » Mon Feb 1, 2010 4:14 am

Wolverine wrote:Now you're nitpicking. Fact is we have approx $45mil for power forwards. Somethings gotta give. question is what?


Simple. Boozer will leave because KOC made the terrible decision to offer Memo an extension. Given his preference to stay in Utah (memo) KOC could have just let Memo and Booz play it out and decide in the off-season who stays and goes. Jazz need to stop giving out contracts because of loyalty.
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Re: What to do, What to do? 

Post#20 » by DelaneyRudd » Mon Feb 1, 2010 4:27 am

Memos extention isn't for a ton of money. It's less than what he is getting now.

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