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Gasol - "Now we can go back to winning games again" 

Post#1 » by Slava » Tue Feb 2, 2010 11:21 am

Gasol was asked about Bryant’s new record and offered politically correct – and believably authentic – commentary (“I’m proud of him; I congratulate him”) before adding the kicker: “Now we can focus on winning games again.”


Gasol has settled on the way he wants to answer when talking about Bryant’s greatness, describing Bryant as a sensational player who is “very aggressive to score.” It’s a compliment, yet it’s sort of not.


“Obviously we’re not making a concerted effort at pounding the ball inside,” Gasol said after the loss.


Bear in mind that Phil Jackson was a little miffed at Bryant on his historic night, too. Jackson told the team at halftime, when Bryant had 23 of the Lakers’ 50 points, that Bryant was “forcing the action.” Jackson also said in the halftime locker room, alluding to the 29 points Bryant needed in the game to pass Jerry West: “Let’s get him over the hump, so we can play team ball again.”


Are the Lakers better when they go inside?

“One hundred percent,” Gasol said.


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Post#2 » by SashAlex » Tue Feb 2, 2010 11:29 am

It's Kobe's fault...

I just hope these words will get through Kobe's mind.
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Post#3 » by Rox_Nix_Nox » Tue Feb 2, 2010 11:43 am

Pau is getting annoying again. He always asks for the ball, then in the actual game doesn't do **** but pass it out for low % jumpshots.
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Post#4 » by chefy » Tue Feb 2, 2010 1:13 pm

WOW...but you can't blame him and good thing he let this out now. I hope kobe learn from this and I hope he doesn't take it the wrong way.

I have seen worst from kobe though
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Post#5 » by snaquille oatmeal » Tue Feb 2, 2010 1:40 pm

Pau playing the media.
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Post#6 » by Slava » Tue Feb 2, 2010 2:06 pm

Poor choice of words?

Who was out here playing through injuries and "Winning Games" when Pau was rehabbing the hammy he strained by not taking the summer off? Yes that's the same guy who's responsible for your new found efficiency, a playoff victory and most importantly a championship.

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I'd have no problem if he just said "Lets get back to playing team ball".
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Post#7 » by b shaw20 » Tue Feb 2, 2010 3:03 pm

Rox_Nix_Nox wrote:Pau is getting annoying again. He always asks for the ball, then in the actual game doesn't do **** but pass it out for low % jumpshots.


I'm with Pau on this one.....what he is saying is fact. the Lakers are at their best when they punish teams in the paint. if we rely on perimiter shots, more often we will lose bec shooting is not the Lakers strength.

Guards need to be more patient than jacking up when they are open. This does nothing to get guys in the flow and even an open 3 is less percentage shot than drew or pau 5 feet from the hoop.

a repost, re entry pass now and then would be nice. The Lakers IMO, are running too much ISOs and not creating plays for one another. the game would be so much easier for everyone, including KB.
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Post#8 » by semi-sentient » Tue Feb 2, 2010 3:07 pm

Kobe definitely needs to tone it down and take no more than 20 shots per game, but that doesn't change the fact that Pau is still a pussy. Maybe if he stopped playing like a bitch he'd get the ball more? He needs to toughen up and start demanding the ball more, which will first require him to be more assertive and get better post position. He's fighting for touches with Bynum and I think that's a big part of the problem. Yet another part is that our outside shooting sucks and so the spacing isn't there for easy post entry passes.
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Post#9 » by Sedale Threatt » Tue Feb 2, 2010 3:10 pm

j-far wrote:Poor choice of words?

Who was out here playing through injuries and "Winning Games" when Pau was rehabbing the hammy he strained by not taking the summer off? Yes that's the same guy who's responsible for your new found efficiency, a playoff victory and most importantly a championship.


He could have been more tactful, especially on a night where Kobe shot so well.

But the overarching point remains -- we rarely utilize either of our big men enough. Most teams would kill to have one good post option, and we have two. Yet we'll go entire stretches without either of them touching the ball.

Case in point was last night, where Pau and Bynum got a combined 10 shots in 56 minutes of action. That is flat-out inept basketball. Meanwhile Randolph gets 18 shots, and Gasol touched the ball enough to earn 12 foul shots.

Really, if you want to blame anybody, I'd put Phil at the top of the list. He's the coach, he needs to set the agenda. Because this isn't just Kobe. This is Fish, Artest, Jordan, Shannon, just about everybody but Lamar. Some of the quick, low-percentage jump shots we take...it's beyond maddening.

Why not at least pump it inside first, then let the offense develop from there? We don't have to do it every time. But we can do that a hell of a lot more frequently than we're doing.
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Post#10 » by Sedale Threatt » Tue Feb 2, 2010 3:17 pm

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Rox_Nix_Nox wrote:Pau is getting annoying again. He always asks for the ball, then in the actual game doesn't do **** but pass it out for low % jumpshots.


I'm with Pau on this one.....what he is saying is fact. the Lakers are at their best when they punish teams in the paint. if we rely on perimiter shots, more often we will lose bec shooting is not the Lakers strength.

Guards need to be more patient than jacking up when they are open. This does nothing to get guys in the flow and even an open 3 is less percentage shot than drew or pau 5 feet from the hoop.

a repost, re entry pass now and then would be nice. The Lakers IMO, are running too much ISOs and not creating plays for one another. the game would be so much easier for everyone, including KB.


100% dead-on. We've talked about this for years.

One of the big things I notice, besides the fact that teams are taking advantage of our mediocre shooting by sagging off, is how isolation-oriented we are. Kobe, Pau, Bynum -- all of them are isolation type players. The ball gets to either of them, and it just stops .

You get the ball to Kobe, you might never see it back. Bynum is even worse.

Even with Pau, who is otherwise a really good passer. He gets the ball, faces up, throws a couple of jab steps, and before you know it 8 or 10 seconds are off the shot clock.

All of that just kills the flow in our offense.
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Post#11 » by magic1fan » Tue Feb 2, 2010 3:45 pm

pau needs to shut up and grow a pair. he has siad things like this before but yet he shrinks like a dick in cold water when the pressure is on. he got punked by the cavs and the celtics. heck even last night he didn't really do anything. pau get's open looks because of the attention kobe recieves not the other way around. if it weren't for kobe's game last night we would have been blown out and never even in a position to win.
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Post#12 » by Kilroy » Tue Feb 2, 2010 4:22 pm

Pau played soft when it counted against Cleveland and Boston... And he did sit for a long time...

But I don't know how you can defend Kobe when they lost the damn game...

F**k tact... Play ball...

I just hope both Pau and Kobe are focused now...

And they definately SHOULD be pounding the ball inside as much as possible... Outside shots are for spreading the floor. I don't care if it's Pau, Bynum, Odom, Artest or even Kobe getting the touches, as long as it's for high-percentage paint shots...

And what about all the people defending Bynum because he 'doesn't get enough minutes or touches'... Why doesn't that apply to Pau too...

Saint Kobe?

When does 'battling through injuries' become less of a team oriented act and more of a selfish act?

I'll just say it, with how poorly Kobe's been shooting, no way he should have been allowed to get 44pts...
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Post#13 » by Pablo Escobar » Tue Feb 2, 2010 4:27 pm

Pau needs to play better I don't think he has a right to talk about the team playing better when he is playing garbage, Kobe has lost trust for him this season because he is struggling, Kobe and Drew are developing a nice chemistry with the pick and roll so maybe we use Drew the same way we used Pau last year
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Post#14 » by b shaw20 » Tue Feb 2, 2010 4:58 pm

Pau is a pussy? perhaps, but the dude is a legit skilled big man who is a career 19 ppg 9 rbd guy. Kevin mchale was a finesse player who was never acused of being a banger, yet he is a hall of famer.

what do you guys prefer, to have k Perkins or kwame back instead? gtfo with that crap...

pussy or not, I'd bet my right nut every team in the NBA would trade away their banger (except Howard possibly) for Pau.

The fact remains without Pau we are borderline 6-8 seed. With him we are the freakn defending NBA champions and odds on favorite this year.

stop whining about what he should be and appreciate what he is: 7 ft, legitimatelly skilled pussy.
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Post#15 » by magic1fan » Tue Feb 2, 2010 5:04 pm

b shaw20 wrote:Pau is a pussy? perhaps, but the dude is a legit skilled big man who is a career 19 ppg 9 rbd guy. Kevin mchale was a finesse player who was never acused of being a banger, yet he is a hall of famer.

what do you guys prefer, to have k Perkins or kwame back instead? gtfo with that crap...

pussy or not, I'd bet my right nut every team in the NBA would trade away their banger (except Howard possibly) for Pau.

The fact remains without Pau we are borderline 6-8 seed. With him we are the freakn defending NBA champions and odds on favorite this year.

stop whining about what he should be and appreciate what he is: 7 ft, legitimatelly skilled pussy.



actually before drew was hurt we were not a 6-8 seed,we were the number one seed in the west. pau compliments kobe great,but that the thing he compiments kobe. he is not our first option. he get's plenty of touches,if he would stop getting pushed around he could get up more shots. all this bs about pau being skilled is fine but what did that skill get him without kobe,not even a playoff game win!
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Post#16 » by what would jack bauer do? » Tue Feb 2, 2010 5:05 pm

I think Pau was just mad at the loss, Kobe tried to carry the team when our front court got spanked on the defensive end and when Pau couldn't score against his little brother. How about you stop worrying about offense so much and play some defense, maybe if you play legit defense you won't pick up so many fouls and you can stay on the floor.

I have no doubt that Kobe was intentionally trying to not score 29 last night, but when our bigs started playing Pussy ball he had to step up. Kobe was deferring to start out the halves but man, just man up and say you got outdefended by the other front court.
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Post#17 » by magic1fan » Tue Feb 2, 2010 5:09 pm

Kilroy wrote:Pau played soft when it counted against Cleveland and Boston... And he did sit for a long time...

But I don't know how you can defend Kobe when they lost the damn game...

F**k tact... Play ball...

I just hope both Pau and Kobe are focused now...

And they definately SHOULD be pounding the ball inside as much as possible... Outside shots are for spreading the floor. I don't care if it's Pau, Bynum, Odom, Artest or even Kobe getting the touches, as long as it's for high-percentage paint shots...

And what about all the people defending Bynum because he 'doesn't get enough minutes or touches'... Why doesn't that apply to Pau too...

Saint Kobe?

When does 'battling through injuries' become less of a team oriented act and more of a selfish act?

I'll just say it, with how poorly Kobe's been shooting, no way he should have been allowed to get 44pts...




no one is defending kobe but dang when is pau going to take some responsibility for his own actions? kobe was not the only one with the ball last night. pau get's plenty of touches. he acts like he was frozen out of the game or something. i have an idea for pau,instead of crying about shots or whatever learn how to box out,and grab more boards. it may not show up in the stats but his brother outplayed him last night. how about he not give up all those offensive boards to the grizz. let's use some of that length to play some nice interior defense. plus what does kobe shooting poorly prior to have to do with last night's game? the guy shot 50+%...
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Post#18 » by AmusingFiddle » Tue Feb 2, 2010 5:18 pm

I think we are over analyzing his comments. I don't think he meant anything more than lets focus on winning games and not on individual accomplishments. He doesn't want this type of questioning to permeate into to the heads of his teammates. If anything Pau has been struggling the last couple of games and yesterday was no exception. He was not himself. Though I did not watch the game, I heard the announcers talking about how he had butter fingers the last couple of games including last nights game. I don't think we will have a problem winning it all. Both Cleveland games and to this date most of the games we have lost has been due to bad shooting nights and lack of defense or boxing out (example game in Cleveland - when Pau gave up the rebound).

My Lakers when stay focused (when normal) will kick ass. LeBron can keep dreaming about championships as long as KBB is in L.A.

On another note, I was quite miffed with LeBron's antics this year. He was pissing me off when he was lip-rapping during the Lakers game. Doesn't guy learn from his past? Grow up man. Did he forget what happened last year. YOU CAN MAKE OUT THE LACK OF EDUCATION AND UPBRINGING IN HIS DEMEANOR. He is not the only one in the league but he has to be more responsible if he wants to be the face of this league.
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Post#19 » by Kilroy » Tue Feb 2, 2010 5:23 pm

I'd just wanted to add to what Pau said by pointing out that there are more to 'touches' than simply passing the ball to a big man... You have to get it to him when he has position... It shouldn't be a last resort. You have to reward the bigs for battling for spots in the paint and find a way to get them the damn ball.

Paul gets the ball 10 feet from the basket way too often. Half of it is his fault for not battling down low... Half of it is our perimeter players holding or dribbling the ball too long.

3 Sec violations add up too if you can't figure out how to get the ball to the big guy when he's got positon in time...
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Post#20 » by Slava » Tue Feb 2, 2010 5:32 pm

I wish I had the full footage for the games vs Boston and Memphis so I could precisely edit and make a montage as to why Pau is not getting the ball more.

There were occasions when he got the ball in the post and he squared up to take a jump shot with a hand in his face. Kobe on two separate occasions pointed out to Pau to get his back to the basket and then cleared to run a post-isolation for him.

We let the lead slip with Kobe on the bench for 5 long mins in the 2nd Q and Pau was in the whole time and how many shots did he get during that time? 2 shots. Pau just needs to stop pushing the blame on Kobe and correct his mistakes first.

If he was doing things right and complaining a month ago when he was getting double doubles with 15 rebs a game, then he has case for being heard loud and clear.
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