Antawn Jamison is a joke

[Scar_Tissue]

Caron Butler was having his most productive game of the season, and instead of deferring to him, good old 'black hole Jamison' had to take the most shots as per usual even though he was cold as ice.

2-17 shooting for the loser, while Butler was 6-11 going into 4th, where he was forced to watch Antwanette throw up brick after brick.

This game is a classic example of why Jamison never has, and never will have the respect of the players coaches and fans.

Butler is too talented to be stuck in the Wizards with guys who are selfish and wont pass the ball.

[LyricalRico]

Caron Butler was having his most productive game of the season

I don't think that's true. Even if it is, that's not saying much given the way he's played this season.

This game is a classic example of why Jamison never has, and never will have the respect of the players coaches and fans.

Also inaccurate. Jamison is very well respected my many.

Butler is too talented to be stuck in the Wizards with guys who are selfish and wont pass the ball.

Actually, Butler is the guy who doesn't pass or run the plays the coaches call.

Did I miss anything? Don't think so.

[no D in Hibachi]

Jamison will always have the respect of most players and coaches. I think this is an example of why Jamison has always been on losing teams, or teams just barely above .500, his entire career. The one exception was when he wasn't even a starter. He's a very efficient scorer and a good defensive rebounder, but other than that he doesn't provide much else. His leadership is overrated, his defense is pathetic, he is a pretty selfish player and a terrible passer. Last time I looked Jamison had the second lowest percentage of assists to FGA's in the league. He had a ratio of like 1 assist for every 16 shot attempts. Yi was worse, but not by much.

[montestewart]

Jamison was 2-17; yes, that's pathetic, but he is the team's go-to scorer, and a much more efficient volume scorer than anyone else on the team (except maybe Miller when he's on). Maybe Saunders should have pulled him, but he didn't, and Boston's D made it difficult for anyone to get shots off in the 4th. Miller, Boykins, Butler, they all passed to Jamison if he had a look or a spot, everyone hoping he would pull out of it, and trying to score is how scorers usually pull out of it.

As to the rest of his game, he got tired as the game wore on, but he made some slick passes, got some assists (at least one where I was sure he'd make the move himself but he gave it to Blatche), and his first quarter defense (really the whole first half) was pretty spectacular, forcing turnovers, denying Perkins and even Garnett their shots and spots. If we're going to complain about his bad defense, we can at least give him a not when he occasionally does the contrary. Before he got tired, tonight was some of the best defense I've ever seen him play.

He played hard. They lost.

CORRECTION: I conflated a Jamison assist on a Haywood dunk w/ Blatche's assist on a Young dunk; in both cases I expected a single-handed attempt rather than an assist, and was happy to see otherwise.

[Wizards2Lottery]

The great leader of men is the leader of a bunch of losers.

Dude is nothing but a sixth man in this league.

[nate33]

Haters.

Jamison had a bad game. It happens. Get over it.

[AceDegenerate]

Should've never traded Stackhouse and should've drafted Deng.

[AlohaWiz]

:nonono:

Caron Butler was having his most productive game of the season

I don't think that's true. Even if it is, that's not saying much given the way he's played this season.

This game is a classic example of why Jamison never has, and never will have the respect of the players coaches and fans.

Also inaccurate. Jamison is very well respected my many.

Butler is too talented to be stuck in the Wizards with guys who are selfish and wont pass the ball.

Actually, Butler is the guy who doesn't pass or run the plays the coaches call.

Did I miss anything? Don't think so.

I don't agree with a lot of what the OP said, but to answer your question: you missed the OP's main point (other than the fact that he has some serious Caron man-love going on), which is that Jamison chucked the Wiz out of the game. And it's not the first time. Obviously I'm a UNC fan, so naturally I'm a Jamison fan, but it's hard to deny that the guy can turn into a world class chucker in games when his shot's not falling. No question that he's a class act and he puts up solid numbers, but he can flat out shoot the team out of a game when he's cold. I'm not hating, I'm just observing.

I just don't understand why he can't realize that and look for other ways to win a game. I mean after missing 8 or 9 in a row, it's time for him to stop trying to shoot his way out of a slump and pass the dame ball. Or stop shooting 3's and move to the inside flip-shot game.

Anyway, after a 2-17 night, anyone would deserve this equivalent of an Amazingly Sucky thread.

[WashWiz54]

Sarcastic mister know it all?

[Ruzious]

Caron Butler was having his most productive game of the season, and instead of deferring to him, good old 'black hole Jamison' had to take the most shots as per usual even though he was cold as ice.

2-17 shooting for the loser, while Butler was 6-11 going into 4th, where he was forced to watch Antwanette throw up brick after brick.

This game is a classic example of why Jamison never has, and never will have the respect of the players coaches and fans.

Butler is too talented to be stuck in the Wizards with guys who are selfish and wont pass the ball.

This is the worst thread start of the year. You're complaining about selfish play and pushing the virtues of Butler? Unbelievable. The guy still hasn't adjusted his game to fit the system. And the one Wiz who is respected by players, coaches, and fans (outside of this website) is Jamison. He banged up his knee in the first quarter last night, but he came back into the game. That was probably a bad decision.

[Dat2U]

Should've never traded Stackhouse and should've drafted Deng.

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QFT

[TheSecretWeapon]

Look around at first options league-wide. Look through NBA history. You won't find a first option who reduced his shot attempts when he missed a few. There's a reason for that -- it's impossible to predict in advance which shot will go in and which won't. When someone with a record like Jamison's, the thinking always is that the next one goes. And usually that thinking is correct. In this case, it was wrong and he ends up with a terrible shooting night.

[nate33]

Look around at first options league-wide. Look through NBA history. You won't find a first option who reduced his shot attempts when he missed a few. There's a reason for that -- it's impossible to predict in advance which shot will go in and which won't. When someone with a record like Jamison's, the thinking always is that the next one goes. And usually that thinking is correct. In this case, it was wrong and he ends up with a terrible shooting night.

Give it up, TSW. Logic is not applicable on this board. Jamison should have known that he would go 2-17 and therefore not shot so much. Indeed, every player on the team should shoot 100% because they should all refrain from taking shots that miss.

[pancakes3]

Haters.

Jamison had a bad game. It happens. Get over it.

[CrymeTime]

Jamison + Butler for Calderon + Turkoglu + cap fillers + 2nd rounder

[DaRealHibachi]

Jamison + Butler for Calderon + Turkoglu + cap fillers + 2nd rounder

[Wizards2Lottery]

Jamison + Butler for Calderon + Turkoglu + cap fillers + 2nd rounder

Got anymore **** contracts you wanna dump on us?

[AceDegenerate]

It's funny how people are acting like this is the first time Jamison has gone 2-20. In 5 years here, this is HARDLY the first time. Whether as a 1st, 2nd or 3rd option.

Where are all the trade offers for this great Jamison we have? NOBODY is offering anything for the BUM, because HE is the most overpaid player on this roster. NOT Gilbert, and not even Caron.

Nobody wants the guy. The only team even WILLING to take his insane contract is the 1 team who could care less about spending, the same team who paid Larry Hughes 15 mil a year.

[montestewart]

It's funny how people are acting like this is the first time Jamison has gone 2-20. In 5 years here, this is HARDLY the first time. Whether as a 1st, 2nd or 3rd option.

Where are all the trade offers for this great Jamison we have? NOBODY is offering anything for the BUM, because HE is the most overpaid player on this roster. NOT Gilbert, and not even Caron.

Nobody wants the guy. The only team even WILLING to take his insane contract is the 1 team who could care less about spending, the same team who paid Larry Hughes 15 mil a year.

Jamison didn't shoot 2-20 the other night, he shot 2-17. Maybe I missed a game, but I just did a scan of his complete game logs, and that looks like it's his worst shooting game since he became a Wizard. I scanned Arenas and Butler and found similarly bad shooting nights. Kobe had a 4-21 this year. Volume scorers have bad games.

I've complained about Jamison's horrible defense, his softness inside, his chucking from the perimeter, his failure to pass, and occasionally what I see as his overrated (or at least inconsistent) leadership. I don't need to make up problems about Jamison. Overall, he's an efficient scorer and a superior rebounder.

The problem with moving Jamison is his age combined with his contract, not his production, which goes a long way toward offsetting his well known shortcomings.

[verbal8]

It's funny how people are acting like this is the first time Jamison has gone 2-20. In 5 years here, this is HARDLY the first time. Whether as a 1st, 2nd or 3rd option.

Where are all the trade offers for this great Jamison we have? NOBODY is offering anything for the BUM, because HE is the most overpaid player on this roster. NOT Gilbert, and not even Caron.

Nobody wants the guy. The only team even WILLING to take his insane contract is the 1 team who could care less about spending, the same team who paid Larry Hughes 15 mil a year.

I am not a big fan of Jamison's contract but it is currently pretty close to matching his production. His points and rebounds measure up with Zach Randolph, STAT, Maggette, David West, Al Harrington. These guys are making in the 9 to 11 million dollar range(except Randolph). So at 11.6 you can say Jamison is slightly overpaid at most.

Mike James is by far the most overpaid player on the Wizards. He has scored 18 points for the season and is making $6.4 Million.