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Post#1 » by TASTIC » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:52 pm

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Post#2 » by Kerrsed » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:52 pm

i win
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Post#3 » by TASTIC » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:53 pm

Kerrsed 1-0


On another note, I never really appreciated the greatness of your username. So appropriate...
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Post#4 » by Kerrsed » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:54 pm

TASTIC wrote:Kerrsed 1-0


On another note, I never really appreciated the greatness of your username. So appropriate...


Thank you! :lol:
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Post#5 » by MaryvalesFinest » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:54 pm

Wonder if something is going to happen before thread 4 :lol:
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Post#6 » by Nando88 » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:55 pm

damn it... lol
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Post#7 » by Qwigglez » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:56 pm

Yes. A contract extension.
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Post#8 » by DirtyDez » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:03 am

"Mikhail Prokhorov, the team’s deep-pocketed new owner, wants to make a splash, and signing Stoudemire to an extension accomplishes that."

- Amare and his agent are salivating as they read that statement.

- STAT for T-Will, Simmons, Yi + Dallas' pick or NJ 2011 1st.

- We get young talent, cap relief, draft pick(s) and Yi making Sarver millions.
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Post#9 » by binkar » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:15 am

DirtyDez wrote:"Mikhail Prokhorov, the team’s deep-pocketed new owner, wants to make a splash, and signing Stoudemire to an extension accomplishes that."

- Amare and his agent are salivating as they read that statement.

- STAT for T-Will, Simmons, Yi + Dallas' pick or NJ 2011 1st.

- We get young talent, cap relief, draft pick(s) and Yi making Sarver millions.


Where is this pulled from DirtyDez?
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Post#10 » by WildBohr12 » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:16 am

I like the NJ deal, just as long as we turn around and trade Yi and Jrich for a worthy big man. Maybe Jamison.
Im a huge T-Will fan though, I think itd be good for Clarks developement and confidence as well.

Nash/Dragic
Twill/Barbosa
Hill/Dudley/Clark
Jamison/Lou
Lopez/Frye

Draft Dominique Jones or Xavier Henry and sign a decent big man in the off season. Meanwhile we will compete just as much as we would if we kept Amare and we have a brighter looking future.
What do you guys think?
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Post#11 » by WTFsunsFTW » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:25 am

Can someone summarize Thread 2 and get it pasted at the top? :)

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Post#12 » by dantian » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:26 am

NJ trade would be fine, though Amare will make Suns regret it and feel like on the sucker's end of the original Barkley trade to Phx and the Gasol to Lakers trade.

The Sixers deal for Iggy and Dalembert is just contradictory to the supposed purpose of clearing cap for the new CBA.

The recent win streak compared to our Dec/Jan deadmeat feeling proves one thing: Nash dribble-dominant offense no longer has the same magic as it used to. And it's better for the team and his own stats that he finally plays like Stockton and gives other good players on the team more touches on offense, particularly Amare and JRich on the current team. With Iggy in place of Amare, we'd feel forced to go back to the all-Nash way of offense and suck. But with one 14mil per contract too many compared to if Amare just walked in the summer.
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Post#13 » by DirtyDez » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:45 am

binkar wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:"Mikhail Prokhorov, the team’s deep-pocketed new owner, wants to make a splash, and signing Stoudemire to an extension accomplishes that."

- Amare and his agent are salivating as they read that statement.

- STAT for T-Will, Simmons, Yi + Dallas' pick or NJ 2011 1st.

- We get young talent, cap relief, draft pick(s) and Yi making Sarver millions.


Where is this pulled from DirtyDez?

Setting Sun? (Excerpts)
February 6th, 2010, 1:14 pm by NetIncome

BY CHRIS MANNIX

With potential suitors wary of his salary demands, Phoenix is having trouble moving Amar’e Stoudemire.

It’s like the Craigslist ad that you refresh twice to be sure it’s not a put-on: Used All-Star center. Runs the floor like a gazelle, attacks the rim and knocks down the midrange j’s. Equal value not required! As the Suns fade in the Western Conference race, the rest of the league is keenly aware that 6′ 10″ power forward Amar’e Stoudemire is on the market. While it seems like a no-brainer for Phoenix to swap Stoudemire—a potential free agent who has been dogged by questions about his attitude–the team is finding that offering a star at deep discount leads to one thing: a slew of unacceptable, almost insulting offers.

Stoudemire’s contract is not the only concern for would-be suitors. “He’s a handful,” says a source familiar with the Suns. “Great talent, lot of baggage.” Some Phoenix teammates privately wonder whether his commitment to winning (read: defense) will ever match his drive to fill a stat sheet. What’s more, Stoudemire missed 29 games last season with a partially detached retina after sitting out all but three games in 2005-06 while recovering from microfracture surgery on his left knee.

“That’s two serious injuries in five years,” says an Eastern executive. “If you are a G.M., you have to consider that before you commit to him for the long term.”

Add it all up and it equals a lukewarm market. While at least eight teams have expressed interest in Stoudemire (including Chicago, Cleveland, Golden State, New Jersey and Washington) none so far have offered anything to get Phoenix’s attention.

The last-place Nets, however, should. Mikhail Prokhorov, the team’s deep-pocketed new owner, wants to make a splash, and signing Stoudemire to an extension accomplishes that. Stoudemire’s attitude is likely to improve in a new environment, and he could be a perfect complement to uptempo point guard Devin Harris and low-post threat Brook Lopez.

The cost would be steep; any deal for Stoudemire is likely to include New Jersey’s first-round pick, which would give them the best chance at the No. 1 choice. But cornerstone power forwards in the prime of their careers don’t become available every day. With a top pick in their pocket the Suns would give their fans hope for the future. And Stoudemire, finally, could move on.

- AZWildByNature posted it on the previous thread page 98
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Post#14 » by ruiner » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:48 am

I feel like a broken record when talking about NJ deal and how it's not what you guys think it is.

Thread 2, page 80, one of the last things Traxxe said about a trade


Talks are slowing at the moment. The teams that are interested gave their offers. We know about them. Cleveland has taken a back seat. Heat won't offer more than JO and crap. Philly has passed and waiting to see if it can get a better deal done but the offer is still there and could possibly go through later. Bulls talk never got too far. Amare's rhetoric is putting off teams more than his play is helping his marketability. Nets trade stagnated as they resisted the idea of picks and Twill. Kinda just blah right now. I'm thinking the real pressure begins and things heat up intensively before the deadline.

Suns are going to make an offer by Monday here on an extension. Won't be max but will be above the Aldridge deal moneywise. Whatever that means.
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Post#15 » by WildBohr12 » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:49 am

Thats what Traxxe hears, its not him doing the trade....anything is possible
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Post#16 » by ruiner » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:51 am

WildBohr12 wrote:Thats what Traxxe hears, its not him doing the trade....anything is possible


Of course I know it's not him doing it. But people keep bringing up Twill/1st rd picks like it was offered or on the table.
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Post#17 » by WildBohr12 » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:52 am

I've heard he was initially, then NJ wised up and took him outta the scenario.
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Post#18 » by DirtyDez » Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:56 am

If us getting T-Will means we can't get a pick then i'm fine with that. Courtney Lee is young and a good defender but Dub makes the deal. I hope Kerr is feeling the same way. I'm also fearing Sarver taking any deals just because Yi is included since he would bring in tons of money with half of China buying his jersey and packing US Airways Center.
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Post#19 » by Mr. Sun » Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:02 am

ruiner wrote:I feel like a broken record when talking about NJ deal and how it's not what you guys think it is.

Thread 2, page 80, one of the last things Traxxe said about a trade


Talks are slowing at the moment. The teams that are interested gave their offers. We know about them. Cleveland has taken a back seat. Heat won't offer more than JO and crap. Philly has passed and waiting to see if it can get a better deal done but the offer is still there and could possibly go through later. Bulls talk never got too far. Amare's rhetoric is putting off teams more than his play is helping his marketability. Nets trade stagnated as they resisted the idea of picks and Twill. Kinda just blah right now. I'm thinking the real pressure begins and things heat up intensively before the deadline.

Suns are going to make an offer by Monday here on an extension. Won't be max but will be above the Aldridge deal moneywise. Whatever that means.


I read somewhere that it was rumored Suns going to offer $15 a year for 4 years which is probably more than he will get under the new CBA.
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Post#20 » by toucansma » Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:07 am

15 *4 is a good deal for Amare. I can understand why he wants a lot, I just wish it was like Steve Nash (who actually got paid way less than he was worth based on later results). I blame this on the Lakers and Gasol who is not worth the contract they signed him too. I don't blame Amare for looking at that. Just hope something works out, where he doesn't hamper us. I wonder about us re-signing Amare, and dumping J-Rich instead to gain flexibility.

P.S. Anyone know what Joe Johnson is going to do (if he is reupping with the Hawks or going to NY, etc).

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