ESPN: "Celtics Should Get Iguodala"

[EJay33]

I'm not sure what is going on with the Dalembert renaissance this season, but I'm not buying it long-term. The guy is very limited offensively and I have my doubts that he can be this effective over the length of his contract. We'd be cursing him like we did for years with Blount, however, taking back Sammy D would probably be a necessity if the Celtics wanted Igs.

What makes no sense to me are these rumors about Iguodala to the Suns. The Suns practically give salary away, I remember them dumping Joe Johnson for practically nothing. Why would they want Iguodala's deal?

One thing that I have seen mentioned is Philly throwing in Speights - forget that thought right now. No chance Philly is including him, that man can really play and has a bright future in this league, he is hardly a throw-in in a salary dump trade, he is an integral part of their rebuilding process. I am fairly certain he's be getting minutes right now if the 76ers weren't trying to showcase Dalembert for potential trades.

Also, to everyone gushing over Iguodala's stats - How do you explain what happened in January once Allen Iverson joined the team? Iguodala went from a good stats on a bad team guy to someone scoring 13ppg on 40% shooting as Ivy's 2nd banana. I know he isn't a franchise player and I don't think he's worth $13/$14 million per year, either, and he'll be making big bucks for a loooong time. Monta's deal is a lot more team friendly and I think Danny would be wise to pursue that option if it's really available first.

[GreenDreamer]

I'm not sure what is going on with the Dalembert renaissance this season, but I'm not buying it long-term. The guy is very limited offensively and I have my doubts that he can be this effective over the length of his contract. We'd be cursing him like we did for years with Blount, however, taking back Sammy D would probably be a necessity if the Celtics wanted Igs.

What makes no sense to me are these rumors about Iguodala to the Suns. The Suns practically give salary away, I remember them dumping Joe Johnson for practically nothing. Why would they want Iguodala's deal?

One thing that I have seen mentioned is Philly throwing in Speights - forget that thought right now. No chance Philly is including him, that man can really play and has a bright future in this league, he is hardly a throw-in in a salary dump trade, he is an integral part of their rebuilding process. I am fairly certain he's be getting minutes right now if the 76ers weren't trying to showcase Dalembert for potential trades.

Also, to everyone gushing over Iguodala's stats - How do you explain what happened in January once Allen Iverson joined the team? Iguodala went from a good stats on a bad team guy to someone scoring 13ppg on 40% shooting as Ivy's 2nd banana. I know he isn't a franchise player and I don't think he's worth $13/$14 million per year, either, and he'll be making big bucks for a loooong time. Monta's deal is a lot more team friendly and I think Danny would be wise to pursue that option if it's really available first.

Do not underestimate what playing with Rondo would mean to Iggy. Iverson killing iggy? What a shocker. Rondo would make him look like an All-Star. It is actually hard to think of that many players who would be a better fit alongside Rajon than Andre. They are premier ball hawks with insane athleticism. Want to talk about lightning fastbreaks, not only off of steals, but long rebounds. The two of them would be nasty together.

[cisco]

Trade for Iggy? I'm in.

[sully00]

Iggy is a very nice player - he certainly doesn't belong in the can't shoot department. He is a smart player and can play good D against everyone - and is a good ball handler.. Iggy for Ray Allen would be a great deal. I don't think Sammy D. would ruin us - the guy can be motivated and would give us good length too.

He is a nice player but he most certainly does not shoot the ball well. 40% eFG on jump shots is what it is and it is 72% of his attempts that is the same as Rondo worse than that he is only shooting 44% in what is considered "close," at this range Rondo is shooting 66%.

You can be a good player without a jump shot and Iggy is, but the bigger problem is that he plays with the ball in his hands, 47% of his FG's assisted compared to Pierce at 58%. Which is why he has the assist totals he has and maybe the fact that he doesn't play with a traditional play making pg feeds into this but it wasn't significantly different when he played with Andre Miller.

I don't see him as a good fit with Rondo and Pierce, and more of a concern is that his game has slipped since he signed his contract specifically defensively, it is also really hard for me to watch this team shoot the ball and think that this guy is the answer.

[GreenDreamer]

Iggy is a very nice player - he certainly doesn't belong in the can't shoot department. He is a smart player and can play good D against everyone - and is a good ball handler.. Iggy for Ray Allen would be a great deal. I don't think Sammy D. would ruin us - the guy can be motivated and would give us good length too.

He is a nice player but he most certainly does not shoot the ball well. 40% eFG on jump shots is what it is and it is 72% of his attempts that is the same as Rondo worse than that he is only shooting 44% in what is considered "close," at this range Rondo is shooting 66%.

You can be a good player without a jump shot and Iggy is, but the bigger problem is that he plays with the ball in his hands, 47% of his FG's assisted compared to Pierce at 58%. Which is why he has the assist totals he has and maybe the fact that he doesn't play with a traditional play making pg feeds into this but it wasn't significantly different when he played with Andre Miller.

I don't see him as a good fit with Rondo and Pierce, and more of a concern is that his game has slipped since he signed his contract specifically defensively, it is also really hard for me to watch this team shoot the ball and think that this guy is the answer.

The problem is that we are having HUGE issues with athleticism. The Hawks just utterly own us in that department, and it isn't like we can move Paul and KG. So getting a guy like Andre helps to tilt the table a little bit back in our direction, because he is a 10 athletically. Rondo and Iggy could do A LOT to cover up for Paul, KG and Perk

[Avalanche]

Iggy is a very nice player - he certainly doesn't belong in the can't shoot department. He is a smart player and can play good D against everyone - and is a good ball handler.. Iggy for Ray Allen would be a great deal. I don't think Sammy D. would ruin us - the guy can be motivated and would give us good length too.

He is a nice player but he most certainly does not shoot the ball well. 40% eFG on jump shots is what it is and it is 72% of his attempts that is the same as Rondo worse than that he is only shooting 44% in what is considered "close," at this range Rondo is shooting 66%.

You can be a good player without a jump shot and Iggy is, but the bigger problem is that he plays with the ball in his hands, 47% of his FG's assisted compared to Pierce at 58%. Which is why he has the assist totals he has and maybe the fact that he doesn't play with a traditional play making pg feeds into this but it wasn't significantly different when he played with Andre Miller.

I don't see him as a good fit with Rondo and Pierce, and more of a concern is that his game has slipped since he signed his contract specifically defensively, it is also really hard for me to watch this team shoot the ball and think that this guy is the answer.

The problem is that we are having HUGE issues with athleticism. The Hawks just utterly own us in that department, and it isn't like we can move Paul and KG. So getting a guy like Andre helps to tilt the table a little bit back in our direction, because he is a 10 athletically. Rondo and Iggy could do A LOT to cover up for Paul, KG and Perk

this last bit is spot on, and yeh we would be losing some outside shooting but still... we can re-adjust an offense if it means improving the team overall

[campybatman]

I could see Philadelphia not trading Iguodala and Dalembert with no one on their depth to replace them. Maybe you can get by with Young at small forward, but who replaces Dalembert's defense.

No, I think the one player they really wish they could trade is Brand.

I can't tell you I hear everything, but I do hear some things. We all have "sources;" some are more reliable than others. I have a handful that I trust implicitly. Still, I can't guarantee the information is totally pure, but here is some of it:

While the speculation revolving around Iguodala has been most prevalent lately, one of my sources who is familiar with the situations of the Sixers and the Houston Rockets suggests that the Sixers "are not prepared to break up their team."

Could be.

My source described the Suns and Rockets rumors as "old news," as if to say there's nothing substantial with either team, at least for now. Comcast SportsNet reported that, according to a source, the Suns "desperately want Iguodala."

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/ ... ixers.html