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Re: Top 15 Players 

Post#21 » by That Nicka » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:40 pm

NYK 455 wrote:It's funny how some question others for putting Duncan at 2 on their lists, and then put Kobe at number 2 on their own. Duncan has been better than Kobe this year imo.



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Re: Top 15 Players 

Post#22 » by NYK 455 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:07 pm

That Nicka wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:It's funny how some question others for putting Duncan at 2 on their lists, and then put Kobe at number 2 on their own. Duncan has been better than Kobe this year imo.



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Same guy who says Kobe was better than Duncan and better than Shaq on the three-peat. Awesome.
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Re: Top 15 Players 

Post#23 » by That Nicka » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:09 pm

NYK 455 wrote:
That Nicka wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:It's funny how some question others for putting Duncan at 2 on their lists, and then put Kobe at number 2 on their own. Duncan has been better than Kobe this year imo.



lul


Same guy who says Kobe was better than Duncan and better than Shaq on the three-peat. Awesome.



Please show me the quote where I said that.
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Re: Top 15 Players 

Post#24 » by NYK 455 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:12 pm

My bad, I think I confused you with someone else. Sorry bout that.
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Post#25 » by Prolific Scorer » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:38 pm

LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Dwyane Wade
Chris Paul
Kevin Durant
Brandon Roy
Deron Williams
Steve Nash
Chauncey Billups
Chris Bosh
Carmelo Anthony
Pau Gasol
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Re: Top 15 Players 

Post#26 » by CellarDoor » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:43 pm

maxwellcu wrote:Duncan #2, huh? You know it's 2010, right?


Cute, but yes.
Fun facts about 2010 (and the latter part of 09)

It's less than a percentage point lower than his best TS%. He's scoring, efficiently.

By REB%, it's his best year. Period.

He's not dominating SAS's possessions w/ his lowest usage rate ever. Though, given Parker's play, maybe he should.

The Spurs record includes many games missed/injured for Gino and Parker. Bonner's out now. They're playing in the west, and Jefferson's been awful.

Is he prime TD? No, but I contend he's the best PF in the league, with Dirk a bit behind. He's got the worst 2nd best player in the west's elite teams...I can understand not putting him 2nd, but I certainly don't understand chastising him when Kobe's been good but not ridiculous and Wade's been, frankly, looking uninterested for a large portion of the season.
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Post#27 » by TAI8 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:08 pm

This is such a misconception that I see in every Spurs related thread..Has Jefferson been awful? Defensively yes, no question about it...But other than that he has been doing everything that was expected from him from the get go...to be our 4th option and relieve pressure off of the Big 3. He has taken mostly good shots within the flow of the offense and drove when he had to..He has done a good job of finding the balance between settling for jump shots and slashing towards the basket..He has even knocked down the 3 ball which is a must in a lineup featuring Duncan and Parker..His raw per game stats may not look shiny especially coming from a double digit million dollar player, but his offense has made an impact on our offense and it shows (7th in the league as of right now as opposed to 13th last year)..
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Post#28 » by That Nicka » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:17 pm

CellarDoor wrote:I contend he's the best PF in the league, with Dirk a bit behind. He's got the worst 2nd best player in the west's elite teams...



Cute, but no.

1. He's not even a PF
2. He doesnt play on an elite team
3. His 2nd option is Tony Parker who is a better 2nd option than many 2nd options on teams ahead of his


Mavs 2nd best player is Jason Kidd or Jason Terry
Thunder 2nd best player is Russell Westbrook
Magic 2nd best player is VC or Lewis
Hawks 2nd best player is Josh Smith


The Spurs are actually only a couple games better than the Raptors whose 2nd best player is Bargnani :lol:
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Post#29 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:55 pm

1. Tolliver
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Bryant
5. Nash
6. Wade
7. Anthony
8. Paul
9. Roy
10. Duncan
11. Bosh
12. Howard
13. Billups
14. Nowitski
15. Evans
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Re: Top 15 Players 

Post#30 » by kaulkhara15 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:05 am

1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Wade
4. Dwight
5. Melo
6. Duncan
7. Dirk
8. Paul
9. Bosh
10. Durant
11. Roy
12. D-Williams
13. Nash
14. Gasol
15. J Johnson
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Post#31 » by Quincy » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:02 am

For this season only up until this point:

1.LeBron(His playmaking, shooting, and footwork improvement have impressed me)
2.Kobe(Was the best IMO up until December; still the best offensively, just kind of limited defensively with the injuries)
3.Wade(I dread him and his game this year, I think he's on cruise control waiting for this summer but he's got the goods to show up when he wants, just doesn't bring it night in and night out)
4.Melo(Still is more skilled than Durant in the post and is a better scorer; but that's not a slight b/c Durant is a better rebounder)
5.Durant(see above)
6.Howard(great to see he added the banker to his arsenal and still the premier defensive anchor)
7.Dirk
8.CP3(Normally Paul would be higher but this year, like Wade, has been lackluster. But atleast he lays it all out unlike Wade on the floor.)
9.Nash
10.Bosh
11.Johnson(The man's been lighting the league up since the new year began)
12.Williams
13.Billups
14.Randolph
15.Kaman
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Post#32 » by Cthulhu » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:49 am

CellarDoor wrote:
maxwellcu wrote:Duncan #2, huh? You know it's 2010, right?


Cute, but yes.
Fun facts about 2010 (and the latter part of 09)

It's less than a percentage point lower than his best TS%. He's scoring, efficiently.

By REB%, it's his best year. Period.

He's not dominating SAS's possessions w/ his lowest usage rate ever. Though, given Parker's play, maybe he should.

The Spurs record includes many games missed/injured for Gino and Parker. Bonner's out now. They're playing in the west, and Jefferson's been awful.

Is he prime TD? No, but I contend he's the best PF in the league, with Dirk a bit behind. He's got the worst 2nd best player in the west's elite teams...I can understand not putting him 2nd, but I certainly don't understand chastising him when Kobe's been good but not ridiculous and Wade's been, frankly, looking uninterested for a large portion of the season.


Worst 2nd best player of the west's elite teams? Lmao!

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Re: Top 15 Players 

Post#33 » by Cthulhu » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:52 am

1. LBJ
2. Kobe
3. Durant
4. Dirk
5. TD
6. Melo
7. Wade
8. D12
9. CP3
10. Nash

IMO D12 and CP3 are overrated on the whole. Look what Collison is doing in N.O. Is N.O. that much worse with him than CP3? Dwight's underwhelming offense just is too much for me to keep him top 5, and while great defensively, he's often in foul trouble.
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Re: Top 15 Players 

Post#34 » by kaulkhara15 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:01 am

Quincy wrote:For this season only up until this point:

1.LeBron(His playmaking, shooting, and footwork improvement have impressed me)
2.Kobe(Was the best IMO up until December; still the best offensively, just kind of limited defensively with the injuries)
3.Wade(I dread him and his game this year, I think he's on cruise control waiting for this summer but he's got the goods to show up when he wants, just doesn't bring it night in and night out)
4.Melo(Still is more skilled than Durant in the post and is a better scorer; but that's not a slight b/c Durant is a better rebounder)
5.Durant(see above)
6.Howard(great to see he added the banker to his arsenal and still the premier defensive anchor)
7.Dirk
8.CP3(Normally Paul would be higher but this year, like Wade, has been lackluster. But atleast he lays it all out unlike Wade on the floor.)
9.Nash
10.Bosh
11.Johnson(The man's been lighting the league up since the new year began)
12.Williams
13.Billups
14.Randolph
15.Kaman


Ever hear of Tim Duncan?

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