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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#81 » by Lionel Messi » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:23 am

Death Knight wrote:Bosh wouldn't want Wade here. Wade would steal all his thunder and make him play second fiddle, which Bosh has no interest in doing so whatsoever.


Actually, if Wade comes here, he's coming onto Bosh's team and Bosh recruited him.

The Raptors would certainly remain Bosh's team, seeing as how he's been here for 7 years.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#82 » by raptorontonian » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:31 am

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Death Knight wrote:Bosh wouldn't want Wade here. Wade would steal all his thunder and make him play second fiddle, which Bosh has no interest in doing so whatsoever.


Actually, if Wade comes here, he's coming onto Bosh's team and Bosh recruited him.

The Raptors would certainly remain Bosh's team, seeing as how he's been here for 7 years.


Bosh would also be making more money than Wade, and I think he would like that.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#83 » by Lionel Messi » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:42 am

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Death Knight wrote:Bosh wouldn't want Wade here. Wade would steal all his thunder and make him play second fiddle, which Bosh has no interest in doing so whatsoever.


Actually, if Wade comes here, he's coming onto Bosh's team and Bosh recruited him.

The Raptors would certainly remain Bosh's team, seeing as how he's been here for 7 years.


Bosh would also be making more money than Wade, and I think he would like that.


Wade wouldnt take a paycut. We'd have to sign and trade for him which means he gets that full max deal when he signs with miami before the trade.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#84 » by Death Knight » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:07 am

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Death Knight wrote:Bosh wouldn't want Wade here. Wade would steal all his thunder and make him play second fiddle, which Bosh has no interest in doing so whatsoever.


Actually, if Wade comes here, he's coming onto Bosh's team and Bosh recruited him.

The Raptors would certainly remain Bosh's team, seeing as how he's been here for 7 years.


It doesn't that Bosh was here before Wade. Wade will be the better player and the offensive will run through him, and not Bosh anymore. With how much Wade handles and dominates the ball, he will ultimately decide if and when Bosh gets his touches. A player doesn't average 25+ppg and 6.5+apg without handling the ball a lot and being the one to create for himself and/or others. Also, the ball is going to Wade in the clutch, not Bosh, because Bosh is a big and Wade is a small. In the clutch, the ball usually goes to a wing player.

Wade = Chris Paul.........Bosh = David West. That is how it would look like if Bosh and Wade were to play together. Wade would steal Bosh's thunder so badly that you will all cry.

I know you all hope it would be more like Kobe and Shaq, but that's just an entirely different case.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#85 » by Lionel Messi » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:19 am

Except Bosh is much better than David West
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#86 » by Death Knight » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:47 am

Lionel Messi wrote:Except Bosh is much better than David West


Right now of course, but if Wade was here, he'd make Bosh look like David West in terms of Bosh's new role and involvement on the floor.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#87 » by HighOctane » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:24 am

We'd pay a bit more luxury tax, but bringing Dwyane freakin Wade to Toronto has to mean something to MLSE. That's a lot more sales in merchandise. Wade is the closest thing we could have compared to Bron or Kobe to Toronto. Leafs just got Dion, can't we get Dwyane? Surely it'd make an exciting 2010.

Certainly Wade is getting old, but he's still good for another 4-5 years of explosive playing. As long as Bosh/Wade are somehow together our team would be much better offensively and defensively. Bargnani/Calderon/Turk would be either traded someway to make space, and I could see the latter 2 being tossed around.

It'd be a stretch to get Wade here, and it would take a lot to displace him from South Beach.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#88 » by megaton » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:21 am

i noe wades good and all but seriously LOL @ raps fans.

the dudes only won 1 championship with shaq, hes hardy reliable.

id take jj over wade any day.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#89 » by dennistokyo » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:37 am

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SDM wrote:We would be a horribly gutted team. It would take something like Bargs + DD to get it done. We also couldn't re-sign Johnson. If Bosh goes down, there's no front court depth and if Wade goes down (always a possibility with his style of play), our backup wing situation is awful. A major injury to either player and this is a lotto team. With Wade and Bosh and absolutely zero depth, it's a 40-45 win team. We're better than that right now.

I recall very similar comments about Boston and the big 3, how'd that work out for them? If your major star went down for the season, the team is screwed regardless, so I'm not sure why that's even a consideration. It is a risk I take 1000 times over.

The NBA is a star's league, period. Choosing depth over elite talent is just CRAZY. The issue of depth and role players is, by far, the much easier problem to solve. You fit the small pieces around the big ones, not vice versa.


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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#90 » by megaton » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:27 am

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miamiballer wrote:haha keep dreaming, rather let wade walk and be left with 40 + mil in cap if it came to that than be stuck with the garbage proposed here

but wade isnt leaving so this is mute

miami will be fine, at worst we land amare in trade or carlos boozer/amare/joe johnson and others in the offseason, wade isnt going anywhere

while wed be bummed out to lose bosh we have other options

wheres your source? i am just proposing trades i dont think anyone said these trades were concrete.


i dont need a source to tell that its (Please Use More Appropriate Word) to even consider wade landing in tor

while i agree that bosh is at this pt more likely to just resign in tor given the fact that you guys are playing well and he can make more $, its still a legit possibility that he could just outright sign in mia given that he can team w/ wade here and make a run and still get a max deal...but again, tor is still prob in the lead

meanwhile, there is 0 % chance wade lands in tor beacuse if he walks wed be left with 40 + mil in cap space...unless wade specifically wants out and we get an unbelievable offer wed be better off letting him walk than taking back some of the players you guys proposed...sorry but derozan and bargs dont cut it..not..even...close

heat fans were saying that you should do beasley for bosh back when you guys were losing and because if bosh leaves you truly would have been screwed as you have no cap room to improve the team. now obv it wouldnt make sense for you guys

i personally believe that bosh will prob resign in tor but IMO its his loss as i dont think tor would even win a championship with him as your best players...you guys have long term deals for vets and there is very little room for improvement, but if bosh would rather make a little more to be the man on a perennial playoff team w/ no championship hope instead of teaming up w/ wade or lebron then thats his call

all is not lost if bosh resigns in tor....miami will still have 24 mil in addition to wade to go after amare/jj/boozer...guys who will prob leave their teams (maybe not JJ)


bosh cannot get a max deal from miami, unless it is a sign and trade, but even then you guys have no good assets.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#91 » by miamiballer » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:07 pm

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bosh can get 5/100 w/ a 3 yr opt out from mia to make more money

tor can offer 6/130

again, im not saying that hell pick mia over tor's offer but still, we are offering him 100 million to play in south beach w/ wade...thats at least a legit possibility rather than having d wade sign for the mle in canada or being signed and traded for turk/bargs/crap or w/e you guys were proposing....really, we have no reason to sign and trade him unless we really like what we get back because unlike tor if wade walks we have over 40 mil in cap to improve the team
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#92 » by Death Knight » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:41 pm

miamiballer wrote:^

bosh can get 5/100 w/ a 3 yr opt out from mia to make more money

tor can offer 6/130

again, im not saying that hell pick mia over tor's offer but still, we are offering him 100 million to play in south beach w/ wade...thats at least a legit possibility rather than having d wade sign for the mle in canada or being signed and traded for turk/bargs/crap or w/e you guys were proposing....really, we have no reason to sign and trade him unless we really like what we get back because unlike tor if wade walks we have over 40 mil in cap to improve the team


The 3 year opt out would be stupid no? There is going to be a new CBA and it's not going to be as good as the one that is about to expire when they compromise at the end of it all, whether it's after a short/long lockout or not.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#93 » by NH » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:32 pm

Wade is not coming to Toronto. We don't have cap space to sign him. Bosh has a greater chance of joining Wade in Miami than the other way around, and i don't think Bosh is leaving so..
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Post#94 » by avacc19 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:23 pm

Someone said that if Wade leaves Miami, it will be to go to Chicago, his hometown. +1
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Post#95 » by Gold Chain » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:27 pm

I truly think he stays in Miami.

Don't feel bad for Heat fans over this whole scenario, but I think they might be a little more sensitive now to people constantly saying their best player will leave.

This last part of the season better be good for the Heat because the media is only going to make it harder on Wade and the fans as we move into April.
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Re: DWade to Raps - Is It Possible? 

Post#96 » by Homer Jay » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:48 pm

miamiballer wrote:^

bosh can get 5/100 w/ a 3 yr opt out from mia to make more money

tor can offer 6/130

again, im not saying that hell pick mia over tor's offer but still, we are offering him 100 million to play in south beach w/ wade...thats at least a legit possibility rather than having d wade sign for the mle in canada or being signed and traded for turk/bargs/crap or w/e you guys were proposing....really, we have no reason to sign and trade him unless we really like what we get back because unlike tor if wade walks we have over 40 mil in cap to improve the team


Bosh and Wade both publicly came out and said NO DISCOUNT to play together. Both want 6/130, and both are only going to sign with a team offering 6/130. Either they are staying with their current teams or there will be a sign and trade. Bosh will only be 26 this year. He has 10 more years before he signs a discount deal to gang up with some top guys to win a title ala Payton and Malone. This contract is all money for him... the deals for teams in another decade.
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