Kings discussing Murphy with Pacers?

[dozencousins]

If i hit the box do i do that immediatly before i type anything ?
do i copy & paste it or what
i understand the click the button part but i honestly still dont get in what order i do what without screwing up ?

any help would be appreciated ?

[RekeHavoc]

If i hit the box do i do that immediatly before i type anything ?
do i copy & paste it or what
i understand the click the button part but i honestly still dont get in what order i do what without screwing up ?

any help would be appreciated ?

The post you're quoting should be in the box with the [quote] tags that show there, and then you just type your message afterward. Give it a shot

[dozencousins]

If i hit the box do i do that immediatly before i type anything ?
do i copy & paste it or what
i understand the click the button part but i honestly still dont get in what order i do what without screwing up ?

any help would be appreciated ?

The post you're quoting should be in the box with the

tags that show there, and then you just type your message afterward. Give it a shot

I am just checking to see if i did this correct or not

[dozencousins]

I think i did it right ?

thankyou Rekohavic i guess i just learned something new I had no idea it was that easy !

[KF10]

KF10 :

I was not implying you were saying i was making excuses or anything up at all .

That said some people must think i am making stuff up i guess .
I am not a huge posted like the majority here i have 4 boys & alot going on i simply dont have a ton of time .
If i was a consitant posted that had alot more time i am sure i would have provided the article etc.
I can understand the point about that if i cant find or dont have the article at the time about making statements but i know i read it & from a sac bee article .

I personally like GARCIA'S game overall but i am very disappointed in him to be honest ! Do i dislike the guy ? answer =s No but no matter what i hope he comes back with greatness because if e is in the KINGS long term plans & helps us i am all for it . If he plays great & he is not in the teamss long term plans then he is a great assett in trades etc. I just hope he is not scenerion # 3 were he comes back & either playss badly long term or gets hurt again !

thankyou KF10 for your response though

I don't think a poster's reputation has to do anything here. It's the matter of whether or not the claims that the poster has made is factual.

I personally believe you are wrong about the Garcia's case. I don't think there has been anything suspicious about it. You probably misread the article, perhaps? I don't know.

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About Garcia.

I think he fits well for us. He provides another offensive option for the team. He does not need the ball to be effective. He spaces the floor for us, he is a tenacious defender, tough, a vocal leader and gives it his all on the court. I don't see why he is a disappointment thus far. He is what he is, a good role player that plays with his strengths.

[dozencousins]

KF10 :

I was not implying you were saying i was making excuses or anything up at all .

That said some people must think i am making stuff up i guess .
I am not a huge posted like the majority here i have 4 boys & alot going on i simply dont have a ton of time .
If i was a consitant posted that had alot more time i am sure i would have provided the article etc.
I can understand the point about that if i cant find or dont have the article at the time about making statements but i know i read it & from a sac bee article .

I personally like GARCIA'S game overall but i am very disappointed in him to be honest ! Do i dislike the guy ? answer =s No but no matter what i hope he comes back with greatness because if e is in the KINGS long term plans & helps us i am all for it . If he plays great & he is not in the teamss long term plans then he is a great assett in trades etc. I just hope he is not scenerion # 3 were he comes back & either playss badly long term or gets hurt again !

thankyou KF10 for your response though

I don't think a poster's reputation has to do anything here. It's the matter of whether or not the claims that the poster has made is factual.

I personally believe you are wrong about the Garcia's case. I don't think there has been anything suspicious about it. You probably misread the article, perhaps? I don't know.

....

About Garcia.

I think he fits well for us. He provides another offensive option for the team. He does not need the ball to be effective. He spaces the floor for us, he is a tenacious defender, tough, a vocal leader and gives it his all on the court. I don't see why he is a disappointment thus far. He is what he is, a good role player that plays with his strengths.

KF10

I used to be very high on GARCIA myself i always thought he had alot of simularities to Doug Christie & that is a compliment to him .
That said i am not saying i am not happy he is on this team but with D.GREEN & CASPPI'S play GARCIA in the long run is alot more expedable now though he wont be traded this year due to his injury & not really saying he will be anytime soon either !

I agree with what you said in your last statement so that i have no argument with
No disrespect to anyone else including you I am just not happy with GARCIA right now at all .

[KF10]

KF10

I used to be very high on GARCIA myself i always thought he had alot of simularities to Doug Christie & that is a compliment to him .
That said i am not saying i am not happy he is on this team but with D.GREEN & CASPPI'S play GARCIA in the long run is alot more expedable now though he wont be traded this year due to his injury & not really saying he will be anytime soon either !

I agree with what you said in your last statement so that i have no argument with
No disrespect to anyone else including you I am just not happy with GARCIA right now at all .

I don't think it is fair to view Garcia like that because he is injured and other players stepped up.

I look at it this in a different way. Adding Garcia for us makes us even more deeper. Well, we have to trade one of our wingmen (Nocioni more preferably) and not resign Udoka in the offseason to make this work. I think Garcia's ball handling abilities with Tyreke is an underrated factor. I think adding another ball handler like Garcia would make Tyreke's game much more ideal for the team.

[dozencousins]

IDOKU cannot be traded i believe because of the date he signed with the team .

we would trade MAY or ARMSTRONG as fillers more likely & yes i am very confident that Noc will be dealt he i believe will be packed either with martin wich i doubt or get dumped for exirings .

[KF10]

IDOKU cannot be traded i believe because of the date he signed with the team .

we would trade MAY or ARMSTRONG as fillers more likely & yes i am very confident that Noc will be dealt he i believe will be packed either with martin wich i doubt or get dumped for exirings .

I'm pretty sure you can still trade Udoka. There isn't anything in his contract that prohibits that.

Udoka has a nonguaranteed contract for the veteran's minimum salary that will run through the end of the season and pay him a prorated amount of $1.03 million. It won't be fully guaranteed until Jan. 10, 2010.

So obviously, we did not cut him and his contract finally becamed guaranteed. So, I would assume that his contract will be an ordinary contract meaning that we can do whatever to it i.e. trade, waive, re-sign or etc.

(But ideally, Udoka will not be traded. Like you said, May or Armstrong would be the fillers not Udoka.)

[SacKingZZZ]

maybe. but Garcia's age is bothersome to me, he is currently in his prime. I would much rather find another guard much closer to Evans age wise. The way i see It I want them to peak at the same time so that we have our best shot at winning a title.

Garcia isn't old or anything. There's like this belief that players limbs shrivel up and die after the age of 30. Go around the league and look at the majority of contending teams and tell me how many key pieces they have over the age of 30.

[wiltchamberlain]

On the subject of Garcia's age I agree with Mitch and SacKingZZZ. Personally I think people put to much into the credence that guys somehow lose all their abilities once they pass the ripe old age of thirty. I especially agree with Mitch's point about mileage being more important in basketball than actual age.

I also think age affects different players differently, for instance if you have a guy that relies a ton on his athleticism as he gets older I'd expect his abilities to dwindle. On the other side of the coin, a guy who's biggest attribute is his skill (shooting, passing, etc) I typically expect to continue to be valuable long after 30. I tend to put Garcia in that second category.

This of course isn't a guarantee or law, just how things seem to work out most of the time.

[longfellow44]

I think Garcia will still be an ok player for several seasons. But, I wouldnreally like all of our core pieces to peak at he same time that way we have the best shot possible of winning a title.

[SacKingZZZ]

Just look at the last team that was assembled. You had a healthy mixture of young and old players. Christie (who really is a good comparison for Garcia and his potential with this team) was already in the midst of his prime age wise when we got him. Vlade, well duh!

The one real advantage we might have is that Tyreke is the type of player that doesn't really need to be developed for years, we aren't going to have to wait too long on him. He came in the NBA with a LeBron-esque body, and no real debilitating weakness. His shot needs work, but without a shot he's already demanding double and triple teams on a nightly basis. He's not the greatest athlete but he more than makes up for that with unparalleled size and strength. That's for real people!!! If he gets that shot down we're talking D-Wade potential with less athleticism but greater size, length and strength.

[longfellow44]

^^^The issue though is that our bigs won't be in their prime for about 5-6 years. Big men tend to peak around 30. You can't just look at it as we have these talented young guys you have to take a realistic look at when our talent will be maximized and when our guys will be ready to compete for a championship. This is our opportunity to finally get headed in the right direction again, we can't afford to make a major misstep and invest in a guy who won't be here when we actual are capable of winning it all. I think that Evans will be ready to compete at that level within like 2-3 years but will the rest of our roster be ready to compete then. We don't want to sell off young talent and get older right now we kinda want to stay the same age and maybe get a single year older.

Getting a guy like Al Jefferson makes sense to me. Getting Okafor could be the right move. Drafting another center this summer is certainly going to help. Relying on Garcia to be Evans back court mate for awhile is a mistake we need to get guys that are the same age so that they can grow and gel together and develop the type of Chemistry that we need in order to win it all.

[SacKingZZZ]

I don't think this next incarnation of the team is going to be led by our bigs. It's going to be led by our PG, and maybe somebody we don't currently have on the team, possibly a big we acquire via trade or free agency.

Just look at how pivotal Hedo was to those teams. He was far from his prime, yet he was a major factor in our playoff success. I think the same could be said for most of our rookies. They know how to play the game, they can contribute in some way at any time.

[jeffjtk1234]

I don't forsee a trade being made for Murphy. I think getting Al Jeff or Okafor would be huge. Id prefer Al Jeff because I really like Aldrich for the kings in the draft. I hope we move Noci or K9 before thursday,