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I couldnt imagine having players from the 2-5 with over 50% FG with our PG shooting ~45% FG and 42% from 3....WOW!!!!
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There are very few players in the NBA who I think are less useful than Maggette
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The Cavaliers cannot afford to repeat last year��TMs mistake where they possessed a false sense of confidence with the NBA��TMs best regular season record. This created a situation where executing a deadline move felt like more indulgence than necessity.
While I realize Danny Ferry and company have identified a floor-stretching big (Antawn Jamison or Troy Murphy) as their primary need in the trade market, Corey Maggette would also undoubtedly improve Cleveland��TMs title chances and I believe to a degree neither of their primary targets would equal.
The biggest weakness of the Cavaliers is the utter absence of a second big wing who can create his own offense. The Cavaliers fully revealed this vulnerability during their shocking elimination in last year��TMs playoffs to Orlando where LeBron James was successfully neutralized. The acquisitions of Shaquille O��TMNeal, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon and Leon Powe addressed clear problems, but left that specific need still dangling attached to their title hopes.
Maggette has his glaring limitations, but he indisputably is an efficient scorer, with a career True Shooting Percentage of 58.1% and a mark of 62.6% this season. He scores more than half of his buckets in the paint and is also a human rain delay in terms of his perpetually high rate of drawing fouls and getting to the line. Opposing coaches will be unable to consistently rotate fresh wing defenders onto LeBron, whether it be the combo of Mickael Pietrus and Matt Barnes for Orlando, or Ron Artest and Kobe Bryant for the Lakers, as they must also respect Maggette's potential to hurt them.
Another requisite of any Cleveland acquisition is to have an accomplished spot-up game. Even though Maggette has largely abandoned his perimeter game with the Warriors, he has a career mark of 32.0% from distance, which is more than adequate and he will hit his open looks from LeBron kick-outs.
This season, Cleveland has a net PER production advantage at every position beyond shooting guard, where Maggette is also valuable defensively. He can defend multiple positions and is actually underrated on that side of the floor when motivated, which he clearly will be in a deep playoff run. He is equipped to guard Kobe on one possession and Lamar Odom on the next.
The motivation from Golden State��TMs perspective is purely financial. Maggette is owed just under $30.8 million over the upcoming three seasons, which are appearing to be lottery-bound campaigns for the Warriors. Maggette isn��TMt part of the long-term picture and for a losing team that will likely be sold within the next 18 months, he is an unnecessary luxury. A wink and a nod part of the deal will be for the Warriors to waive Zydrunas Ilgauskas, who they can buyout for a reduced amount of his remaining 09-10 salary for even additional savings.
While I realize Danny Ferry and company have identified a floor-stretching big (Antawn Jamison or Troy Murphy) as their primary need in the trade market, Corey Maggette would also undoubtedly improve Cleveland��TMs title chances and I believe to a degree neither of their primary targets would equal.
The biggest weakness of the Cavaliers is the utter absence of a second big wing who can create his own offense. The Cavaliers fully revealed this vulnerability during their shocking elimination in last year��TMs playoffs to Orlando where LeBron James was successfully neutralized. The acquisitions of Shaquille O��TMNeal, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon and Leon Powe addressed clear problems, but left that specific need still dangling attached to their title hopes.
Maggette has his glaring limitations, but he indisputably is an efficient scorer, with a career True Shooting Percentage of 58.1% and a mark of 62.6% this season. He scores more than half of his buckets in the paint and is also a human rain delay in terms of his perpetually high rate of drawing fouls and getting to the line. Opposing coaches will be unable to consistently rotate fresh wing defenders onto LeBron, whether it be the combo of Mickael Pietrus and Matt Barnes for Orlando, or Ron Artest and Kobe Bryant for the Lakers, as they must also respect Maggette's potential to hurt them.
Another requisite of any Cleveland acquisition is to have an accomplished spot-up game. Even though Maggette has largely abandoned his perimeter game with the Warriors, he has a career mark of 32.0% from distance, which is more than adequate and he will hit his open looks from LeBron kick-outs.
This season, Cleveland has a net PER production advantage at every position beyond shooting guard, where Maggette is also valuable defensively. He can defend multiple positions and is actually underrated on that side of the floor when motivated, which he clearly will be in a deep playoff run. He is equipped to guard Kobe on one possession and Lamar Odom on the next.
The motivation from Golden State��TMs perspective is purely financial. Maggette is owed just under $30.8 million over the upcoming three seasons, which are appearing to be lottery-bound campaigns for the Warriors. Maggette isn��TMt part of the long-term picture and for a losing team that will likely be sold within the next 18 months, he is an unnecessary luxury. A wink and a nod part of the deal will be for the Warriors to waive Zydrunas Ilgauskas, who they can buyout for a reduced amount of his remaining 09-10 salary for even additional savings.
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LeBron was neutralized? You totally lose any credibility when you make that ridiculus a comment. LeBron went off against Orlando to argue otherwise is silly. The issue last year was actually not on the offensive side of the ball it was on defense. However, the Cavs still could have won had they made more of their open shots.
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Not my comment, just posted what I saw on REALGM.
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Screw Maggette, don't make sense at all. BS report IMO!
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How is this a BS report if its mentioned by both ESPN's broussard and stein.
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rly723 wrote:How is this a BS report if its mentioned by both ESPN's broussard and stein.
Given I have only read what was posted, it just seems like speculation. Also, as stated above, saying that LeBron was neutralized in the Magic series is a ridiculous statement.
From Cleveland's beat writer:
"If Cavs talked to Warriors about Maggette it was part of 3-team scheme. Cavs already have a certain ball-dominating SF."
And then there are Adrian Wojnarowski's remarks about Maggette being linked to Cleveland:
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Well at least we're not Detroit!
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Maggette for expirings (Wally S&T or Z) is fine from a GS perspective but we're not throwing in Randolph, Biedrins, Turiaf, etc. or taking back a 2 year stinker like JRich.
If that's the offer, I think we'd much rather just hold on to our guys.
If that's the offer, I think we'd much rather just hold on to our guys.
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As much as I dislike Maggette I like the balls of Ferry asking for a first in order to take him off GSW's hands. Do I think it'll work? No, but then I didn't want him anyway.
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LOL is all I can say about that conversation that he and Riely had with that...
1st rounder ( TOP 5 next year ) Are you really serious??
Mags ( top 2 player in dubs )
Waive Z to allow him to come back to you.
LOL is all I can say, no wonder suns are balking at dealing with him.
I mean even as a general fan would know never to give up a top 5 pick just to move a contract..
1st rounder ( TOP 5 next year ) Are you really serious??
Mags ( top 2 player in dubs )
Waive Z to allow him to come back to you.
LOL is all I can say, no wonder suns are balking at dealing with him.
I mean even as a general fan would know never to give up a top 5 pick just to move a contract..
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We don't really have enough to give good valuer for Amare "who we want". We don't really need Maggette and frankly he's not worth much of anything.
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understood, but to even have the brains to ask for the teams top 5 pick.. LOL
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we don't need him and nobody else seems to want him, what's wrong with playing hardball?delsol650 wrote:understood, but to even have the brains to ask for the teams top 5 pick.. LOL
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giving up a top 5 pick just to move 1 of your players is only something st.Jean or Rowel probably would have done but even a mentally incompitent GM has a ounce of brain mass to know that is ludicris. and for 1 to ask is just the same...
Btw- that aint hard ball, it's just plain stupidity
Btw- that aint hard ball, it's just plain stupidity
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If anyone remembers the stephen jackson rumors earlier in the yr, ferry also asked for sjax +1st rd pick back then too.
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TheOUTLAW wrote:There are very few players in the NBA who I think are less useful than Maggette
Haha and one of them, Troy Murphy aka T-Double--might be yours for the price of nothing. Seriously, if you guys get him you are going to regret it.
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TheOUTLAW wrote:As much as I dislike Maggette I like the balls of Ferry asking for a first in order to take him off GSW's hands.Do I think it'll work? No, but then I didn't want him anyway.
That's what cost him his shot at Stephen Jackson.
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Triumph36 wrote:we don't need him and nobody else seems to want him, what's wrong with playing hardball?delsol650 wrote:understood, but to even have the brains to ask for the teams top 5 pick.. LOL
If your team don't need him then your gm shouldn't talk about acquiring him. geez.