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Re: POTG for the rest of the season: Caron w/DAGGER 

Post#41 » by mohammed10 » Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:07 pm

montestewart wrote:Butler
Miller
Jamison


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Re: POTG for the rest of the season: Caron w/DAGGER 

Post#42 » by montestewart » Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:46 pm

mohammed10 wrote:
montestewart wrote:Butler
Miller
Jamison


Fixed

Maybe I've become too sensitive to long bomb misses early in the clock, such that I only remember that. Jamison played some energetic defense during a few stretches (nothing like the Boston game though) but otherwise he seemed unremarkable to me. I'll give him credit for not trying to force quite as much when he wasn't on.

I can see moving Miller up; he had some clutch rebounds at key points, but he still brought some of his out-of-control, barely standing up style, which at times produces regrettable passes and at times leads to him falling down.

Foye had some big rebounds too, especially toward the end, added to a solid game and big contribution to the 3rd quarter run.

I'll stick with Butler, Foye, Miller. Blatche was a tack on for a good second quarter mostly.
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Re: POTG for the rest of the season: Caron w/DAGGER 

Post#43 » by nate33 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:41 pm

We may as well unsticky this thread. There won't be anymore POTG's because we won't win any more games.
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#44 » by Halcyon » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:09 pm

POTG: John Wall!
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Re: POTG for the rest of the season: Caron w/DAGGER 

Post#45 » by JWizmentality » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:29 pm

nate33 wrote:We may as well unsticky this thread. There won't be anymore POTG's because we won't win any more games.


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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#46 » by JWizmentality » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:30 pm

Halcyon wrote:POTG: John Wall!


Not with our accursed luck.
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#47 » by no D in Hibachi » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:37 pm

D.C. Sports Bog - Dan Steinberg

11 Number of times the Wizards/Bullets have either failed to move up or actually moved down in the draft order, out of their previous 12 trips to the lottery.

Look, those of you who are willing to watch these season go down the drain for a chance at John Wall, you're dreaming. You've forgotten your history. this team does about as well in the draft lottery as D.C. does in blizzards.

In 2009, the Wizards finished with the NBA's second-worst record. The lottery ended with the worst possible scenario, and the Wizards got the fifth pick. In 2004, the Wizards finished with the NBA's third-worst record. They got bumped down a slot by the lottery, which meant they picked fifth, since the expansion Bobcats had the fourth pick. In 1995, the Bullets finished with the NBA's second-worst record. They lost two slots in the lottery and picked fourth. In 1993, the Bullets finished with the NBA's third-worst record. The lottery ended with the worst possible scenario, and the Wizards got the sixth pick.

In 2003, they didn't move from 10th. In 2002, they didn't move from 11th. In 2000, they dropped from sixth to seventh and lost the pick to Chicago by virtue of not landing a top-three pick. In 1999, the lottery bumped the Wizards down from sixth to seventh. In 1994, the Bullets didn't move from fifth. In 1992, the lottery moved the Bullets down from fifth to sixth. In 1991, the Bullets didn't move from eighth.

Only in 2001--when the Wizards had the third-worst record in the League--did the Wizards hit the lottery. That led to Kwame Brown.

So please, don't even mention John Wall's name. It's not worth the heartbreak.


Don't get your hopes up about John Wall, in fact the Wizards should plan on preparing for the second tier of lottery players because history is simply not on the Wizards side.
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#48 » by montestewart » Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:57 pm

no D in Hibachi wrote:
D.C. Sports Bog - Dan Steinberg

11 Number of times the Wizards/Bullets have either failed to move up or actually moved down in the draft order, out of their previous 12 trips to the lottery.

Look, those of you who are willing to watch these season go down the drain for a chance at John Wall, you're dreaming. You've forgotten your history. this team does about as well in the draft lottery as D.C. does in blizzards.

In 2009, the Wizards finished with the NBA's second-worst record. The lottery ended with the worst possible scenario, and the Wizards got the fifth pick. In 2004, the Wizards finished with the NBA's third-worst record. They got bumped down a slot by the lottery, which meant they picked fifth, since the expansion Bobcats had the fourth pick. In 1995, the Bullets finished with the NBA's second-worst record. They lost two slots in the lottery and picked fourth. In 1993, the Bullets finished with the NBA's third-worst record. The lottery ended with the worst possible scenario, and the Wizards got the sixth pick.

In 2003, they didn't move from 10th. In 2002, they didn't move from 11th. In 2000, they dropped from sixth to seventh and lost the pick to Chicago by virtue of not landing a top-three pick. In 1999, the lottery bumped the Wizards down from sixth to seventh. In 1994, the Bullets didn't move from fifth. In 1992, the lottery moved the Bullets down from fifth to sixth. In 1991, the Bullets didn't move from eighth.

Only in 2001--when the Wizards had the third-worst record in the League--did the Wizards hit the lottery. That led to Kwame Brown.

So please, don't even mention John Wall's name. It's not worth the heartbreak.


Don't get your hopes up about John Wall, in fact the Wizards should plan on preparing for the second tier of lottery players because history is simply not on the Wizards side.

I don't think that the system is necessarily rigged against the Wizards (that Stern has some reason for making sure the Wizards pick lower) even though I don't discount some of the allegations that some #1 picks are rigged. History is against us but, unless it is rigged, odds are not. I'm much more concerned with using the pick wisely, whatever pick it is.

As we have seen in 2004 and this year, having the #1 pick isn't a guarantee, and nearly every draft has stars (sometimes mega-stars like Wade or Paul) picked below #1, near stars picked much lower in the 1st and sometimes even in the 2nd (Boozer, Arenas) and quality starters and key role players picked everywhere; some of the latter aren't even picked, but are signed as FA. Sure, I'd love the #1, but what if, somehow, Wall wasn't all he was cracked up to be? There are many opportunities over the coming years, and someone that knows how to scout, draft, and sign gems has to be in charge to maximize the return and get us off this damn treadmill.
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#49 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:03 pm

Key to this draft is being in the top three (Wall, Turner, Cousins)... I'm not saying there isn't a potential DWade or Gil Arenas lower... but those three are as good as sure thing stars as you'll find.
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#50 » by montestewart » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:06 pm

^ Key to this draft is having a good judge of young talent making the pick. If it's EG, past history scares me regarding what will happen. If it's someone that knows how to draft, top 3 pick or not, I feel like we're in better hands.
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#51 » by FAH1223 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:29 am

DAMMIT... Blatche has 25 pts and 10 rebs and the Wiz have the lead on the Wolves! :(
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#52 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:30 am

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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#53 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:31 am

WizStorm, I think we need to celebrate each win now with its own POTG, like we used to.

I'm actually pumped to see Blatche/McGee/Howard/Singleton out there! They along with Ross and even Nick Young have made this a better team.

I think there will be MANY wins to come.
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#54 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:32 am

montestewart wrote:^ Key to this draft is having a good judge of young talent making the pick. If it's EG, past history scares me regarding what will happen. If it's someone that knows how to draft, top 3 pick or not, I feel like we're in better hands.


eg has his flaws as a gm but i think his drafting is not one of them. micheal redd. andray blatche. dom mcguire. the only draft choices u can really fault him on is blair and pech. and if he hadnt traded the 5th pick he would have drafted either curry evans or flynn which would have turned out great.
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#55 » by Hoopalotta » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:33 am

7 Day for the win! He was fantastic!
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Re: POTG: Hopefully Nobody and we get 1st pick 

Post#56 » by montestewart » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:01 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:
montestewart wrote:^ Key to this draft is having a good judge of young talent making the pick. If it's EG, past history scares me regarding what will happen. If it's someone that knows how to draft, top 3 pick or not, I feel like we're in better hands.


eg has his flaws as a gm but i think his drafting is not one of them. micheal redd. andray blatche. dom mcguire. the only draft choices u can really fault him on is blair and pech. and if he hadnt traded the 5th pick he would have drafted either curry evans or flynn which would have turned out great.


EG seems to draft for under-the-radar, high ceiling potential, which is a high risk strategy nowadays; likely more development time, and a greater likelihood that picks won't pan out, but if they do, it they may be lost to another team or cost a lot to retain. The cheap contracts of young players is pointless if they can't contribute. Blatche was a good pick, but he took awhile to develop, and could have been lost to another team had he not gotten in trouble. McGee as yet has contributed little, and McGuire's contribution last year was a numbers game (that's not saying I don't like them, just that they aren't there yet). Taking Redd and Blatche into account, his drafts with Milwaukee, DC, and NY seem average at best.

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