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Post#1 » by kam_soluusar » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:28 am

So I start it!

Get rid of him, the idiot has just done an Isaih.

Now lets sign 3 more no game hacks on Max contracts. Hey, I hear that Mobley, Francis and Kato are all making a comeback, and that Moochie Norris can still Ball. While we are at it, Let's get Marbury back from China to play for us, Trade Yao away to a contender in the Western Conference, and start snorting Cocaine, of a mentally challenged Hookers Arse.

All this would make more sense than trading Landry away. Daryl Moron is oficially, the dumbest GM in the game today.

Moron, I HATE you. And I am sure that others agree. You traded away one of the future Stars of the NBA. and you got screwed in the backside for your trouble. Moron went to MIT did he? Who's penis did he blow, to graduate?
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Re: Fire Daryl Moron 

Post#2 » by RIPskaterdude » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:38 am

Wow...you really liked Landry... :o
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Post#3 » by kam_soluusar » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:48 am

Does it show? I wasn't sure if I was being assertive enough.
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Re: Fire Daryl Moron 

Post#4 » by Jaykoolzboy » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:51 am

kam_soluusar wrote:So I start it!

Get rid of him, the idiot has just done an Isaih.

Now lets sign 3 more no game hacks on Max contracts. Hey, I hear that Mobley, Francis and Kato are all making a comeback, and that Moochie Norris can still Ball. While we are at it, Let's get Marbury back from China to play for us, Trade Yao away to a contender in the Western Conference, and start snorting Cocaine, of a mentally challenged Hookers Arse.

All this would make more sense than trading Landry away. Daryl Moron is oficially, the dumbest GM in the game today.

Moron, I HATE you. And I am sure that others agree. You traded away one of the future Stars of the NBA. and you got screwed in the backside for your trouble. Moron went to MIT did he? Who's penis did he blow, to graduate?


My 2 cents on why we traded Carl

1. Luis Scola or Carl Landry, one of em must go, either one is deserving 34+mins of PT, but this aint gonna happen since none of em can play C.
2. Carl Landry is making 3 mil this and next year, that means he's expiring next year, you really think we can retain this guy with something like MLE? I am afraid he is going to ask for something around 8-9.5 mil per year if he can keep up his stats, we gonna lose him unless we decide not to resign Luis Scola.
3. I think Luis Scola is more consistent than Carl Landry, this is what Rick Adelman is looking for in his Princeton offense, also IMO Scola is a better fit than Carl Landry with Yao back next year.
4. Luis Scola exp this year, I think we will do everything to re-sign him back to multi-years contract, no need to worry about Carl next year.
5. We desperately need someone that can score effectively in the swing man position, why not just get one of the best scorer in the league?
6. Kevin Martin understands Rick's system, and I think he is one of the ideal guy you can bring into the system, he is going to adopt in instantly

After all this is a championship move by Morey, I am on the same boat with him, trust me you guys wont miss Carl Landry once you see KMart ignites up those 3s, dude is a true player.

Brooks/Lowry/Sergio
Kevin Martin/Ariza/Taylor
Shane Battier/Ariza/Budinger
Luis Scola/This year's Draft
Yao Ming/Hayes/Armstrong

That looks like a championship contender to me.
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Re: Fire Daryl Moron 

Post#5 » by GetMoney » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:52 am

no team will ever win a ring with scola as a starter
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Re: Fire Daryl Moron 

Post#6 » by Jaykoolzboy » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:53 am

GetMoney wrote:no team will ever win a ring with scola as a starter


Lol, Argentina won the Olympic gold medal with Scola as their starting PF.
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Post#7 » by YoungMoney23 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:05 am

Morey better have some brilliant piece of bull up his ass like signing a major name or getting a high lottery pick to dig himself out of this hole...
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Post#8 » by Aaron Brooks » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:11 am

VC#15 wrote:Morey better have some brilliant piece of bull up his ass like signing a major name or getting a high lottery pick to dig himself out of this hole...


What hole? Why are you guys overvaluing Landry and undervaluing Kmart? and doubting MOREY :evil:

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Post#9 » by Teckon » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:16 am

VC#15 wrote:Morey better have some brilliant piece of bull up his ass like signing a major name or getting a high lottery pick to dig himself out of this hole...



Kevin Martin is some sort of major name given Rockets' available resources. Do you seriously think Rockets can sign players better than Kevin Martin in the off season? Rockets need a good SG and Kevin is a Top SG (below the level of Wade, Johnson, Kobe, Roy). As a SG, Martin is better than Iggy IMO

The only negative part of Martin being his fragile body.

In the last four-plus seasons - since he became a starter in the 2005-06 season - Martin has played in 285 games, which means he has missed 97 games.

That's OK, he has played 60 more games than McGrady, and 48 more than Yao Ming.
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Post#10 » by knicksNOTslick » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:37 am

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6124105/

A few days ago, Morey was a genius... now he's a moron?
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Post#11 » by Alex_De_Large » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:53 pm

landry > ariza
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Post#12 » by bubba » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:57 pm

as much as i didnt wanna see landry leave, im glad were getting kmart. landry would have def wanted a giant payraise so it made sense to keep scola. better chance of resigning him. with brooks and martin in the backcourt, that just spreads the court for yao to work. barring any injuries, i see us doin pretty good next year.
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Post#13 » by Rendezvous » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:48 pm

I don't understand the trade.
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Post#14 » by Rendezvous » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:12 pm

Don't worry.

Remember when we traded for Lowry?

Most people on this board were disapointed.

I think this trade will have the same effect.
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Post#15 » by College Boy » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:29 pm

Goshamolly.... This is the most idiotic outrage I've seen since the Balloon Boy incident. All you Morey haters need sit on a bike with no seat.... Yeah I said it.
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Post#16 » by Xman » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:45 pm

What was our biggest weakness? SG.
What type of player have we wanted to feed off of Yao? A shooter that could do damage even deep.
Who feeds off of Yao better, Scola or Landry? Scola can get his with being fed the ball and Landry does better getting fed the ball - so going to say Scola.

Also - Ariza did much better as a 3rd option instead of a main option - so, now he is the 3rd option, which will make him look better. Plus, he gets to play the 3 again.

PG - Brooks, Lowry - solid
SG - KMart, Buddinger - now a strength
SF - Ariza, Battier - super solid (I am not a big fan of Ariza but I am hoping the team was right)
PF - Scola, Hayes - I like Scola as that guy that hustles and gets his without need to be fed.
C - Yao, Anderson - If Yao is not our focus, then we have issues.
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Post#17 » by College Boy » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:51 pm

Pretty good analysis, Xman.
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Post#18 » by moofs » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:08 pm

Ok, first I'll say that this deal is confusing me a bit, but so did the Lowry one at first.

kam_soluusar wrote:All this would make more sense than trading Landry away. Daryl Moron is oficially, the dumbest GM in the game today.

Moron, I HATE you. And I am sure that others agree. You traded away one of the future Stars of the NBA. and you got screwed in the backside for your trouble. Moron went to MIT did he? Who's penis did he blow, to graduate?


Dude, chill. You're sounding like McGrady2Head. That's a bad thing, you're a better poster than that.

Landry may be a future "star", but so far, he hasn't shown the ability to rebound consistently, defend consistently, he's had some injury issues, too, and he'll be 27 next year. I DO like his efficient offensive game, but we got back another guy who has one.

Jaykoolzboy wrote:My 2 cents on why we traded Carl

1. Luis Scola or Carl Landry, one of em must go, either one is deserving 34+mins of PT, but this aint gonna happen since none of em can play C.


This is something that a lot of us have known in the backs of our heads, but that no one, self included, has really wanted to face the reality of.

2. Carl Landry is making 3 mil this and next year, that means he's expiring next year, you really think we can retain this guy with something like MLE? I am afraid he is going to ask for something around 8-9.5 mil per year if he can keep up his stats, we gonna lose him unless we decide not to resign Luis Scola.


Additionally, recall from his contract negotiations that his agent is a douche.

3. I think Luis Scola is more consistent than Carl Landry, this is what Rick Adelman is looking for in his Princeton offense, also IMO Scola is a better fit than Carl Landry with Yao back next year.


It's part of why Landry's never managed to supplant Scola, who should play at the level he's at for 3 more seasons, and can now take a few more minutes (though I, and every other fan in Houston, has REALLY appreciated The Platoon)

4. Luis Scola exp this year, I think we will do everything to re-sign him back to multi-years contract, no need to worry about Carl next year.


This does give us a good signal to send to Scola about our level of commitment. Isn't he RFA, too?

5. We desperately need someone that can score effectively in the swing man position, why not just get one of the best scorer in the league?


What? You make it sound like people are bitching about Ariza being forced to take so many shots this year.

6. Kevin Martin understands Rick's system, and I think he is one of the ideal guy you can bring into the system, he is going to adopt in instantly


Just please, no injuries :pray:

Brooks/Lowry/Sergio
Kevin Martin/Ariza/Taylor
Shane Battier/Ariza/Budinger
Luis Scola/This year's Draft
Yao Ming/Hayes/Armstrong


We also still have Hayes to swing to the PF slot like he used to do, and did in Scolandry's rookie season (starting prior to Scola replacing him, then 2nd string until Landry replaced him).

Dorsey is no big deal. I want to believe he can get it together, but the dude just... has no brain. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he is among the dumbest players in the NBA. He's had serious character issues with us, too. Bit of a KOD for a second round draft pick, no matter how perfectly built for basketball they are.

No problem with getting back Sergio. I've heard very mixed reviews on him, but he seems to have some potential.

That leaves us really, with a hole at C for this season, and potentially with some reduction at PF depth for the next few.

This year: Hayes/Anderson/Armstrong. Scola almost HAS to move out of playing C with his increased PF minutes.

Brooks/Lowry(when he comes back)/Sergio
Martin/Ariza/JT
Battier/Ariza
Scola/Hayes
Hayes/Anderson/Armstrong

It might have cut us out of the playoff race for this year, but didn't a lot of you want that anyway?
Ariza's going to do a LOT better matched against second stringers, if that's what's going to happen.

That means we got:
- Martin, an offensively efficient mostly-reasonably paid swingman (10m per year, increases by 1m per year for the next 3 seasons, finishing at 13m)
- KT expires this year, and I believe is insured
- Hilton Armstrong isn't too bad of a backup C, OH HAI he's that athletic shotblocker we've been looking for since forever! (hehe) Tolerable rebounder, gets some putbacks.
- Sergio I know very little about.
- Hilton and Sergio are "qualifying offer" players. I don't quite understand what that means, but think it means they're playing this season on a qualifying offer and become UFA's at the end of the season, at which point, we wouldn't have to sign them. They give us depth at two spots we're hurting this year, and will clear some cap space and roster spots if left unsigned.
- Dorsey still makes me a bit sad.
- We cut a large amount of salary this year. 23.426m in (8.553 should be insured), 27.12 out. Salaries are now 69.938. Luxury tax threshhold is $69.92. If those numbers are right, expect another trade, we want the dividend from being under the threshold. This trade saves 3.694 * 2 + whatever the under-tax dispersal is, or roughly 7-10m + 6m (KT insurance, at 75% of salary). As I understand it, TMac was not insured after he played. I would expect we're already under the threshold though, and something about those numbers is just wrong. They're too conspicuously close to still be over it.
- El Vino is LOW on TO's, reasonable on steals, and has become a better rebounder than he was, capable of 45/40/85.
- The trade amounted to Landry for Kevin Martin, WITH a massive expense reduction. Some people would call that a steal.
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Post#19 » by Baller 24 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:11 pm

Moofs nailed it point blank.
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Post#20 » by moofs » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:25 pm

It's always so hard to judge Morey deals at first glance. What a punk :)

My first reaction (verbatim) to this deal:
"wow, that just does not seem like a good deal"

My first reaction to Alston for Lowry:
ugh
sucks at 3p shooting
crap
it's cost cutting
we threw in the towel
fg is not good overall
fg is higher 3p is lower
but he's only been getting 21 minutes with the GRIZZLIES
not known for their pg play
and his defense has gotta be worse
which means he's pry backing up brooks
so unless this signals another deal.....
which would have to go through today
....
or unless brooks is really starter material
i think this'd be the cap on the season


I started realizing things about it within a few minutes, though. Grew to appreciate it quickly. I think we all loved that move since then...
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