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realistically do the clips really have a chance? 

Post#1 » by organix2 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:29 pm

at acquiring lebron, wade, bosh ?

chances seem to pretty low no?

if they all sign elsewhere, whats plan b?

and dont' say joe johnson(even though i think he'd be a great fit) cuz he's not leaving atl
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Post#2 » by RiversideClips » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:08 pm

WADE

If we get Wade the what do we do with Baron?
Is Wade really as good as he is made out to be?
Does Wade Know all his team mates names?

Bosh
Can you see Bosh in L.A.?
What about Deandre, Griffin & Kaman? One will have to go?
Can you see Bosh playing in the Clipper System ? Lets face it as long as Dunleavy is G.M. it WILL be HIS system no matter who the lame-duck COACH is
Is Bosh worth Max Money??

Lebron????????
Wild Card of all three mentioned unfortunately I see him signing w/ the Clips.

As long as Dunleavy is in Clipper Management I really don't think any elite player will come to the Clips. This year, Mikey D has proven to be a selfish, stubborn, whiny CONTROL FREAK when things don't go his way.
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Post#3 » by PlinkingPanda » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:32 pm

What's the issue with a rotation of Wade/EJ/Baron? Wade and Baron are ball dominate players, but I don't believe Baron has a big ego, so he would be willing to accept playing 2nd fiddle, and Wade doesn't even like being the PG of the team. EJ isn't selfish at all, and I believe we could manage to work out playing all 3 guys to cover both guard positions. The only problem I see is who takes the court at the end of the game. No doubt Wade gets the nod, but does EJ or Baron take the other spot?

Bosh is a no. We don't need him with Blake and Kaman handling the front court.

As for Joe Johnson, you'll never know. Is Atlanta willing to offer him the max?

LeBron is a low possibility. I know we'll probably go hard at him, and as much as the haters don't want to admit it, LAC is a great destination for him. It's LA, there's a good core, and the whole playing in the shadow of Kobe is the biggest load of crap you'll ever hear. He'd be in Kobe's shadow anywhere he plays. Because Kobe is still considered the best, and has rings to prove it. Playing in Los Angeles, Cleveland, or New York will make him the 2nd best player no matter what until Kobe retires or takes a huge drop in performance.

Amare is out of the question as well if he's testing FA.

T-Mac is be nice to look at if he's willing to take a decent contract. He may not be close to his former self, but he's still damn talented and a good overall player.

We just need help at SF and bench production. Most of the time this season our starters haven't had issues keeping up with top teams, but once the bench comes in it's a complete mess.
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Post#4 » by JJ LoDuca » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:42 pm

Why do people keep saying things like there's no way or chances are low when it comes to a big name FA (LeBron or otherwise) signing with the Clippers? We're gonna have ridiculous money to spend this summer, and this is the NBA. The big names go where the big money is. Big money and nice talent to play along with? We got that.

I'm not saying LeBron will sign with the Clippers. I'm saying he won't sign with the Clippers. I think he'll stay in Cleveland. LeBron aside, which FAs wouldn't want a chance to play in LA with Baron and get paid nicely while doing do? Unless you're an uninformed fan whose only defense is "Well it's the Clippers," most people seem to think the Clippers have a good shot at getting a big name.

That said, I don't like Bosh or Wade with the Clippers. I don't think they fit. LeBron, obviously, would be the ideal SF. But to answer the thread's main question, I'd agree that the chances are low when it comes to signing him. So Plan B? You said don't say Joe Johnson, but I'm saying Joe Johnson. I think that if the Hawks & Clippers offered him the same amount of money, he'd stay with the Hawks because he doesn't want to return to the Western Conference. But like I said, big names go to big money, and if DTS is willing to let him have it, this is where he could be. I wouldn't mind one more JJ in Clipper Nation.
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Post#5 » by organix2 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:44 pm

we need a superstar, i think the probability of lebron is pretty low but i'd love to have wade, he woudl be perfect, and revitalize the teams fortunes
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Post#6 » by playaloc916 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:00 am

I say we forget about Bosh completely. His position is not our greatest weakness. We lost Griffin for a whole year, and if we go for Bosh, he'll be under-utilized, because I don't think he can play SF, and he's too small to play C. We need a SF/swingman badly. Butler and Outlaw (if he resigns) is just not going to do it. Obviously, LeBron would be the ultimate pickup. Our weakest position will become our strongest one. But like some have mentioned, the chances of him coming here are slim. But there still is a chance.

Between Wade and Joe Johnson, it would be great to get either one of them, but if it were me, I would go with Johnson, because I think he can play SF, and allows the rest of our pieces to remain intact. We would then have a very solid starting lineup with Davis, Gordon, Johnson, Griffin, and Kaman.
But I think Johnson's got a good thing going with ATL, and probably won't leave unless he gets offered a much better contract than the Hawks are willing to give him. Wade is someone who looks like he'd be more willing to leave.
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Post#7 » by donemilio21 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:59 am

All the players who are mentioned here would love to play for Clippers. Yes all of them. Because we are in LA. Because we will offer them a max contract. Because we have a great supporting cast for a championship.
But the question is...Would they come and wanna play for these guys?
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Post#8 » by loflin3hree5ive » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:24 am

Rudy Gay and Carl Landry are RFAs who the Clippers could possibly turn to.
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Post#9 » by Sofa King » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:45 am

GAY!

Imagine the raise in jersey sells in We-Ho and Long Beach. :lol:
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Post#10 » by mattfish » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:39 pm

The Clippers have a bad rep around the league, which is why people think the Clips have no chance to land a big name free agent. The media exposure from winning and being on a team with good management is more valuable than the money that the Clippers can throw at somebody. When you have former NBA players making jokes about the Clippers (Webber), Superstars using the Clippers as a pawn (Kobe), Former upstanding players leaving (EB), and former Clippers embarrassed about being on the team (Brent Barry), you know the team has a bad rep. We're going to sign people who just want money and party in LA, and probably overpay them when we do.
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Post#11 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:10 pm

We are going to need to sign somebody good, if not I will be even more pissed about the deals we made.
I've been an LA Clipper fan since 1998 and that will never change. I hate our new logo and jerseys!
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Post#12 » by madmaxmedia » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:32 pm

I don't think any of these guys are coming. Not that it couldn't happen, just that if I was Clipper management I wouldn't go on a NYN-like plan of acquiring cap space at all costs.

As far as why these guys wouldn't come here? The franchise has a history/reputation (fair or not) of ineptitude, cheapness, and just plain bad luck. Money is money, but we wouldn't be the only ones offering a max deal to these guys.

Fortunately, this team has more young talent and doesn't need to resort to such desperation. I think this team has the talent to easily compete for a playoff spot next year, if it can hire the right coach and somehow make this team play better together.
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Post#13 » by 2ksports » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:37 pm

Clips just need the right coach. Too much talent to be missing the playoffs.

Is this possible?

Baron
Gordon
Griffin
Boozer
Kaman

I don't see many teams being able to beat this as long as clips get a good coach.
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Post#14 » by donemilio21 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:13 am

2ksports wrote:Clips just need the right coach. Too much talent to be missing the playoffs.

Is this possible?

Baron
Gordon
Griffin
Boozer
Kaman

I don't see many teams being able to beat this as long as clips get a good coach.


Starting with only 2 3 point shooters is not a good idea. Kaman-Boozer-Griffin would make the paint way too crowded
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Post#15 » by mkwest » Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:15 pm

My hope is that no rash decisions are made. Signing a superstar is something every team wants to do, but there's only so many of them to go around. It is not very probable to sign another team's superstar player, but there's a chance. There are solid guys that can be had for less that fill holes and provide depth. Also, trading is always an option.

If you can get one of the top 4 guys, you likely take them and worry about everything else later. LeBron is a no-brainer. Wade is a player you take and decide what to do with Gordon and Baron after the fact. Bosh isn't a great fit, but you consider it if you think he could work with Griffin in the frontcourt (i.e. move Kaman) or if you think Griffin can play the 3 (that's far from a given). Joe Johnson could come right in and play the 3 and either backcourt position depending on who is in the game.

My guess:
LeBron = Stays in Cleveland
Wade = Stays in Miami
Bosh = Stays in Toronto or heads down to Miami
JJ = :dontknow: I think Atlanta would be foolish to no re-sign him; but if he does walk walk, he could end up just about anywhere. New York, Chicago, here, Miami if they only sign Wade.

People can crack all of the jokes they want, but the fact is there is no harm in trying. If one of them shocks the world and signs here, then there's a lot of crow to be had. If we miss out, we still have a chance to improve the team.
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Post#16 » by scoobs07 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:26 am

Well,if im the Clippers, I would set up a meeting with LeBron and go over the following options:

1. You could sign with us for the max and have Kaman(all star center), Gordan(lights out shooter), Davis(15 and 8 point guard), Griffin(last years 1st overall pick) and this years lottery pick as your supporting cast.

2. You could sign with us for the max after we sign and trade Kaman and Griffin for Bosh. Your supporting cast will then be Bosh, Gordan, Davis, Jordan, this years lottery pick andwe could some good veterens like Shaq or Illgauskas.

3. We could do a sign and trade for you. This would deplete our team theost interms of overall talent, but it would get you the most money. We could then use our max slot to bring in Bosh our Stoudamire...
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Post#17 » by madmaxmedia » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:04 am

Man, Joe Johnson would be awesome to have.

I agree about all the other guys- the top FA's (the ones that will get multiple max offers) you sign if you can get them, and worry about adjusting the roster to fit THEM later.

That being said- since we have Blake Griffin, I think I would rather have JJ than Bosh.

mkwest wrote:My hope is that no rash decisions are made. Signing a superstar is something every team wants to do, but there's only so many of them to go around. It is not very probable to sign another team's superstar player, but there's a chance. There are solid guys that can be had for less that fill holes and provide depth. Also, trading is always an option.

If you can get one of the top 4 guys, you likely take them and worry about everything else later. LeBron is a no-brainer. Wade is a player you take and decide what to do with Gordon and Baron after the fact. Bosh isn't a great fit, but you consider it if you think he could work with Griffin in the frontcourt (i.e. move Kaman) or if you think Griffin can play the 3 (that's far from a given). Joe Johnson could come right in and play the 3 and either backcourt position depending on who is in the game.

My guess:
LeBron = Stays in Cleveland
Wade = Stays in Miami
Bosh = Stays in Toronto or heads down to Miami
JJ = :dontknow: I think Atlanta would be foolish to no re-sign him; but if he does walk walk, he could end up just about anywhere. New York, Chicago, here, Miami if they only sign Wade.

People can crack all of the jokes they want, but the fact is there is no harm in trying. If one of them shocks the world and signs here, then there's a lot of crow to be had. If we miss out, we still have a chance to improve the team.

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