Eating Crow

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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#41 » by JES12 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:57 am

Trader_Joe wrote:Clearly you said they were not going to be traded, as you even said though Humphries could make nice filler (meanwhile he was the reason the Nets made the trade and not filler since NJ actually took on more salary this season and next and had to waive Shawne)
Clearly half of them were not traded (right), the filler (right) allowed us to save $4.6 million this year and the other one was traded for much more than his "precieved vlue" on realgm, thus proving my point on that post. BTW, how old was that thread? Was that in October?

Are you a politician or DJ, because your ability to spin things is amazing?
Absolutely hilarious concidering the source.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#42 » by Trader_Joe » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:57 am

This is too funny...

Questions...
Why would you call T-Mac almost untradable last weekend, when there were rumors about him going to NY for months, and then it eventually happened?

Also,
Is there a single player this league who is 100% untradable?
And really does your statement that McGrady was "almost" untradable really mean anything?
(Considering he was traded and there are only about 5 or so untouchable players)

And meanwhile you also said:

There was a 95% certainty that Howard would not be traded by the deadline.

That was on the 1st page too.
Does that 5% chance make you right again?
Or does that statement mean nothing as well?

:lol:
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#43 » by JES12 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:59 am

KiDdFrESh wrote:
JES12 wrote:Carroll not traded because of precied value to us vs others...check


Did anybody else catch this? :lol:

Your kidding yourself man.

NEWS FLASH!! NOBODY WANTS CARROLL!!!

Except Donnie Nelson for some strange reason. Rick see thi9ngs the way you and I do, that is why he is our 12th man right now.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#44 » by Relentless88 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:03 am

KiDdFrESh wrote:
JES12 wrote:Carroll not traded because of precied value to us vs others...check


Did anybody else catch this? :lol:

Your kidding yourself man.

NEWS FLASH!! NOBODY WANTS CARROLL!!!

He must be the Mavs' old rem.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#45 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:03 am

Very little crow here. I was dead on with Butler's return (straight expirings), as well as Haywood's (I thought his value was either to dump Stevenson or get something like Outlaw - As it turned out Camby got Outlaw so we can assume Haywood could've gotten the same if they held onto Stevenson)

I underestimated Kevin Martin's value just a bit. I thought he'd get expirings and a little filler... something like the Hickson/1st variety. Carl Landry was actually very good value for a big contract in this economy

I actually thought there'd be more dumping teams this deadline. I guess that's my biggest crow. I'm really surprised Philly stood pat
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#46 » by JES12 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:05 am

Trader_Joe wrote:There was a 95% certainty that Howard would not be traded by the deadline.

That was on the 1st page too.
Does that 5% chance make you right again?
Or does that statement mean nothing as well?

:lol:
Sure it does. If I posted Howard + Gooden + Ross + Singleton for Butler + Haywood + Stevenson in October (or whatever month that was from), what would you have said? If you would have said "fair deal" then yeah, I am wrong. If you would have said "that sucks for Washington" then I am 100% right. What I don't get is why you can't comprehend "value to us vs. perceived value" We turned down Butler + Stevenson for Howard and if that was the best offer out their, we would have fallen in the 95% part.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#47 » by KiDdFrESh » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:06 am

Where's VC4P?? C'mon wit it with the crow man.

Season predictions ring a bell? Houston will suck and NJ would win more games than us?? Yeah you know what Im talking about man.

C'Mon Cleatus! C'MON!!!
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#48 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:09 am

KiDdFrESh wrote:Where's VC4P?? C'mon wit it with the crow man.

Season predictions ring a bell? Houston will suck and NJ would win more games than us?? Yeah you know what Im talking about man.

C'Mon Cleatus! C'MON!!!

Touche. :oops:

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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#49 » by Trader_Joe » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:11 am

In stats a 95% confidence interval is a common standard for determining the likelihood of an event.
You basically said Howard will be a Maverick after the trade deadline. If someone made a bet with you, you certainly would have taken it saying he would stay a Maverick. He is not a Maverick. And you were wrong.

Anyway....
So did you make all of your stated predictions like you did this one?
Statements vague enough to say you were right regardless of the outcome?
I would love to see those!
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#50 » by Trader_Joe » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:12 am

KiDdFrESh wrote:Where's VC4P?? C'mon wit it with the crow man.

Season predictions ring a bell? Houston will suck and NJ would win more games than us?? Yeah you know what Im talking about man.

C'Mon Cleatus! C'MON!!!

Hey it could still happen!
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#51 » by JES12 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:19 am

Trader_Joe wrote: And you were wrong.
Nope, i was completely right. Nothing in that thread you posted is anything different. You posted, argued and are still wrong. I said value to us is more than their precieved value. That was my underlining statement on that entire post and you are taking minute details without regard to my main point and you are totally neglecting what I said.

As such, you proved that you are a baiter in this thread and proved that. In addition to my quotes that you proved me right on. Thank you very much!

Now, I really wish you would not hijack threads with your own personal arguing agendas. You do it on sooooo many threads and with many different posters.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#52 » by St.Nick » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:03 am

Trader_Joe wrote:This is too funny...

Questions...
Why would you call T-Mac almost untradable last weekend, when there were rumors about him going to NY for months, and then it eventually happened?

Also,
Is there a single player this league who is 100% untradable?
And really does your statement that McGrady was "almost" untradable really mean anything?
(Considering he was traded and there are only about 5 or so untouchable players)

And meanwhile you also said:

There was a 95% certainty that Howard would not be traded by the deadline.

That was on the 1st page too.
Does that 5% chance make you right again?
Or does that statement mean nothing as well?

:lol:


You just gotta love JES. "95% certainty" doesn't equal a claim?...bwahaha! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#53 » by bcortell » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:20 pm

St.Nick wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:This is too funny...

Questions...
Why would you call T-Mac almost untradable last weekend, when there were rumors about him going to NY for months, and then it eventually happened?

Also,
Is there a single player this league who is 100% untradable?
And really does your statement that McGrady was "almost" untradable really mean anything?
(Considering he was traded and there are only about 5 or so untouchable players)

And meanwhile you also said:

There was a 95% certainty that Howard would not be traded by the deadline.

That was on the 1st page too.
Does that 5% chance make you right again?
Or does that statement mean nothing as well?

:lol:


You just gotta love JES. "95% certainty" doesn't equal a claim?...bwahaha! :lol: :lol:

I thought it was funny the first page. Now, i think it's just sad someone can't own up to being wrong.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#54 » by old rem » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:45 pm

Relentless88 wrote:
KiDdFrESh wrote:
JES12 wrote:Carroll not traded because of precied value to us vs others...check


Did anybody else catch this? :lol:

Your kidding yourself man.

NEWS FLASH!! NOBODY WANTS CARROLL!!!

He must be the Mavs' old rem.


old rem won't touch Carroll, a decent fellow if paid below $2 mill...and you really need a perimeter shooter,but as-is,a bad deal. Of course, I believe he came in trade for Diop,so it's like trading diseases. :eek1:

Carroll is like Marcus Banks or a Diop or a few others,a deal kill. It's not worth it to sacrifice the dump fees it costs to move these guys,so,at best they get passed around for one another. Marko Jaric Syndrome.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#55 » by Mr Swagtastic » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:56 pm

Carroll is nothing like Marcus Banks, Banks expires next season where as Caroll's runs for 3 more years possibly. You tell me who is worse off?

Carroll can be the better talent but he is just a one trick pony sort of like Kapono, Morrison and Reddick can flatout shot the ball but can't defend to save his life.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#56 » by Schad » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:15 pm

After a very convincing report in a Dallas newspaper that the Mavs were willing to trade anyone save for Dirk and Kidd for Bosh, I predicted that they'd get him for a too-good-to-be-true offer of Dampier, Carroll and a 2011 2nd rounder. Damn.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#57 » by Mr. E » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:24 pm

I have a plate of Crow right here in front of me (Houston will not trade for Jared Jeffries).

I have to say, guys, when you season the crow with the #8 pick of the '09 draft, an optional pick swap in '11 and some '12 NY First Round then it really doesn't taste all that bad! ;)
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#58 » by Relentless88 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:47 pm

Mr. E wrote:I have a plate of Crow right here in front of me (Houston will not trade for Jared Jeffries).

I have to say, guys, when you season the crow with the #8 pick of the '09 draft, an optional pick swap in '11 and some '12 NY First Round then it really doesn't taste all that bad! ;)


That is damn good seasoning, you probably can't even taste the crow.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#59 » by BringBackKorver » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:44 pm

I definitely thought Butler would fetch a return better than expirings.
Also thought Camby would return a late first or young player instead of nothing.

Since people like to simultaneously toot their horns, I said on many occasions that I didn't want to see Iggy traded / stood pat on the fact that we wouldn't make a non-basketball move or give him away.
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Re: Eating Crow 

Post#60 » by Rockazoids » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:49 pm

Relentless88 wrote:
Mr. E wrote:I have a plate of Crow right here in front of me (Houston will not trade for Jared Jeffries).

I have to say, guys, when you season the crow with the #8 pick of the '09 draft, an optional pick swap in '11 and some '12 NY First Round then it really doesn't taste all that bad! ;)


That is damn good seasoning, you probably can't even taste the crow.


Well don't eat to fast Mr. E, you might choke on the bones. :wink:
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