John Wall vs Evan Turner

[greenway84]

!. John Wall - Obviously not only does it fill a big need for us but he's also the best player in the draft. Aside form a team talent upgrade it would give us some media attention as well. Look what Lebron did for Cleavland. However David Stern would never let this happen in a million years. so unless 3 or so teams pass on him we aren't getting him

2. Evan Turner - I like that he can play multiple positions. he looks like the complete package. i also think he will be the most obtainable of the three. He fits into the Jr Sr mold that Bird likes also. He's probably the most NBA ready of them all. I do worry about his 2 cracked vertebrae.

3. Derrick Favors - He is the type of player I would like to see aside Hibbert. He would bring some much needed athleticism to our team. He's low on my list because he seems like he is not NBA ready and could afford a few more years of college ball.

After these 3 players I dont really care. Either trade down or draft the best available player, and trade later.


Also I do not want to draft DeMarcus Cousins at all. Ed Davis would be my dark horse.

[PR07]

I don't like Ed Davis at all. For being so highly touted, he hasn't shown all that much.

[Starkiller]

!. John Wall - Obviously not only does it fill a big need for us but he's also the best player in the draft. Aside form a team talent upgrade it would give us some media attention as well. Look what Lebron did for Cleavland. However David Stern would never let this happen in a million years. so unless 3 or so teams pass on him we aren't getting him

What?

[Dunthreevy]

Draft express did a recent article comparing him to Mike Dunleavy with lateral defense.

Interesting. But I'm not sure I want a guy who can't do anything except lateral defense.

Well the one weakness in Mike Dunleavy's game is his ability to move laterally on defense.

I laughed.

[Miller4ever]

!. John Wall - Obviously not only does it fill a big need for us but he's also the best player in the draft. Aside form a team talent upgrade it would give us some media attention as well. Look what Lebron did for Cleavland. However David Stern would never let this happen in a million years. so unless 3 or so teams pass on him we aren't getting him

What?

There are some who believe that Stern fixes the lottery. I am 75% sure that it's not fixed. Mainly because Milwaukee got the #1 pick recently (Bogut).

[greenway84]

Only twice have teams with the worst record won the lottery. Though the lottery is weighted to give teams with the poorest records the best chance to win, the longshots keep finding a way

Those 2 teams were in the 2 biggest markets. LA and New York. On top of that look at the market size of the teams who won the number 1 pick. All but 5 teams had a very large market. PHI(twice), CHA, MIL(twice), WAS, CLE. Those 5 teams managed to obtain, Andrew Bogut, Tyson Chandler,Allen Iverson, Glenn Robinson, Larry Johnson, Brad Daughtery, and Lebron James. Out of that group Iverson and James are the only great talent. Then when you look at the CLE draft there was no need to keep the hometown boy from staying in CLE when Melo, Wade, Bosh, all got to go to a larger market. Not too mention that they do the lottery draw in a locked room with no cameras, and then come out with the winners. Sounds extremely shady to me yes.

[Dunthreevy]

Only twice have teams with the worst record won the lottery. Though the lottery is weighted to give teams with the poorest records the best chance to win, the longshots keep finding a way

Those 2 teams were in the 2 biggest markets. LA and New York. On top of that look at the market size of the teams who won the number 1 pick. All but 5 teams had a very large market. PHI(twice), CHA, MIL(twice), WAS, CLE. Those 5 teams managed to obtain, Andrew Bogut, Tyson Chandler,Allen Iverson, Glenn Robinson, Larry Johnson, Brad Daughtery, and Lebron James. Out of that group Iverson and James are the only great talent. Then when you look at the CLE draft there was no need to keep the hometown boy from staying in CLE when Melo, Wade, Bosh, all got to go to a larger market. Not too mention that they do the lottery draw in a locked room with no cameras, and then come out with the winners. Sounds extremely shady to me yes.

Tyson Chandler wasn't the #1 pick, he was drafted 2nd by the Clippers and then traded to Chicago for Elton Brand. Also Portland won the #1 pick in 2007 with the 7th worst record, and I wouldn't say they're a large market. Daugherty, Grandmama, and The Big Dog were all VERY good players and all made multiple all-star teams, but had their careers derailed by injuries.

[SportsWorld]

Wall is putting up those numbers on a better team as a freshman. Turner is a junior and battled Derrick Rose when they were both in high school.

[MUpacersSIC]

I think both Wall or Turner could help the Pacers. I think Wall would be anybody's first choice, specially considering we've never had an elite point guard (or one with the potential to be one). But Turner is a do-it-all kind of player and I would welcome him just as much as Wall.

[MUpacersSIC]

I think both Wall or Turner could help the Pacers. I think Wall would be anybody's first choice, specially considering we've never had an elite point guard (or one with the potential to be one). But Turner is a do-it-all kind of player and I would welcome him just as much as Wall.

[DWCP2]

I think both Wall or Turner could help the Pacers. I think Wall would be anybody's first choice, specially considering we've never had an elite point guard (or one with the potential to be one). But Turner is a do-it-all kind of player and I would welcome him just as much as Wall.

My biggest fear going into this draft is to stay ahead of Sacramento, Washington, and Minnesota for the rights to get into the top two picks in the draft, assuring Wall or Turner one will become ours.

Sacramento, Washington, and New Jersey are all in the running for John Wall as is the Pacers.

Sacramento, Washington, and Minnesota are all in the running for Josh Turner.

If Golden State were to manage to get into the top spot I doubt they would be interested in anything but a big having too many wings on their current roster already.

[jowglenn]

Man, if we got the #1 or #2 pick, I might be willing to trade Granger for the other one, so we had both #1 and #2. Wall and Turner both - that's some mighty good youth.

[DWCP2]

Man, if we got the #1 or #2 pick, I might be willing to trade Granger for the other one, so we had both #1 and #2. Wall and Turner both - that's some mighty good youth.

Not a chance.

If the Pacers got Turner and Granger at the wings, I'd say we got another SG/SF wing combo that can be compared to the all time greats guaranteed within five years.

I don't think Bird would take Wall over Turner even if he had the #1 pick in the draft.

High Basketball IQ has been a precedence with Bird and his drafting in each of the last two years. Rush, Hibbert, and Hansborough all three had it when they got drafted.

Only four players, possibly five, have a high basketball IQ in this draft to date, depending on who comes out.

Evan Turner, Greg Monroe, Patrick Patterson, Elias Harris, and Kalin Lucas are the only listed players per their draft profiles that have such a high IQ.

[Miller4ever]

If the Pacers got Turner and Granger at the wings, I'd say we got another SG/SF wing combo that can be compared to the all time greats guaranteed within five years.

Which all-time greats?

MJ/Pippen?

or more like

Paul Pierce/Ray Allen?