Lakers 2010 PG options

[frozt]

I can only imagine how ridiculous the Lakers would be right now if they had Chauncey Billups.

[ALL HAIL]

To All Hail the Lakers will use more than the minimum to improve the PG spot the Lakers will bring in minimum level players to fill out the remaining bench spots like 3rd PF or backup C.

Your more than likely right.

However, I don't think they will use the MLE on one player.

I think their goal is to use Walton and Vujacic to get a guy who is probably overpaid but a "glue-type" feel. Think ... Calderon or Hinrich.

After that, they'll fill in the holes like you said. Think ... Shannon Brown, Bobby Simmons, Damien Wilkins, Mardy Collins, or Jarvis Hayes.

I really like the idea of Calderon off the bench (with Gasol) at PG backing up a Ron Harper-like, veteran-facilitating, defensive role player. Think ... Hughes (minus attitude), Shannon Brown (but more savvy), George Hill or Kendall Gill-type.

Hughes - Calderon - Collins
Bryant - Brown
Bynum - Gasol - Mbenga
Odom - Powell
Artest - Simmons

[warren weel im]

Randy Foye is bigger than the usual PG that's because he is a combo guard. Guess what, that's exactly what we need. He has range and he can score if needed. Best of all, he can handle the ball with relative ease as our PG.

Kyle Lowry also interests me but I won't be offering him the full MLE anytime soon.

[daddyfivestar]

Agree- Foye should be the target. I asked nate33 (on the Wiz board) if he thought they'd match a long term offer starting at 4 mil, he thought No.

portion of MLE there and use the rest on a backup Big?

[Jajwanda]

I'd rather use our 2nd and sign Elonu/Powell for that backup big. Our current group isn't much better than that and there are about five big men to choose from in the early second round.

I would sign Foye and then subsequently sign perhaps Jordan Farmar to be the backup point guard at 2.5m a year. Then I would trade Sasha+2nd for a backup SG/SF on a longer deal, perhaps Trevor Ariza even if he becomes available as I think he will be. It would be like signing Trevor to a 4 year deal for 19m total. Add Acie Law to be the third PG and re-sign Shannon Brown. That would produce a deep bench.

The total budget would not be too ridiculous probably right around what it was this year.

- Foye- 4m
- Farmar- 2.5m
- Brown +2m more
- Elonu 500k
- 2nd rounder 500k

81.9+9.5m= 91.4m total for a significantly improved, younger team.

[KingLakers]

So ur just gonna let FIsher go. If I were the Gm I would use 2nd round pick to get a SG then I would let Powell, DJ, Morrison, Farmar all walk then I would use the MLE to go after either Foye or Felton resign FIsher to 2 yr 4 million dollar deal trade Sasha for a cash or a second round pick and finally replace the departing bench players with Gaffney, Elonu, and maybe one player that plays well during summer leagues, training camp, and preseason.
2010-2011 Lakers Roster
Foye, Fisher
Kobe, Shannon, Rookie
Artest, Luke
Pau, Odom, Gaffney
Bynum, Elonu
And another thing where's all this bring back Ariza talk coming from I understand that Martin pretty much takes Ariza's current position on the Rockets but next season Battier becomes an expiring contract he will be the one thats traded to make room for Ariza and Martin on the roster.

[Jajwanda]

Bringing FIsher back especially with the backup crew is just not a good idea. Either he's a starter or a crunch time shooter. That's about all he has left.

[daddyfivestar]

Fisher is going to retire and take a position with Billy Hunter and the PA in anticipation of the CBA negotiations next year.

[KingLakers]

I think FIsher will be alright on the bench he'll basically be another coach. Kind of like a PG version of Horry in his later years with the Lakers.

[Tekkenlaw]

If we signed Foye I would love to have Fisher be around in some capacity to mentor him.

[warren weel im]

I'd rather use our 2nd and sign Elonu/Powell for that backup big. Our current group isn't much better than that and there are about five big men to choose from in the early second round.

I would sign Foye and then subsequently sign perhaps Jordan Farmar to be the backup point guard at 2.5m a year. Then I would trade Sasha+2nd for a backup SG/SF on a longer deal, perhaps Trevor Ariza even if he becomes available as I think he will be. It would be like signing Trevor to a 4 year deal for 19m total. Add Acie Law to be the third PG and re-sign Shannon Brown. That would produce a deep bench.

The total budget would not be too ridiculous probably right around what it was this year.

- Foye- 4m
- Farmar- 2.5m
- Brown +2m more
- Elonu 500k
- 2nd rounder 500k

81.9+9.5m= 91.4m total for a significantly improved, younger team.

I see it this way: as long as we keep winning, minimum Finals appearance, I think Buss will not hesitate to shell out another 90M payroll for the upcoming season. So barring any unforeseen bump in the road, its safe to assume we'll have nearly the same team and nearly the same payroll for 2010 season.

Ammo's expiring contract will basically represent the MLE. If Foye can be negotiated to a 15/3 [4/5/6] contract then I am all for it, even willing to spend the full MLE on him.

If we have Foye on board, we'll have a team of Foye-Kobe-Artest-Gasol-Bynum. Our bench looks like: Sasha-Walton-Odom.

Assuming Shannon Brown opts out and re-signs, I'd be willing to offer him another 12/3 [3/4/5] along with Farmar's offer of 10.5/3. If Fish is willing to sign the minimum/asst coach then I'd be perfectly fine as well.

[daddyfivestar]

7 options to Consider / Compare:

Used the last 3 seasons for even comparison

Name...... Size....Age on Nov '10.....Mins.....PPG......APG......FG%.....3%.....TOs

Randy Foye (6'4 215): 27yo / 28 mpg / 12.4 ppg / 3.5 apg / 42.1% / 36.9% / 1.8 to
- restricted FA

Ray Felton (6'1 200): 26yo / 35 mpg / 13.8 ppg / 6.5 apg / 42.7% / 32.6% / 2.6 to
- unrestricted FA

Lou Williams (6'1 180): 24yo / 25 mpg / 13.1 ppg / 3.3 apg / 42.6% / 33.0% / 1.7 to
- contract (5.0, 5.18, 5.35)... trade perhaps?

Steve Blake (6'3 175): 30yo / 29 mpg / 8.8 ppg / 4.9 apg / 41.4% / 40.2% / 1.5 to
- unrestricted FA

Chris Duhon (6'1 190): 28yo / 31 mpg / 8.3 ppg / 6.0 apg / 39.2% / 35.2% / 1.8 to
- unrestricted FA

Kirk Hinrich (6'3 190): 29yo / 30 mpg / 10.7 ppg / 5.1 apg / 41.5% / 37.3% / 1.8 to
- contract (9.0, 8.0)... trade perhaps?

Luke Ridnour (6'2 175): 29yo / 25 mpg / 9.1 ppg / 4.5 apg / 41.6% / 34.8% / 1.5 to
- unrestricted FA

Name...... Size....Age on Nov '10.....Mins.....PPG......APG......FG%.....3%.....TOs

Thoughts on which direction LA should go?

[The Skyhook]

If we signed Foye I would love to have Fisher be around in some capacity to mentor him.

You want Fisher to teach him how to blow a fast break?

[daddyfivestar]

Added Hinrich to the list - for comparison

[frozt]

I wouldn't mind Foye but I'd still prefer if we pursued Hinrich.

[nathkost]

Hello.....what about Luke Ridnour, he has played very well this year in only 22 minutes per game.

[daddyfivestar]

7 options to Consider / Compare:

Used the last 3 seasons for even comparison

Name...... Size....Age on Nov '10.....Mins.....PPG......APG......FG%.....3%.....TOs

Randy Foye (6'4 215): 27yo / 28 mpg / 12.4 ppg / 3.5 apg / 42.1% / 36.9% / 1.8 to
- restricted FA

Ray Felton (6'1 200): 26yo / 35 mpg / 13.8 ppg / 6.5 apg / 42.7% / 32.6% / 2.6 to
- unrestricted FA

Lou Williams (6'1 180): 24yo / 25 mpg / 13.1 ppg / 3.3 apg / 42.6% / 33.0% / 1.7 to
- contract (5.0, 5.18, 5.35)... trade perhaps?

Steve Blake (6'3 175): 30yo / 29 mpg / 8.8 ppg / 4.9 apg / 41.4% / 40.2% / 1.5 to
- unrestricted FA

Chris Duhon (6'1 190): 28yo / 31 mpg / 8.3 ppg / 6.0 apg / 39.2% / 35.2% / 1.8 to
- unrestricted FA

Kirk Hinrich (6'3 190): 29yo / 30 mpg / 10.7 ppg / 5.1 apg / 41.5% / 37.3% / 1.8 to
- contract (9.0, 8.0)... trade perhaps?

Luke Ridnour (6'2 175): 29yo / 25 mpg / 9.1 ppg / 4.5 apg / 41.6% / 34.8% / 1.5 to
- unrestricted FA

Name...... Size....Age on Nov '10.....Mins.....PPG......APG......FG%.....3%.....TOs

Thoughts on which direction LA should go?

Added Ridnour to the list. 7 options to compare now.

[supaflash]

Why is Lou Will on there? Terrible for triangle and under contract...

[daddyfivestar]

His name was tossed out by a few in the previous trade thread before it was killed, so I put his numbers in for comparsion. Hinrich is under contract. Does that mean he's not accessible either?

[KingLakers]

If the Bulls fail to get Wade or Joe Johnson then Hinrich will return to the Bulls but if the Bulls get one of those 2 players Hinrich may become available again but its like a 50/50 chance because the Bulls may want to keep him as their sixth man since their entire bench are free agents in the summer.