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Wiretap: Wolves to be a contender as soon as next year 

Post#1 » by Mcfale313 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:56 am

http://timberwolves.realgm.com/articles ... ontenders/

The Minnesota Timberwolves (14-45) are dead last in the Western Conference and have the second worst record in the NBA. Their current stretch of now five losing seasons in a row comes after an excellent run of eight-consecutive playoff appearance with future Hall of Famer Kevin Garnett as the centerpiece.

It’s been a long season for Kurt Rambis in his first year with the club, but success just doesn’t come overnight, especially in the NBA. I spoke with Rambis prior to Minnesota’s 98-92 defeat in Atlanta and asked him about the progress his team has made since he was hired on August 10th.

Rambis: “We’ve made a tremendous amount of progress - individually and as a team. Having all of the young guys that we have, the young point guards that we have, the new system we have put in. There is no holdovers from last year. All of the new faces trying to work together and figure each other out. The lineup changes we’ve gone through. The injuries we’ve had to adjust through. Where we are right now and how we execute offensively and defensively, we are light years ahead of where we started. I am proud of our progress. We obviously have a lot of improving to do. Our direction has to be clear on how to improve and we got to continue to get better.

“We have pockets in games and stretches in games where we play just great on both ends then we have pockets where we are poor. It’s something we have to continue to strive and get better at. One of the key components is that we have to get better at playing hard. I think it’s a learning skill like any other basketball skill. Our guys have to learn how to drive themselves, to push themselves, to do the right basketball things and play as hard as they can out there. They are getting better at it, they just aren’t really good at it.”

Looking at the team’s roster, I can honestly say that the Timberwolves may be closer to competing in the West than the normal fan might expect. Let’s take a look:

Much has been made at Minnesota’s draft in 2009. If you remember, they traded Randy Foye and Mike Miller to Washington for Olesky Pecherov, Etan Thomas, Darius Songalia and the No. 5 pick – giving them back-to-back lottery first round selections.

I said at that time, if I was David Kahn I would use the tandem picks on Stephen Curry and DeMar DeRozan. I loved Curry’s game because he was an explosive scorer and a threat from everywhere on the floor. I felt DeRozan gave them a nice wing to pair with Corey Brewer.

However, Kahn couldn’t pass on the Ricky Rubio buzz despite already having decided to use the fifth pick on another point guard in Jonny Flynn. Not a problem. They are still two potentially great players in this league.

The problem however, is Rubio is not interested in playing for Minnesota. His hype is still at a premium around the league. I think Kahn should trade him because he holds a tremendous amount of value. I’m not saying Rubio won’t be a star one day, but Minnesota can get a lot in return and I think they should give it some serious consideration.

Fast forward to the draft of 2010. Minnesota has an excellent chance at landing the number one pick. If not, they are still likely going to be in the top three. This opens the door to the likes of John Wall, or maybe Evan Turner. If they can draft Wall, I’d make him your future and trade Rubio immediately for more pieces. At this point, I don't think anybody is sure what you could get for Rubio, but it unquestionably would be a good amount of talent.

Minnesota will likely also receive Charlotte’s pick this year because of last season’s Ty Lawson trade on draft day. The pick is top 12 protected, however, so if Charlotte falters the rest of the way, Minnesota will have to wait. But let’s say they don’t.

This means that the Timberwolves will essentially have two lottery picks again to build around the core of Kevin Love and Al Jefferson. While Love and Jefferson have yet to prove they can actually coexist on the same floor, it is still a powerful and feared frontcourt where trading one of them for other valued assets is plausible.

On Wednesday night, Minnesota cut Atlanta’s lead to two mid-way through the fourth quarter. In the final six minutes, they struggled immensely in finding a way to score the ball. They didn’t have the closer that so many good teams in the league do have. I even asked Rambis about this after the game.

“That’s one of the areas that we are lacking on our ball club is that go-to-guy that teams have where you just throw them the ball and they go get you a shot,” Rambis said. “Whether it’s a guy that hits outside shots or takes it to the basket and gets to the free throw line. We are still trying to develop that guy right now, but definitively we don’t have that guy yet.”

They could very well get that guy in this year's draft. Whether it be Wall, Turner or somebody else, the potential is there. Then, send Rubio away and the team gets even stronger. And they still would have Charlotte’s pick at 13 or 14.

They may be in last place but there is a future in Minnesota. Don’t believe me? Just take a look at Oklahoma City (Durant), and Atlanta (Johnson) and see what happened as soon as they got their go-to-guy.


Im so excited about this, I hope this go-to guy theory works all the time
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Re: Wiretap: Wolves to be a contender as soon as next year 

Post#2 » by Basti » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:14 am

I'd love to see that happen but I'm very very skeptical especially if half of the team is gone after this season is over. there will be a lot new faces who are not familiar with our offensive schemes and it will probably take them a while to build chemistry.
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Post#3 » by IAmTheTruth » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:24 am

Barring a miracle, next season we will finish in the back half of the lottery. Possibly worse. After next season, you will start to see the real improvement. By 2012 we will be in the playoffs.
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Post#4 » by cpfsf » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:51 pm

I'm not encouraged by the fact that the Timberwolves slashed season prices in half.
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Re: Wiretap: Wolves to be a contender as soon as next year 

Post#5 » by diggity_88 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:53 pm

Well they have the pieces... just gotta make sure they do the right moves with them.
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Post#6 » by PeeDee » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:10 pm

This is a poor article. All it does is puke up NY media driven BS and put an optimistic spin on it.

The problem however, is Rubio is not interested in playing for Minnesota.

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Minnesota will likely also receive Charlotte’s pick this year because of last season’s Ty Lawson trade on draft day. The pick is top 12 protected, however, so if Charlotte falters the rest of the way, Minnesota will have to wait. But let’s say they don’t.

This means that the Timberwolves will essentially have two lottery picks again...


Sigh. There is virtually no chance that the Wolves will end up with 2 lottery picks unless they trade for another one.
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Post#7 » by john2jer » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:11 pm

I had to shut my computer down after reading that article last night. The errors in it annoyed me beyond belief.

1. Rubio was drafted 5th, not 6th. Why is that such a common error by these clowns?
2. Rubio has never said he doesn't want to be in Minnesota, in fact his last statements on the subject he specifically said he was excited to play for the Wolves.
3. Likely, the only way the Wolves get the Charlotte pick is if they make the play-offs. New Orleans, Memphis, and Houston all have better records than the Bobcats, and aren't in the play-offs as of right now. Meaning that would push the Bobcats down to 11th, within the protected range.
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Post#8 » by karch34 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:11 pm

I think we'll be improved as the key players currently on the roster will have more familiarity with each other & the system, plus our picks and FA room will help. Improved? Yes. To be a contender a lot would have to break right, but like diggity said if they make the right moves it's possible.
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Post#9 » by wolves_fan_82au » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:20 pm

imo we have the pieces to help us get 2 stars

1st we could get in free agency
2nd we could get via trade in which we could include Jefferson/3 1sts/Rubio/Sessions or Flynn

adding the 2 stars with Love could get us into the playoffs depending on of course who the 2 stars we get are
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Post#10 » by wildvikeswolves » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:24 pm

i know it was an articlepraising out future but man it pisses me off when all these peopel with no knowledge of the situation say that Rubio is not interested in palying for us
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Post#11 » by GopherIt! » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:38 pm

what makes this even worse is it is a RealGM article.

Why the hell don't Howard Mass or C. Reina (or whoever is in charge) come by the Wolves board and inquire about writers looking for writing opportunities vs giving the job to a 22 year old from Emory (Emory? Really?) who clearly knows little about the Wolves or does that involve too much common sense?
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Post#12 » by moss_is_1 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:11 pm

I agree that we could be a whole lot better next year with a better cast of wing players. We've seen how well this team can do when we have Gomes, Brewer, or Flynn get hot and score 20 points, if we can find a stud wing that can do that every game then we'll be right there.
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Post#13 » by dunkonu21 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:26 pm

This guy doesn't know the definition of contender.

Under his logic Evan Turner=Championship.

Pretty sure it's gonna be A LOT tougher than that.
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Post#14 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:26 pm

GopherIt! wrote:what makes this even worse is it is a RealGM article.

Why the hell don't Howard Mass or C. Reina (or whoever is in charge) come by the Wolves board and inquire about writers looking for writing opportunities vs giving the job to a 22 year old from Emory (Emory? Really?) who clearly knows little about the Wolves or does that involve too much common sense?


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Post#15 » by GopherIt! » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:07 pm

nice. I'll have to think of some ideas. keep drinking though, it's good for the hypothalamus

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Post#16 » by Breakdown777 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:34 am

And here I thought this article was going to be worthwhile.

Even if this guys dream scenario happened, we wouldn't be a contender, we'd be a playoff team (probably a 7 or 8 seed). I also liked how he didn't mention the Utah pick or Pekovic.

I think that this scenario could play out like
Wolves draft 1 (wall), 15 (alabi), and 26 (don't care)
Trade Rubio for kevin martin/iggy/ eric gordon (let's go with eric gordon/jordan/craig smith)
Sign pek

Wall/Flynn/sessions
Eric Gordon/Brewer/Ellington
Gomes/Brewer/UTH pick
Al/Love/Craig
Pek/Jordan /Hollins

maybe a 7 seed.
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Post#17 » by southern wolf » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:25 am

The article may be flawed, but at least the writer is positive and optimistic. Any Wolves based article that doesn't insinuate that David Kahn is running an abomination of a franchise is a breath of fresh air.
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Post#18 » by shangrila » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:06 am

southern wolf wrote:The article may be flawed, but at least the writer is positive and optimistic. Any Wolves based article that doesn't insinuate that David Kahn is running an abomination of a franchise is a breath of fresh air.

True. I even got into an arguement with a guy at hoopshype who claimed the Milicic deal was a terrible deal because something like "they're not a playoff team so why bother trading for him"
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Post#19 » by dunkonu21 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:57 am

Breakdown777 wrote:Trade Rubio for kevin martin/iggy/ eric gordon (let's go with eric gordon/jordan/craig smith)


I swear, that is the FIRST trade proposal I've ever heard since the 2009 draft that I would actually do involving Rubecube.
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Post#20 » by Foye » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:40 am

Breakdown777 wrote:And here I thought this article was going to be worthwhile.

Even if this guys dream scenario happened, we wouldn't be a contender, we'd be a playoff team (probably a 7 or 8 seed). I also liked how he didn't mention the Utah pick or Pekovic.

I think that this scenario could play out like
Wolves draft 1 (wall), 15 (alabi), and 26 (don't care)
Trade Rubio for kevin martin/iggy/ eric gordon (let's go with eric gordon/jordan/craig smith)
Sign pek

Wall/Flynn/sessions
Eric Gordon/Brewer/Ellington
Gomes/Brewer/UTH pick
Al/Love/Craig
Pek/Jordan /Hollins

maybe a 7 seed.


You are my man!

I'm on the Alabi bandwagon with the CHA pick.

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