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Trading Brooks would you? 

Post#1 » by wadero » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:52 pm

I have been watching the Rockets at lot this year and it seems to me that Brooks is more of a scoring Guard that a Point Guard. With us getting Martin and the team should be pushing him to be our scoring guard. The team seems to play better with Lowry at the PG. So the question I have would you deal Brooks if we could move Lowry to the Starting PG and say get a Bosh or picks and young player? I know Portland would love to get him being from Oregon they may do a sign and trade for one of there young Players. Just wanted to get everyones thoughts.
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Post#2 » by KiDdFrESh » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:47 pm

I really like what AB brings to this team. But I often wonder what it would be like if Aaron was the one missing games and Lowry was starting in his place. I think Lowry is much more important to the Rockets success than Brooks is. And I also think that with the addition of Martin and Yao coming back next year that our starting lineup would benifit more with Lowry.

I hope Brooks is part of a sign and trade in the offseason for Bosh.
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Post#3 » by PocketRockets » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:29 pm

Lowry's shot is horrendous. Teams would just double Yao, off lowry, and dare him to shoot all game. It'd be the second coming of Rafer alston. With that said, Brooks sucks at passing, therefore Yao wouldn't have the ball in the first place. =/

We need AB against teams like the lakers b/c quick point guards kill teams like that. Lowry brings the defense against teams with bigger PGs. I think the versatility of that is what Adelman wants. Similar to Scolandry in the past, shame we wanted Martin that bad.
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Post#4 » by DreamShook34 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:30 pm

AB and Lowry come as a tandem. Them together are a beastly combination. I remember when AB was hurt and Lowry got the majority of the minutes(i think it was for 1 game).. Initially it was great then because of Lowry's lack of a mid/long range jumper everyone doubled off of him and the offense became stagnant.. Ab and Lowry bring a dynamic most teams dont have: 2 point guards that effectively impact the game in different ways at starter type levels.. There is no drop off @ the PG spot when they are subbed in for one another.. Ab needs Lowry and Lowry needs AB!

AB: Scoring, Speed, consistent 3point shot
Lowry: Assists, Drawing fouls, Offensive rebounds, Uptempo Basketball, Defense

AB needs to start so he can get his groove set the tempo. Lowry needs to come off the bench to lift the tempo even more. AB/Lowry that is our PG they have a symbiotic relationship to this team.. I'm still surprised that some Rockets fans still haven't realized this.. You guys still think that we can unload one of these guys and just go out and get another PG starter/bench of their caliber anywhere.. It doesn't work like that..

Lowry will come back and all will be fine..
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Post#5 » by rocketsballin » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:32 pm

i never thought brooks was a legit starting point guard, UNLESS there was a sg or sf that could be a legit help with playmaking, like tmac/hedo/ANDRE IGUODALA!!!!!! but w/ the current roster he's the 2nd best playmaker after lowry, imo thats bad for us as you can tell by the way we're playing w/o lowry.

i dont mind tradig brooks but we need something real good in return. a true point guard, chris bosh, something real good

i think lowry should be starting, and maybe split minutes w/ brooks, both play 28min or something, not brooks with 35min
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Post#6 » by DreamShook34 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:38 pm

roxfashoballin wrote:
split minutes w/ brooks, both play 28min or something, not brooks with 35min


This is what makes us successful CURRENTLY.. Ab doesn't play 35 unless he has to (injury) or it is in tandem with Lowry.. have you guys not been watching the games? Ab doesn't play 35 minutes alone exclusively when lowry is healthy.. Adelman knows Ab's tenancies but he also knows his strengths are invaluable.. Aldeman will put in Lowry if AB gets TO happy. Adelman will take out Lowry as well when his lack of scoring impacts the team negatively.. Adelman will put them both in for mind numbing speed..
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Post#7 » by rocketsballin » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:45 pm

forgot to say brooks should be the 6th man, scoring spark off the bench, at least for next season . w/ yao/scola/martin in the starting lineup, there's enough offense already and we can have shane focus on defense and lowry focus on defense and running the offense. brooks as a 6th man will make sure the bench doesnt fall back on offense . daam i hope he doesnt start for us next year
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Post#8 » by grond » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:24 am

Sure. I'd trade anyone given: Team - player traded away + assets traded for > Current team.

I already said it in the trade thread but given our current and _projected_ personnel (ie Yao) for next season, I'd say Brooks is increasingly looking like the odd man out. Instant offense role off the bench might be best, but might hurt his feelings (and thus his output). So maybe a trade is best, especially if it nets us a Bosh or whoever.

DreamShook34, your point about Lowry/Brooks being perfect compliments is taken. But the difference I think is that Lowry's weaknesses are more easily correctable with practice and off-season work, whereas Brooks' weaknesses are of the ingrained-early variety.
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Post#9 » by Aaron Brooks » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:30 am

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Post#10 » by Moreyball » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:39 am

I would trade him in a package for CP3 or Deron or if we landed John Wall in the lottery! :)
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Post#11 » by kam_soluusar » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:36 am

Only if it get's Landry back.

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Post#12 » by MaxRider » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:55 am

just trade everyone that don't fit adelman's system (including yao)
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Post#13 » by Joseph17 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:21 am

I think the Rockets would be good with a pass first defensive guard who is capable of hitting the open 3. I like Brooks' game a lot, but the Rockets already have a scoring sg. I really don't see the point of having a scoring pg as well. Is Lowry really that bad at shooting? If he isn't, you might as well just start him next year.
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Post#14 » by YaoZaii » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:32 am

i like our pg combo actually but if someone of real substance like wade or bosh, i will not hesistate.

as for which one i prefer, lowry is the guy i feel safer at pg. brooks seems a bit too TO-happy too many times.
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Post#15 » by rocketsballin » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:10 am

with the offensive weapons on this team...yao/martin/scola/arzia, i'd say brooks is expendable. we also have shane, cbud, lowry, andersen, jj who help a bit w/ offense. if brooks is to be traded, it has to be for all star-like offensive talent. i would prefer a true pg, dont mind something else. but he cannot be traded for role players and expiring, thats just stupid. of corse it might be a packaged trade than straigt up, so we'll lose other players but for the most part the core will stay intact.
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Post#16 » by PocketRockets » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:42 pm

If Martin actually becomes his old self and Yao also. A lot of players on this team would be expendable. But Yao has a bad track record and Martin only showing signs of his former self, it's way too early to be talking about trading brooks. What if Yao comes back with game weaker than Greg Oden? =/
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Post#17 » by MigrainePatrol » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:21 pm

Honestly Brooks is special and it showed in the series against the Lakers. If we could net a 4 like Carlos Boozer, Brooks is more than expendable. In fact Carlos Boozer is the best free-agent forward come the end of this season. >>>> than Amare and any other PF available. IMO the best in the league and > Tim Duncan is at the moment..
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Post#18 » by Joseph17 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:44 pm

^Having Boozer and Yao in the same frontcourt is a bit redundant imo. If Yao returns to his old self, you would basically have two scoring bigs with a good mid-range game. It's not like Boozer plays good defense and does other things besides score and rebound. If Martin and Yao return to their old form, this team has enough scoring to get far in the playoffs. I would probably spend the off-season getting defensive specialists, a true pg, and more role players like Shane Battier.
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Post#19 » by Iggyemu » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:52 pm

Yes. Can't defend, can't playmake...can really only score and that he doesn't even do consistently. He is the 2nd best player on a bad team....lets not get carried away with his value to this team.
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Post#20 » by Guy986 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:55 pm

joeyyowee wrote:^Having Boozer and Yao in the same frontcourt is a bit redundant imo. If Yao returns to his old self, you would basically have two scoring bigs with a good mid-range game. It's not like Boozer plays good defense and does other things besides score and rebound. If Martin and Yao return to their old form, this team has enough scoring to get far in the playoffs. I would probably spend the off-season getting defensive specialists, a true pg, and more role players like Shane Battier.


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